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      Re: World Cup 2018 Qualifiers:
      Reply #240: Nov 15, 2017 10:03:30 am
      Gutted after last night :( To beat Wales, draw in Denmark, go 1 up at home ... and loose 5 goals ... not like Ireland to do that.

      Don't think it was any one factor.

      How to explain that essentially the 'same team/players', and a similar game plan (first half), that got a draw away managed to be so open in the return?! Imho too many players had below par games, Ward, Hendrik, Meyler, Brady didn't play as well as they can. Bigger pitch/more space suited them better maybe. And individual errors obviously - first was o.g.,  2nd Ward gave the ball away, 4 Ward again, 5th ... ah, it was a complete shambles well before McClean brought the guy down for the peno.

      Thought O'Neill went too far bringing McGeady on at HT. Would have left Arter and Meyler on, brought off Ward, put Brady back to LB, and had Wes in the middle.
      In saying that, Wes had little impact (McGeady either) as Denmark played the ball round us like a bunch of kids. It was painful. Just had to sit and watch, helpless, like watching a ship sinking.

      Shane Long came on later ... maybe should have started - but then again hasn't scored for 29 games or something, and summed his night/campaign up when put thro and HAS to score (think it was 4-1 at that stage), just lift it over the advancing keeper already going to ground, but he puts it over the bar.  I nearly kicked the sh*t out of the chair.

      Worrying for the future. No quality coming thro. Players getting older. Not going to criticise the players particularly, thought they were completely outclassed. Eriksen the sh*t was clinical as f**k. Can debate formations etc. but think no matter how we juggled things we don't beat the Danes on the night, they were really up for it, had more quality, played better, and deserved to go thro. Wasn't even close.

      The banana has been deflated ...
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      Re: World Cup 2018 Qualifiers:
      Reply #241: Nov 15, 2017 11:04:03 am
      For absolutely the last time this winter I will say well done Australia
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      Re: World Cup 2018 Qualifiers:
      Reply #242: Nov 15, 2017 11:31:02 am
      Gutted after last night :( To beat Wales, draw in Denmark, go 1 up at home ... and loose 5 goals ... not like Ireland to do that.

      Don't think it was any one factor.

      How to explain that essentially the 'same team/players', and a similar game plan (first half), that got a draw away managed to be so open in the return?! Imho too many players had below par games, Ward, Hendrik, Meyler, Brady didn't play as well as they can. Bigger pitch/more space suited them better maybe. And individual errors obviously - first was o.g.,  2nd Ward gave the ball away, 4 Ward again, 5th ... ah, it was a complete shambles well before McClean brought the guy down for the peno.

      Thought O'Neill went too far bringing McGeady on at HT. Would have left Arter and Meyler on, brought off Ward, put Brady back to LB, and had Wes in the middle.
      In saying that, Wes had little impact (McGeady either) as Denmark played the ball round us like a bunch of kids. It was painful. Just had to sit and watch, helpless, like watching a ship sinking.

      Shane Long came on later ... maybe should have started - but then again hasn't scored for 29 games or something, and summed his night/campaign up when put thro and HAS to score (think it was 4-1 at that stage), just lift it over the advancing keeper already going to ground, but he puts it over the bar.  I nearly kicked the sh*t out of the chair.

      Worrying for the future. No quality coming thro. Players getting older. Not going to criticise the players particularly, thought they were completely outclassed. Eriksen the sh*t was clinical as f**k. Can debate formations etc. but think no matter how we juggled things we don't beat the Danes on the night, they were really up for it, had more quality, played better, and deserved to go thro. Wasn't even close.

      The banana has been deflated ...


      I think North and South both did well getting to play-offs.

      The North were very unlucky and the Republic just ran outta legs / luck. They were playing a better and more talented team and the boughs just burst eventually.

      Both managers massively over-achieving.

      Would have either guy for Scotland.......if they’re feeling masochistic ;)
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      Re: World Cup 2018 Qualifiers:
      Reply #243: Nov 15, 2017 12:26:45 pm
      At 1-0 Ireland should have shut it down.

      It was terrible to watch, and when the team had to open up to chase a goal it got worse.
      The failings were basic though.

      Too many players caught in the headlights.
      I reran the goals with my kid to show him things I try to coach out of him.

      - Getting caught in no-mans land. Just marking space. Standing around.
      - Freezing. Not running to the player with the ball, and not marking the players that are in a position to receive it.
      - Players not dropping to the shoulder of an opponent and so allowing other players to push on to somebody else.
      - One player on his own attempting to defend against two.
      - Marking a player but being too far away from them to impact the play when they get it.
      - Getting caught the wrong side of the player when the ball is played in.

      Ireland did it all.
      If you wanted to see every defensive part of the game done wrong then last night it was there to be seen.
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      Re: World Cup 2018 Qualifiers:
      Reply #244: Nov 15, 2017 12:55:40 pm
      At 1-0 Ireland should have shut it down.

      I heard the scoreline but only realised this morning that Ireland had taken the lead.  When you see a 5-1 scoreline you don't usually expect that had happened.  Makes it much worse that.

      Congratulation to Penaltyalia for winning this morning to make them the 31st side heading to next years World Cup.  I've got no idea who is going to finish runners up to Russia but I'd give Germany a strong chance.  Seem to know when to put the proper shift on.

      For absolutely the last time this winter I will say well done Australia

      A very bold statement that!
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      Reply #245: Nov 15, 2017 03:11:37 pm
      I heard the scoreline but only realised this morning that Ireland had taken the lead.  When you see a 5-1 scoreline you don't usually expect that had happened.  Makes it much worse that.

      Dream start.
      Would expect Ireland to at least revert to type and defend deep.
      Nope.
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      Re: World Cup 2018 Qualifiers:
      Reply #246: Nov 15, 2017 05:19:37 pm
      The problem was that Ireland were very open and chasing the game doesn't really suit them or o'neill and they were very exposed. Probably means the joys of roy keane as a pundit

      They were leading, they had no reason to end up having to chase the game, they just had to shut up shop and stick everyone behind the ball and kill all momentum in the game. Some of them goals were such bad defending, the one that crept in at the post was a shocker.
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      Reply #247: Nov 15, 2017 05:27:39 pm
      I heard the scoreline but only realised this morning that Ireland had taken the lead.  When you see a 5-1 scoreline you don't usually expect that had happened.  Makes it much worse that.

      Congratulation to Penaltyalia for winning this morning to make them the 31st side heading to next years World Cup.  I've got no idea who is going to finish runners up to Russia but I'd give Germany a strong chance.  Seem to know when to put the proper shift on.

      A very bold statement that!

      Pretty confident that whatever it brings compliments won't be one of them even if they are going to the ashes and rl world cup
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      Reply #248: Nov 16, 2017 05:25:14 am
      The last jigsaw is in place. Peru, last team to qualify.
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      Re: World Cup 2018 Qualifiers:
      Reply #249: Nov 16, 2017 07:57:15 am
      All 32 teams then. Happy with that. My two are in.

      Also Peru, so I guess Rip was right then after all.
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      Reply #250: Nov 17, 2017 06:31:20 pm
      I guess Rip was right then after all

      About what? :D

      So strange to see the likes of Italy and Netherlands missing out, but great that countries such as Peru, Iceland, Panama, Egypt etc have qualified for the first time if not ever, then in quite a long time.
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      Re: World Cup 2018 Qualifiers:
      Reply #251: Nov 17, 2017 10:16:27 pm
      At least in the pub you'll have had some beer. I watched it at home.
      Decent result away from home for TBIG, Denmark maybe deserved to scrap a win, just, but couldn't manage it.
      As a football match, it was carnage, long balls, set pieces, pratically no passages of play ... but guess if you want flowing football, kick a ball into a river.  Its about qualifying, sets it up for a big night on Tuesday...

      I stayed home, went out after,dodged a bullet cos the bartender told me there were 30 odd chuckleheads there at 2 p.m doing a pajama pub crawl.Have to say did smile when i saw the 5-1 second leg score, ouch.Bars are gonna take a hit this summer,no irish,yanks,italians.
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      Reply #252: Nov 18, 2017 12:41:15 am
      About what? :D

      So strange to see the likes of Italy and Netherlands missing out, but great that countries such as Peru, Iceland, Panama, Egypt etc have qualified for the first time if not ever, then in quite a long time.


      Getting used to seeing Holland miss out, failed to make the last few major tournaments haven't they?

      Would have liked to see Malta in there but that was never going to happen.
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      Re: World Cup 2018 Qualifiers:
      Reply #253: Nov 30, 2017 02:54:25 pm
      All done & the draw is tomorrow, (Friday).

      Qualifiers finished as is this thread.

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