The January Transfer Window - Stick or Twist?

Absolutely, I agree. I think if someone is available then you have to go for them.

We may see some future first team players signed in Jan for sure, I think we will see a largely unchanged starring XI for the remainder of this season.

Good point on Mane too, I fear for January and losing him. He's been outstanding!

I know it's a joke they're allowed to have that tournament every 2 years if I were a European club signing an African player I'd say if you want to sign for us you play one of them and miss one or play for someone else
My worry is the one game Mane didn't play this season we were blunt as f**k and lost 2-0. Without him where is the pace in the team? Origi perhaps?

We still need a left back, defensive mid and winger/attacker. Doesnt mean we have to go out and get them all at once, lets see whos available.

I know it's a joke they're allowed to have that tournament every 2 years if I were a European club signing an African player I'd say if you want to sign for us you play one of them and miss one or play for someone else
My worry is the one game Mane didn't play this season we were blunt as f**k and lost 2-0. Without him where is the pace in the team? Origi perhaps?

you know when you sign them they will disappear so you can't complain

Milner has been nothing short of outstanding at left back. If he was a foreign signing we knew nothing about then people would be creaming over him.

It was a master stroke by Klopp and there is absolutely no reason to replace him with a recognised left back.

Also if there wasn't a player available in the summer why would the right fit be available in January?

Also our forward line is looking stronger than any other team, we've got sturridge and origi sat on the bench which says it all. Our midfield is only a selection of 3 players too and we have plenty to occupy those positions.

The only signing I would like to see is maybe a back up right back as if Clyne gets injured we may struggle with only TAA to replace him.

Stay as we are, we couldn't be any higher up the table! Strengthen next summer.

I appreciate your enthusiasm for where we're at right now but I must say I disagree with you on a few points.

Firstly I've always disliked the "If he was foreign people would think the sun shines out of his arse yada yada" narrative some of the lesser managers and ex-players push. That's Allardyce-speak and I'd like to think that as Liverpool fans we're better than that. People on this forum have been raving about Milner at left back, other Liverpool supporters I encounter daily have been raving about Milner at left back, supporters of OTHER clubs have been raving about Milner at left back. Commentators during our matches rave about Milner at left back. The possibly illiterate ex-players who "analyse" matches rave about Milner at left back. So who are these people holding out on praise for Milner and waiting for us to sign Hames Milnerinho?

Secondly I feel that signing a proper left back effectively strengthens 3 positions in our team at once. We get a proper left back and it allows Milner to go back into being a central midfield option as well as being cover (if necessary) for Clyne. There you go there's one good reason I've thought of.

A second reason would be that having a left footed option on the left allows us to stretch the play (just look at some of Moreno's offensive play for the first half an hour at Palace for example) Milner as good as he is cannot give us that. There's a second good reason for you.

And if losing Mane's pace whilst he's at the AFCON is a concern then having a left back in place could allow us to use the time Mane's away to try Moreno out as a winger. He has pace to burn and he learnt his trade as a winger before being "converted" to Left back during his last couple of seasons at Sevilla. I think it's worth having a go to see what he can provide for us in a position where his greatest flaws (his lack of positioning and defensive awareness) are less of a requirement.

The availability of a suitable player is a fair point especially in the January market that much I'll give you but just because it would be difficult to find the right player doesn't mean we should sit on our hands and do nothing if something can be done. And to be fair to you it seems you agree with me on this point.

We should be relentless in all facets at the football club. We should press forward and continually strengthen when the opportunities present themselves.

YNWA mate and hopefully we stay at the top and clinch #19 come May.

I know it's a joke they're allowed to have that tournament every 2 years if I were a European club signing an African player I'd say if you want to sign for us you play one of them and miss one or play for someone else
My worry is the one game Mane didn't play this season we were blunt as f**k and lost 2-0. Without him where is the pace in the team? Origi perhaps?

It's a good thing you're not a European club then. Nobody's forcing Mane to participate he's doing so because he has a desire to.
Plus it's not really a European problem though is it because clubs on the continent have winter breaks so players away at the AFCON generally only miss a couple of matches at most. It's an English problem take it up with the FA.

Surely if ever there was an opportunity to bring in more top class players it is this January.

Who wouldn't want to get on board this train?

Not sure Lucas or Klavan good enough to be our third best CB option. Loan.player best option but if we get one means they werent good enough at their own club usually

Both Klavan and Lucas are better than Sakho, the only area where I think we need strengthening is LB. In midfield and attack I think we have enough options from the reserves/bench, unless we can get a really good deal.

Both Klavan and Lucas are better than Sakho, the only area where I think we need strengthening is LB. In midfield and attack I think we have enough options from the reserves/bench, unless we can get a really good deal.

BETTER THAN SAKHO AT CB! I'll have some of what you're smoking please.

Sakho was one of the best CB's in the league last season for periods (when he wasn't coming back from injury)
Lucas has a big mistake in him at CB and Klavan has been brought in as cover at best.

Sakho would have been monstrous if he worked well with matip!

I voted "other" for what I feel are obvious reasons.  We already have some great quality in the side, and good squad options as cover in case of injuries/suspensions.  If one of our front 4 goes down, we have Studge (the most talented player in the league who isn't a regular starter) to come in, or we could push Gini further forward into a more attack minded role.  There is also Origi who is more than capable of doing the business.  In midfield, Can, Lucas, Grujic, and Stewart give us suitable if unspectacular cover.  Milner's ability to play at either fullback spot makes us at least 2 deep in those roles.  Klavan and Lucas have already shown that they are up for it at CBS.  Finally, Migs might not be a great GK, but he is a great backup to have on hand!

Of course we could use more quality players (every side could), but there's no sense spending money for the sake of it.  If we find the right player at the right price then we should absolutely spend.  If not, no biggie. 

Agreed Billy.

i think we do need a solid left back

Theres a chap just finishing playing abroad who has come available.

Would be on a Free Transfer.

Could  add a bit of experience to the team  coming on for the last 10 minutes of a game .

Especially for our last home game  .




Mr Steven George Gerrard   MBE .

( He needs the set ... hes missing one )

Unless a player or two leaves us or we suffer a serious injury to a key player then I don't want to bring anybody else in.

At the beginning of the season I was very critical of our squad - on paper, I didn't think it was good enough to compete. In particular, I mentioned our attack and I didn't see were our goals were coming from.  I look like a right tit now because we've score 30 after 11 games; we're banging them in left, right and centre. The whole team is chipping in and goals are coming from bloody everywhere.

There is a saying in football - never change a winning team.  So while we are winning and playing well I don't want to see any additions which may unsettle us.

I'd have felt differently perhaps if we were in Europe and challenging on all fronts but this season we have only the league to focus on (the cups would be a lovely bonus but they aren't our priority). Our squad is good enough and big enough to compete in my opinion. No additions until the summer.

BETTER THAN SAKHO AT CB! I'll have some of what you're smoking please.

Sakho was one of the best CB's in the league last season for periods (when he wasn't coming back from injury)
Lucas has a big mistake in him at CB and Klavan has been brought in as cover at best.

Sakho would have been monstrous if he worked well with matip!

Hmm so I guess we have to assume that Klopp is an idiot then for not playing him. BTW I seem to recall Sakho having plenty of mistakes in him as well last season. Bottom line is that I genuinely prefer both Lucas and Klaven to Sakho, you disagree with this, c'est la vie, its the basis of any forum :-).

Both Klavan and Lucas are better than Sakho

No they're not.

Sakho is a much better CB than either but its a moot point as he's as good as gone.

Theres a chap just finishing playing abroad who has come available.

Would be on a Free Transfer.

Could  add a bit of experience to the team  coming on for the last 10 minutes of a game .

Especially for our last home game  .




Mr Steven George Gerrard   MBE .

( He needs the set ... hes missing one )

I've had another think about those Skip and the more I do the more I think I'd like it.

Stevie is more or less retired but as a guy in the squad and willing to play a few minutes here and there, especially in cup games where Jurgrn might want to rest a few then I think it could be a goer.

We need new signings in January. Or at least loan signings to cover for injuries and the ANC. Another couple of Caulker's basically.

The January schedule sees the trip to the toilet and 2 league games later, Chelsea at home. There's also cup games on the menu too. Not a major issue if it's Colchester or Hull at home. But a bigger issue if it's the likes of Arsenal or West Ham away.

We're also painfully short at left back. Yes Milner is doing the job and doing it well, but he's not a specialist left back and he's only doing it because Moreno can't be trusted to do it right. Even in the Spurs game when they were chasing extra time, he was 30 yards up the pitch, leaving the freedom of Anfield for them if they used it. Thankfully they didn't, but next time it could be a different outcome. So a bit of tweaking is needed.

That said, I don't think Klopp will bring anyone in, so I hope it works out.

Would not be surprised in the least if we see something like a Dahoud in January...bring him in early..let him settle.

I get that Jürgen has said that with the injury to Ings and Mane missing 6 or so weeks in January that we might venture into the transfer market but who could/would we get who can come in, be up to speed immediately and replace what Mane brings us?  I'd say there's very few that would be available to do that.

Most likely we'll work on using who we've got, tweak things slightly to keep momentum going and probably bring in someone to work with ready for next season. 

A Pulisic, Dahoud, Tielemans type or most likely a Sule.  Lucas won't be with us next season unless a contract extension suddenly appears but it's doubtful as he'd have got one in the summer, even if it was just for another year and Sakho definitely won't be.  Yes we have Gomez as a young defender but there's no knowing how his injury will effect him yet and other than young Masterson who's still only 17 we've nobody playing really at that Academy at CB.

We might also target a young LB, not necessarily a youthy but one playing regularly at a decent level as I'm sure despite how well Milner's playing Jürgen will have his eyes peeled for someone to replace him.

Luke Shaw anyone?

Luke Shaw anyone?

Hes sh*t and he's tainted with manure.

Who's looking good at Southampton this year?

Who's looking good at Southampton this year?

To match up, I'd like to ask who are the players who cost £0.

Luke Shaw anyone?

He's a shadow of the player who was at Southampton. That one I'd have said yes to but he seems to have regressed. What a waste of 30m.

Who's looking good at Southampton this year?

I know it was asked with a heavy pinch of sarcasm but being honest, Van Dijk is looking really good. I've liked his style on the ball for a while but never fully been aware of what he's like at actually tackling and winning balls in the air.

In the "Re: Liverpool side 2013-14 v 2016-17 - Who wins?"  thread it is pretty much unanimous that Suarez in this current team would be unplayable.

Anybody for a Suarez type signing? obviously not a player of his current quality, but a young player with similar attributes?

Do we have this already in Firmino or would a signing such as this push Sturridge out completely?