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      Re: World Cup 2018 Qualifiers:
      Reply #200: Oct 12, 2017 09:12:51 am
      The US missing the World Cup just highlights how backward our soccer program is in this country. No good youth setup, no good professional setup, we let everything ride on Pulisic and he almost was able to carry an entire country at age 19. And Bruce Arena? Really? We can’t hire a better manager than Bruce Arena?

      US deserved to miss out. A bad coach picking mostly bad players and using bad tactics. Utterly garbage.

      What's the capacity?
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      Reply #201: Oct 12, 2017 10:00:25 am
      Congratulations Peru, utterly deserve it. Got some good results in this campaign against some of the teams rated as best teams in the world. England won't get them,  since even though Peru will still be slightly above us in the ratings, they are still a few places from being seeded in pot 1, so they'll be in pot two with us.

      I remember when Iceland used to be rubbish, when we thrashed them 5-1, but now they knocked us out of Euro and won their world cup qualification group... and Holland and Chile not qualifying...
      I suspect these power shifts to be temporary.

      I think Argentina could win it all next year, often it is the great nations that struggled to qualify that come out winners.
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      Reply #202: Oct 12, 2017 11:06:21 am
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      Reply #203: Oct 12, 2017 12:11:47 pm
      Laughing at aaron johannsen who opted to play for the usa instead of Iceland as he wanted to play at the world cup
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      Reply #204: Oct 12, 2017 05:11:27 pm
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      Reply #205: Oct 13, 2017 01:55:32 pm
      Really? :D So Panama are a great team then? The winner between Peru and New Zealand will be a cracking side?

      Not even Peruvians - you know, people who actually watch Peru on a regular basis - think their team is more talented than Chile or even Paraguay. Based on game results only, Peru actually would've finished 7th, behind Chile and Paraguay - kind of where their level of talent is in this continent, ahead of Ecuador (debatable), Bolivia and Venezuela only. It was thanks to 3 points they received from Bolivia due to an irregular player that they ended up in 5th. But oh well, I wouldn't expect you to know that.

      But anyway, that's football: the talented team not always win. Fascinating, isn't it? Or do you think Iceland has more talent than England? Than Holland? Haha, give me a break. You're desperate to save face because I've constantly called you on your bullshit.

      I know you speak from personal experience.

      I have a feeling you also don't know what "statistical certainty" actually means. It wouldn't be a surprise.

      My rationale was based on watching them, and watching many of their players on a regular basis. Two of them I watched live, and often - they play for Flamengo. (Their names are Paolo Guerrero and Miguel Trauco, in case you feel like doing a scouting report on them via google and wikipedia.) The fact Peru don't have players in the Champions League is only an indicative of how poor they actually are, not an argument in itself. I know a simple minded individual like yourself might struggle to understand it.

      Just the fact you need to do "a bit of research" to find out about results from a major international football competition says a lot about your "knowledge". Now please give us your scouting report on Guilherme Arana? Or tell us how much of an issue Raheem Sterling's red cards are?

      As for being bitter - well, you couldn't possibly be more wrong (again). I was rooting for Peru. Going out in group stage in Copa America was the best thing that could possibly have happened to Brazil - it meant we got rid of Dunga and hired a fantastic coach in Tite.

      Don't believe me? That's my post from the time of the competition (I actually watched it as well, I didn't need "a bit of research"):

      Finally...

      I rest my case.

      You may try as hard as you want mate, you'll always come out as an idiot if you try to pretend you know more than you do.

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      Reply #206: Oct 13, 2017 05:44:25 pm
      Initially the WCQ against T&T literally made me sick. I HATE Bruce Arena.  Thought his tactics were sh*t and schemes were sh*t. The firing of klingsmam wad a mistake. But, to be fair with the exception of Pulisic the players were complete sh*t. Howard should be retired. The players dont like Arena and it showed. But, its a blessing. The USMNT Need to completely gut the administration.
      This team is way better than our play. I hope wr start fresh, fire every coach and get a World class coach to rebuild.
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      Reply #207: Oct 13, 2017 10:12:39 pm
      Really? :D So Panama are a great team then? The winner between Peru and New Zealand will be a cracking side?

      Not even Peruvians - you know, people who actually watch Peru on a regular basis - think their team is more talented than Chile or even Paraguay. Based on game results only, Peru actually would've finished 7th, behind Chile and Paraguay - kind of where their level of talent is in this continent, ahead of Ecuador (debatable), Bolivia and Venezuela only. It was thanks to 3 points they received from Bolivia due to an irregular player that they ended up in 5th. But oh well, I wouldn't expect you to know that.

      But anyway, that's football: the talented team not always win. Fascinating, isn't it? Or do you think Iceland has more talent than England? Than Holland? Haha, give me a break. You're desperate to save face because I've constantly called you on your bullshit.

      I know you speak from personal experience.

      I have a feeling you also don't know what "statistical certainty" actually means. It wouldn't be a surprise.

      My rationale was based on watching them, and watching many of their players on a regular basis. Two of them I watched live, and often - they play for Flamengo. (Their names are Paolo Guerrero and Miguel Trauco, in case you feel like doing a scouting report on them via google and wikipedia.) The fact Peru don't have players in the Champions League is only an indicative of how poor they actually are, not an argument in itself. I know a simple minded individual like yourself might struggle to understand it.

      Just the fact you need to do "a bit of research" to find out about results from a major international football competition says a lot about your "knowledge". Now please give us your scouting report on Guilherme Arana? Or tell us how much of an issue Raheem Sterling's red cards are?

      As for being bitter - well, you couldn't possibly be more wrong (again). I was rooting for Peru. Going out in group stage in Copa America was the best thing that could possibly have happened to Brazil - it meant we got rid of Dunga and hired a fantastic coach in Tite.

      Don't believe me? That's my post from the time of the competition (I actually watched it as well, I didn't need "a bit of research"):

      Finally...

      I rest my case.

      You may try as hard as you want mate, you'll always come out as an idiot if you try to pretend you know more than you do.
      I've done a massive U turn, Peru national team are rubbish. You were right all along.
      It is just pure luck they did great in qualification and got results against some of the best teams in the world.
      FIFA rankings don't mean anything, just because they are 12th and will probably be 10th in next months update means nothing.
      You know what means something? Your testimony, not facts. Case rested. You win and I accept defeat.
      Afterall, you watched those games with Peru in so that means much more than the results.
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      Reply #208: Oct 14, 2017 03:17:52 am
      Well actually Riba, FIFA rankings mean sh*t. For example, Costa Rica is 20-22 and have been between 15-24 (or something like that) since the last WC, finished the WC 8th and no, Costa Rica was not the 8th bet team in the world as it is not the 22nd now so you shouldn't rate Peru based on that, nor a single game in the Copa America.

      Peru are not that great to be honest, they almost lost to Colombia in Peru, and would have if it hadn't been for Ospina (who is sh*t by the way). Good for them that they qualified, the same for Panama, but they were not the best teams, for example Chile is better than Peru and did not qualify, the same way the US are better than Panama (and both are way up in the rankings).
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      Reply #209: Oct 14, 2017 12:34:25 pm
      Well actually Riba, FIFA rankings mean sh*t. For example, Costa Rica is 20-22 and have been between 15-24 (or something like that) since the last WC, finished the WC 8th and no, Costa Rica was not the 8th bet team in the world as it is not the 22nd now so you shouldn't rate Peru based on that, nor a single game in the Copa America.

      Peru are not that great to be honest, they almost lost to Colombia in Peru, and would have if it hadn't been for Ospina (who is sh*t by the way). Good for them that they qualified, the same for Panama, but they were not the best teams, for example Chile is better than Peru and did not qualify, the same way the US are better than Panama (and both are way up in the rankings).
      this is quite sensible. I agree Peru aren't as good as fifa rankings make out, but the rankings do give some indications. I understand that they aren't that great, but they aren't that terrible either. Whilst they won't win anything anytime soon, it's a bit over the top to call them rubbish. I'd say Belarus, Luxembourg,  San Marino, Gibraltar ... Etc rubbish teams. France 0 - 0 Luxembourg was shocking, Peru 0 - 0 Argentina is disappointing for Argentina but not out of the ordinary. Reason I was defending Peru was because whilst not great, they aren't terrible. If they were, Chile, who probably are better, would be in the world cup.
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      Reply #210: Oct 14, 2017 11:27:43 pm
      Diego called out Rib, Rib got hurt feelings so he’s trying to one up Diego. Peru sucks balls but hey at least they qualified...my country did not. Did I miss anything else?
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      Reply #211: Oct 15, 2017 04:17:02 am
      It is just pure luck they did great in qualification and got results against some of the best teams in the world.

      Yeah, because that's exactly what I said... :roll: grow up (and watch some football)

      Afterall, you watched those games with Peru in so that means much more than the results.

      You seem obsessed with results (perhaps because that's pretty much the only information you have on Peru) but keep ignoring that, based on match results only, Peru would be 7th.

      If they were, Chile, who probably are better, would be in the world cup.

      Chile would indeed be playing New Zealand if they hadn't initiated a complaint about Bolivia using an irregular player during the competition.

      You've now posted 11 times about Peru, a team you've admittedly never watched in your life. :D
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      Reply #212: Oct 15, 2017 04:21:17 am
      Diego called out Rib, Rib got hurt feelings so he’s trying to one up Diego. Peru sucks balls but hey at least they qualified...my country did not. Did I miss anything else?

      Not really!

      Except that Peru haven't qualified yet, but hopefully they will by beating New Zealand.
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      Reply #213: Oct 15, 2017 10:01:46 am
      Chile would indeed be playing New Zealand if they hadn't initiated a complaint about Bolivia using an irregular player during the competition.
      Chile lost to Bolivia and they also had a match declared 3-0 victory for Bolivia fielding an ineligible player.

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      Reply #214: Oct 15, 2017 02:36:34 pm
      Chile lost to Bolivia and they also had a match declared 3-0 victory for Bolivia fielding an ineligible player.

      Erm... I know.
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      Reply #215: Oct 15, 2017 05:09:28 pm
      I'm done with this whole argument. It's boring.
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      Reply #216: Oct 15, 2017 05:24:06 pm
      I'm done with this whole argument. It's boring.

      Tell us about it...
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      Reply #217: Oct 16, 2017 01:48:15 am
      I'm done with this whole argument. It's boring.

      ;D
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      Reply #218: Oct 16, 2017 08:27:58 am
      Only just saw those stadium expansions on page 5 of this thread! Madness!
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      Reply #219: Nov 10, 2017 02:54:21 am
      Anyone see the penalty awarded to Switzerland today? Shockingly unfair to Northern Ireland, especially given how important the match was.

      Still, Switzerland were so much better in this game, it wouldn't seem fair for the home team to get a result. Is that they way they played to get to the playoff (Northern Ireland I mean)?

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      Reply #220: Nov 11, 2017 05:06:04 pm
      Can't decide if i wanna go to the pub for Denmark v Ireland later,might be a few plastic irish out.
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      Reply #221: Nov 11, 2017 11:56:07 pm
      Only just saw those stadium expansions on page 5 of this thread! Madness!

      Horrendous.
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      Reply #222: Nov 12, 2017 12:09:20 am
      Can't decide if i wanna go to the pub for Denmark v Ireland later,might be a few plastic irish out.

      At least in the pub you'll have had some beer. I watched it at home.
      Decent result away from home for TBIG, Denmark maybe deserved to scrap a win, just, but couldn't manage it.
      As a football match, it was carnage, long balls, set pieces, pratically no passages of play ... but guess if you want flowing football, kick a ball into a river.  Its about qualifying, sets it up for a big night on Tuesday...
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      Reply #223: Nov 13, 2017 09:44:38 pm
      Sweden through and showed a masterclass in bus parking! Crazy how Insigne was ignored too.
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      Reply #224: Nov 13, 2017 10:08:06 pm
      Saw most of the second half, I thought we had trouble breaking down bus parkers!!
      Sweden defended well, but thought Italy really lacked any quality up front, as well as good service from the back.
      First time not at a WC for over 50 years or something.

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