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      Q. In July 06 we asked if Pennant was a good signing. 90% of you said Yes. So, was Pennant a good signing?

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      Jermaine Pennant (Winger)

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      Re: Portsmouth agree fee for Pennant but...
      Reply #345: Jan 24, 2009 06:26:45 pm
      Apparently he reckons half the players at Liverpool don't understand him.

      Fingers crossed it's the half of the players that don't get a game.

      To be honest after the knifing he has already given Rafa I would be quite happy for LFC to cancel the loan agreement and bring him back now.  I'd make him do 15 hour days of training and cleaning the rest of the players boots.

      I'm not joking either.

      He forgets that he IS actually a Liverpool player.
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      Reply #346: Jan 24, 2009 06:28:56 pm
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      I found it strange that I had been linked with a move to both Real Madrid and AC Milan, but couldn't even get on the Liverpool bench.

      Don't be baffled. Both AC Milan and Real Madrid aren't title contenders. Liverpool are.
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      Reply #347: Jan 24, 2009 06:57:38 pm
      ^^^^

      We see the heart of the problem in that simple statement. Pennant thinks he has nothing to prove, that he is a world class player that could walk into any team in the world without having to put in the time in the training.

      Perhaps when he was younger, with the right attitude and investment on his part, this could have been the case. As it is, he has an enormous ego that far outweighs his talents. What's sad is that he hasn't learned anything from the company he has had at Liverpool either - in Gerrard, Hyypia, Torres and many others we have some of the most serious players who put in a tremendous effort daily in training to maintain their form and talent, why he couldn't follow in these footsteps I don't know.

      As I've said before, Pennant's career has been, and will most likely remain, an enormous waste.
      « Last Edit: Jan 24, 2009 07:19:51 pm by ayrton77 »
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      Reply #348: Jan 24, 2009 07:33:31 pm
      He's been out in the cold since the summer. When we tried to sell him but he was a pr**k and stayed for the money.

      You are the architect of your unhappiness, Jermaine. Don't come back.
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      Re: Portsmouth agree fee for Pennant but...
      Reply #349: Jan 24, 2009 09:18:19 pm
      He's been out in the cold since the summer. When we tried to sell him but he was a pr**k and stayed for the money.

      You are the architect of your unhappiness, Jermaine. Don't come back.
      He's a sad disillusioned person,how can anyone so lacking in character be taken seriously?
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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #350: Jan 24, 2009 11:54:48 pm
      He's a F***ing whopper................. ....end of
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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #351: Jan 25, 2009 03:42:24 am
      I know you guys are probably gonna bash me for saying this........ but i think Pennant had real skills and was the only real right winger and he was good at crossing the ball and played well in the Wigan game ! So what if he can finish at least he can give good delivery and get around defenders ! But i think Rafa left him  because he was doing things like drinking ,and coming late for training ..so that is a good enough reason for rafa to drop him.
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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #352: Jan 25, 2009 07:27:45 am
       Could we now change the title of this thread to----Jermaine Pennant ex L.F.C. Player thread or is he still officially classed as a L.F.C. player even though he will never wear our famous RED SHIRT again.
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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #353: Jan 25, 2009 08:42:05 am
      we are losing a quality player in Pennant.He is a great crosser of the ball and would provide the kind of service that Torres and Keane will thrive on.Instead Rafa selects Kuyt,who cant cross a cheque,let alone a ball,on the right.Pennant is better than Benayoun or Kuyt.This is Rafa's mess up...again.He gets rid of all the quality payers and keeps the c.rap(Kuyt,benayoun).rafa is ruining Liverpool Fc with his negative tactics and talk.He must go!We need more English players at the club if we ever are to win the league title.Too many mediocre Spanish(zzzzzzzzz)players(bar Torres) and the boring Spanish style of play.
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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #354: Jan 25, 2009 08:46:50 am
      we are losing a quality player in Pennant.He is a great crosser of the ball and would provide the kind of service that Torres and Keane will thrive on.Instead Rafa selects Kuyt,who cant cross a cheque,let alone a ball,on the right.Pennant is better than Benayoun or Kuyt.This is Rafa's mess up...again.He gets rid of all the quality payers and keeps the c.rap(Kuyt,benayoun).rafa is ruining Liverpool Fc with his negative tactics and talk.He must go!We need more English players at the club if we ever are to win the league title.Too many mediocre Spanish(zzzzzzzzz)players(bar Torres) and the boring Spanish style of play.
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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #355: Jan 25, 2009 08:48:12 am
      Sid if you don't have nothing good to say F**k off. We don't need to ruin our forum. We need to trust rafa 'cos he is one of the best managers in the world.
      Sid for you alonso & reina are mediocre players e. Think twice before you comment.
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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #356: Jan 25, 2009 10:17:22 am
      Ignore sid. I'm surprised his first post didn't get him banned because it's obvious he's a Manc or a Bitter.
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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #357: Jan 25, 2009 12:13:40 pm
      we are losing a quality player in Pennant.He is a great crosser of the ball and would provide the kind of service that Torres and Keane will thrive on.Instead Rafa selects Kuyt,who cant cross a cheque,let alone a ball,on the right.Pennant is better than Benayoun or Kuyt.This is Rafa's mess up...again.He gets rid of all the quality payers and keeps the c.rap(Kuyt,benayoun).rafa is ruining Liverpool Fc with his negative tactics and talk.He must go!We need more English players at the club if we ever are to win the league title.Too many mediocre Spanish(zzzzzzzzz)players(bar Torres) and the boring Spanish style of play.

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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #358: Jan 25, 2009 12:52:40 pm
      when we signed him i thought he would be creating loads of goals from crosses, but in the end he was just not good enought.
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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #359: Jan 25, 2009 04:51:10 pm
      Pennant has no class and to be quite honest i will not shed a tear if he never plays for us ever again. Can't we offer him to Portsmouth in exchange for maybe some tea bags or toilet rolls you know something that will be useful.
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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #360: Jan 25, 2009 05:24:05 pm
      Pennant has no class and to be quite honest I will not shed a tear if he never plays for us ever again. Can't we offer him to Portsmouth in exchange for maybe some tea bags or toilet rolls you know something that will be useful.

      He has most likely has already played his last game for us.

      I would be happy to swap him for a packet of custard cream biscuits ;)
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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #361: Jan 26, 2009 08:30:38 am
      we are losing a quality player in Pennant.He is a great crosser of the ball and would provide the kind of service that Torres and Keane will thrive on.Instead Rafa selects Kuyt,who cant cross a cheque,let alone a ball,on the right.Pennant is better than Benayoun or Kuyt.This is Rafa's mess up...again.He gets rid of all the quality payers and keeps the c.rap(Kuyt,benayoun).rafa is ruining Liverpool Fc with his negative tactics and talk.He must go!We need more English players at the club if we ever are to win the league title.Too many mediocre Spanish(zzzzzzzzz)players(bar Torres) and the boring Spanish style of play.

      Welcome to the Forum Jermaine  :f_tongueincheek:
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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #362: Jan 26, 2009 12:04:08 pm
      we are losing a quality player in Pennant.He is a great crosser of the ball and would provide the kind of service that Torres and Keane will thrive on.Instead Rafa selects Kuyt,who cant cross a cheque,let alone a ball,on the right.Pennant is better than Benayoun or Kuyt.This is Rafa's mess up...again.He gets rid of all the quality payers and keeps the c.rap(Kuyt,benayoun).rafa is ruining Liverpool Fc with his negative tactics and talk.He must go!We need more English players at the club if we ever are to win the league title.Too many mediocre Spanish(zzzzzzzzz)players(bar Torres) and the boring Spanish style of play.

      And another point - Real Madrid, Barcelona, Sevilla, Valencia, VILLAREAL - they're all boring Spanish style of play teams then?

      I think you're an arsehole - but at least Rafa's still won trophies unlike that gozzied eyed tw*t Moyes.
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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #363: Jan 26, 2009 12:19:15 pm
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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #364: Jan 26, 2009 03:02:27 pm
      Oliver Kay write about Pennant in the Times, worth a read:-

      Back in the days when he was known as inmate MX7232 at HMP Woodhill, serving a 31-day prison sentence for wrapping someone else’s Mercedes around a lamppost with a little too much alcohol in his bloodstream, it is easy to imagine that Jermaine Pennant aired the odd conspiracy theory among his fellow prisoners. Nothing too inflammatory, just passing observations, like the fact that an awful lot of the inmates — almost all — seemed to be English.

      It always seems to be thus with Pennant. He is always the victim of some anti-English conspiracy. When asked upon joining Portsmouth on loan why he had become surplus to requirements at Liverpool, he answered by making dark references to Rafael Benítez’s perceived mistrust of “the English mentality” and observed, with a raised eyebrow, that “there are not a lot of English players” at Anfield — just as he did when he pitched up at Birmingham City four years earlier, saying that he would have made it at Arsenal had Arsùne Wenger not shown such a disregard for homegrown talent.

      There is a serious debate to be had about whether local youngsters get enough opportunities at those two clubs in particular — Liverpool’s reserve team against Middlesbrough last week featured 13 overseas players in the 16-man squad — but Pennant is an unconvincing standard-bearer for England’s lost generation.

      When he talks of “the English mentality”, he does a disservice to those who are looking to make the most of their abilities while he appears content to keep squandering his.
      It was ten years ago this month that Pennant, a week before his sixteenth birthday, left Notts County for Arsenal for a £2 million fee, a record for a trainee. He was hyped, inevitably, as English football’s next big thing, but those that he left behind at County cited two concerns about why he might not fulfil his potential.

      The first was his upbringing in The Meadows, one of Nottingham’s toughest districts, where he lost his mother to cancer at an early age and was left in the care of a father, Gary, who was sentenced last month to four years in prison for selling drugs. It was not the ideal support network for a teenager fĂȘted as the future of English football.

      Depending on your viewpoint, that may or may not go some way towards explaining the second concern that was raised about Pennant back then. No sooner had the ink dried on that highly lucrative contract than his father was talking openly about the problems that Arsenal might encounter. “Jermaine was too comfortable at Notts and his attitude was sometimes wrong,” Pennant Sr said. “He thought he could get away with things like missing training sessions and turning up late. I think Arsenal will iron out the disciplinary problems.”

      Wenger thought so, too, but it proved easier said than done. Stories soon emerged of a boy who would often turn up late for training — not drastically late, and always with an apologetic smile, but late enough to constitute a breach of discipline.

      Pennant would take issue with those that called it a problem: “I might have turned up a little late for a good reason, but there wasn’t a discipline problem.” Wenger disagreed: “I would definitely call that a discipline problem.”

      All Pennant had to do was to knuckle down. That is all that Wenger asked of him. It is all that David Platt asked of him when sending him home from the England Under-21 squad in April 2003 after he broke a curfew — by a matter of hours, not minutes. It is all that Benítez asked of him. Yet even in his mid-twenties, having had the short, sharp shock of a month in prison, having been given a second chance at a leading club when Liverpool came calling, punctuality remained a problem for Pennant.

      There was a feature in Liverpool’s match programme called “the last word”, in which players would be asked a series of light-hearted questions: the last film they watched, the last meal they cooked and so on. When it came to “who is last to arrive for training”, Pennant and Charles Itandje, a goalkeeper who was born with his head in the clouds, were neck-and-neck. Their team-mates seemed to find it funny. Benítez did not. Eventually, Pennant and Itandje were put up for sale. Itandje, incidentally, is French.

      There is a myth out there that British players have worse attitudes than their European counterparts. Perhaps it was the case a decade ago, but not now. Issues of class and background can play a part, but being brought up in a tough area, without the support of a conventional family, has not stopped players such as Jamie Carragher and Ryan Giggs becoming model professionals. All that managers are looking for is professionalism, as shown by Mark Hughes’s continuing difficulties with the Brazilian contingent at Manchester City.

      Perhaps a move to Portsmouth is what Pennant needs in the short term as he looks to secure his future when his contract with Liverpool expires in June. To the amazement of many, AC Milan and Real Madrid have expressed an interest.

      Perhaps leaving England would give Pennant the chance to test his theories in the big wide world. But, given that Fabio Capello, another foreign coach, has never found room for him in a squad of 23 English players, it may be time for Pennant to look for the answer within.

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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #365: Jan 26, 2009 03:30:48 pm
      AAh Ollie kay - good read that, shame the shithouse never, ever printed the story about the manc players singing That three times without killing anyone song on the pitch in Moscow in front of their own fans.

      Another journalist who is afraid of fergie!!
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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #366: Jan 26, 2009 03:44:43 pm
      Oliver Kay write about Pennant in the Times, worth a read:-

      Back in the days when he was known as inmate MX7232 at HMP Woodhill, serving a 31-day prison sentence for wrapping someone else’s Mercedes around a lamppost with a little too much alcohol in his bloodstream, it is easy to imagine that Jermaine Pennant aired the odd conspiracy theory among his fellow prisoners. Nothing too inflammatory, just passing observations, like the fact that an awful lot of the inmates — almost all — seemed to be English.

      It always seems to be thus with Pennant. He is always the victim of some anti-English conspiracy. When asked upon joining Portsmouth on loan why he had become surplus to requirements at Liverpool, he answered by making dark references to Rafael Benítez’s perceived mistrust of “the English mentality” and observed, with a raised eyebrow, that “there are not a lot of English players” at Anfield — just as he did when he pitched up at Birmingham City four years earlier, saying that he would have made it at Arsenal had Arsùne Wenger not shown such a disregard for homegrown talent.

      There is a serious debate to be had about whether local youngsters get enough opportunities at those two clubs in particular — Liverpool’s reserve team against Middlesbrough last week featured 13 overseas players in the 16-man squad — but Pennant is an unconvincing standard-bearer for England’s lost generation.

      When he talks of “the English mentality”, he does a disservice to those who are looking to make the most of their abilities while he appears content to keep squandering his.
      It was ten years ago this month that Pennant, a week before his sixteenth birthday, left Notts County for Arsenal for a £2 million fee, a record for a trainee. He was hyped, inevitably, as English football’s next big thing, but those that he left behind at County cited two concerns about why he might not fulfil his potential.

      The first was his upbringing in The Meadows, one of Nottingham’s toughest districts, where he lost his mother to cancer at an early age and was left in the care of a father, Gary, who was sentenced last month to four years in prison for selling drugs. It was not the ideal support network for a teenager fĂȘted as the future of English football.

      Depending on your viewpoint, that may or may not go some way towards explaining the second concern that was raised about Pennant back then. No sooner had the ink dried on that highly lucrative contract than his father was talking openly about the problems that Arsenal might encounter. “Jermaine was too comfortable at Notts and his attitude was sometimes wrong,” Pennant Sr said. “He thought he could get away with things like missing training sessions and turning up late. I think Arsenal will iron out the disciplinary problems.”

      Wenger thought so, too, but it proved easier said than done. Stories soon emerged of a boy who would often turn up late for training — not drastically late, and always with an apologetic smile, but late enough to constitute a breach of discipline.

      Pennant would take issue with those that called it a problem: “I might have turned up a little late for a good reason, but there wasn’t a discipline problem.” Wenger disagreed: “I would definitely call that a discipline problem.”

      All Pennant had to do was to knuckle down. That is all that Wenger asked of him. It is all that David Platt asked of him when sending him home from the England Under-21 squad in April 2003 after he broke a curfew — by a matter of hours, not minutes. It is all that Benítez asked of him. Yet even in his mid-twenties, having had the short, sharp shock of a month in prison, having been given a second chance at a leading club when Liverpool came calling, punctuality remained a problem for Pennant.

      There was a feature in Liverpool’s match programme called “the last word”, in which players would be asked a series of light-hearted questions: the last film they watched, the last meal they cooked and so on. When it came to “who is last to arrive for training”, Pennant and Charles Itandje, a goalkeeper who was born with his head in the clouds, were neck-and-neck. Their team-mates seemed to find it funny. Benítez did not. Eventually, Pennant and Itandje were put up for sale. Itandje, incidentally, is French.

      There is a myth out there that British players have worse attitudes than their European counterparts. Perhaps it was the case a decade ago, but not now. Issues of class and background can play a part, but being brought up in a tough area, without the support of a conventional family, has not stopped players such as Jamie Carragher and Ryan Giggs becoming model professionals. All that managers are looking for is professionalism, as shown by Mark Hughes’s continuing difficulties with the Brazilian contingent at Manchester City.

      Perhaps a move to Portsmouth is what Pennant needs in the short term as he looks to secure his future when his contract with Liverpool expires in June. To the amazement of many, AC Milan and Real Madrid have expressed an interest.

      Perhaps leaving England would give Pennant the chance to test his theories in the big wide world. But, given that Fabio Capello, another foreign coach, has never found room for him in a squad of 23 English players, it may be time for Pennant to look for the answer within.



      It's a case of a player who could have gone on to be great but is too damn lazy you actually have to work hard not go out and party.There's no doubt in my mind that he has played his last game in a reds shirt I just hope for his sake that when he finds a new club he knuckles down and starts working hard and earning his place in the team. Get your head out of the clouds jermaine its already cost you your liverpool career don't let it cost you your footballing career.
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      Re: Jermaine Pennant - LFC Player thread
      Reply #367: Jun 03, 2009 01:43:32 pm
      Has he gone yet or what?

      I know he's out of contact but when is the actual date that he's no longer being paid by the club?

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