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      Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster

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      Redangel
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #25: Jun 28, 2017 11:28:08 am
      Dukenfield charged with manslaughter by gross negligence. Bettison charged with 4 counts of misconduct in a public office.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #26: Jun 28, 2017 11:36:39 am

      Gave me a cold shiver all over that.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #27: Jun 28, 2017 11:55:31 am
      What would be the implications of guilty verdicts on these individuals?
      Would they forfeit titles, pensions and all the associated benefits of their fraudulent status?
      Margaret Aspinall is quoted as saying she hopes today marks the end of her 28 year fight for justice, amen to that.

      Will the defendants shed any more light on their paymasters?
      Will they disclose why they were promoted beyond their station after lying about the tragedy?
      How far up the ladder of evil is it possible to climb?
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #28: Jun 28, 2017 12:15:58 pm
      Any statements from the families yet?
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #29: Jun 28, 2017 12:19:03 pm
      I'm seeing people tweeting to be careful what is said about the people charged on social media because it could bias a trial.....what happened to freedom of speech (in England)?

      If people want to call those charged mass murderers that should be their business and their right. How could that affect a trial?
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #30: Jun 28, 2017 12:25:11 pm
      I'm seeing people tweeting to be careful what is said about the people charged on social media because it could bias a trial.....what happened to freedom of speech (in England)?

      If people want to call those charged mass murderers that should be their business and their right. How could that affect a trial?

      Because the legal system is different in england, people whatever you think have a right to a fair trial and any comments could be seen as prejudicial and could be sedn to affect that right
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #31: Jun 28, 2017 12:30:16 pm
      It's been a long wait for justice, let the courts do their work and then we can all have our say.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #32: Jun 28, 2017 12:36:54 pm
      If people want to call those charged mass murderers that should be their business and their right. How could that affect a trial?

      Venting your spleen on the internet isn't going to make you feel better but could give a lawyer a get out for one of those charged if one of the jurors could be proven to have been influenced by something they read on the internet.

      People will be voicing their opinions in households and workplaces all over the world but bitching on facebook, twitter etc isn't required anyway is it?

      If you know what I mean mate.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #33: Jun 28, 2017 01:01:56 pm
      Venting your spleen on the internet isn't going to make you feel better but could give a lawyer a get out for one of those charged if one of the jurors could be proven to have been influenced by something they read on the internet.

      People will be voicing their opinions in households and workplaces all over the world but bitching on facebook, twitter etc isn't required anyway is it?

      If you know what I mean mate.

      But social media is global isn't it? So people from around the world could make comments that are just as easily read by those in Engerland as in Bangladesh.

      I wouldn't want justice to be perverted in any way, and I hope those implicated get what they deserve, I just find it hilarious that the average citizen isn't allowed to have their say (regardless of its vitriol or validity) because it could somehow taint the process of justice.

      I can understand those in the media not being allowed to provide commentary (although that's still odd as freedom of the press is a cornerstone of a free society) but there'd be no foolproof way to prove what was said on social media came from a British citizen.

      Sorry, it just seems weird to me. Failing all that, I hope the families of the 96 and all those personally affected get a final amount of closure and justice.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #34: Jun 28, 2017 01:08:30 pm
      Hillsborough families spend 28 years in a quest for justice for their dead relatives.  On the day action is announced people want to argue about contempt of court laws of the United Kingdom.

      I do wonder about some of you.

      Well done to the investigation teams on uncovering enough evidence that the CPS deem them worthy of prosecutions - all too often high profile cases seem to fall by the wayside.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #35: Jun 28, 2017 01:13:22 pm
      Seeing as my posts were deleted i suggest we lock this thread down in case anyone else mentions this case in an unfavorable way.
      Perhaps we should also petition all the newspapers not to run stories about and has someone already been in touch with Facebook and Twitter to make sure they block any tweets or posts about it. Perhaps we can also ask Google to block any searches on the subject.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #36: Jun 28, 2017 01:24:36 pm
      Absolutely made up with the decision by CPS, trials to start beginning of August.

      This is for the victims, the survivors, the families and everyone else whoever fought to get to this point. Whenever you were asked "what is it you lot want"

      THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED!!
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #37: Jun 28, 2017 02:15:31 pm
      Seeing as my posts were deleted i suggest we lock this thread down in case anyone else mentions this case in an unfavorable way.
      Perhaps we should also petition all the newspapers not to run stories about and has someone already been in touch with Facebook and Twitter to make sure they block any tweets or posts about it. Perhaps we can also ask Google to block any searches on the subject.

      Deleting your posts should do the trick I would say.

      I was at my local 8-ball comp tonight when I saw the news break that charges had been laid. The news made me happy, which then made me sad - because a victory in such a case is so hollow, because 96 should never have perished. As such lies the catch-22. We will never forget. On a day of victory in light of the events, we still forever hold the pain in our hearts for those that never came home - it will never die.

      Justice for the 96. Love for the 96.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #38: Jun 28, 2017 02:23:23 pm
      Hillsborough families spend 28 years in a quest for justice for their dead relatives.  On the day action is announced people want to argue about contempt of court laws of the United Kingdom.

      I do wonder about some of you.

      Well done to the investigation teams on uncovering enough evidence that the CPS deem them worthy of prosecutions - all too often high profile cases seem to fall by the wayside.

      I'm merely trying to understand the legal issue of speaking out publiclly as it's foreign to me, I apologize if this was taken the wrong way, like I said, the important thing is that justice is served and the families have closure. Far too long have they had to wait.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #39: Jun 28, 2017 03:37:25 pm
      Didn't realise this was being announced today.

      What a day, 28 years and that b***ard Duckenfield is going to have to finally face up to what he did. He's been a free a man for longer than some of the victims lived.

      But today isn't a day to dwell on such things, justice is finally being brought.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #40: Jun 28, 2017 04:14:03 pm
      Is the person from Sheffield Wednesday being charged because of nobody being there to direct people into side pends when the center pen became crowded? Sorry for my ignorance of UK law. These people standing trial for what happened is the right thing, 28 years too late.

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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #41: Jun 28, 2017 06:15:29 pm
      Mixed  emotions.

      Obviously delighted with the outcome and for the families. But rewatching the footage  on the news is heartbreaking. The cover ups  and lies my God.

      Thoughts with the 96 lost tonight
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #42: Jun 28, 2017 06:18:00 pm
      Is the person from Sheffield Wednesday being charged because of nobody being there to direct people into side pends when the center pen became crowded? Sorry for my ignorance of UK law. These people standing trial for what happened is the right thing, 28 years too late.



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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #43: Jun 28, 2017 06:21:07 pm
      There is a day where I hope I never ever have to use the JFT96 tag again.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #44: Jun 28, 2017 06:45:05 pm
      I'm seeing people tweeting to be careful what is said about the people charged on social media because it could bias a trial.....what happened to freedom of speech (in England)?

      If people want to call those charged mass murderers that should be their business and their right. How could that affect a trial?

      A tweet from a high profile person that would garner the attention of a large audience is one example.

      Jurors have to be able to make their decisions free from potentially prejudicial influences, solely on the facts and issues before them.

      We are finally here, so let justice be done.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #45: Jun 28, 2017 06:46:19 pm
      Delighted for the families, they have suffered long enough, and now the end is almost upon them, nothing will ever ease the 28 yrs of family, of weddings , births, birthdays, christmasses, holiday's etc they missed with those they lost, closure is what is important and today they took a step closer,
      i just hope that justice is finally served on those responsible for 28 years of suffering, August can't come quick enough.

      My heart goes out to all those families of the '96', you fought for those you lost right to the very end, God bless you all.

      You'll Never Walk Alone

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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #46: Jun 28, 2017 09:34:38 pm
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #47: Jun 28, 2017 09:49:47 pm
      Bernatd Ingham has said he won't apologise so as he hasn't been charged can i call him a sad, bitter, twistef, poisonous old c**t ?
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #48: Jun 28, 2017 09:53:47 pm
      I don't think justice can ever be achieved to right the wrongs and heal the wounds of those affected.  However, retribution is long overdue.  Hopefully this brings some sense of peace and/or closure to the families of those lost. 
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #49: Jun 28, 2017 10:34:01 pm
      Bernatd Ingham has said he won't apologise so as he hasn't been charged can i call him a sad, bitter, twistef, poisonous old c**t ?

      Yes, you can also wish him to be buggered by every demon in hell for eternity.

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