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      Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster

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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #60: Jul 28, 2017 12:21:07 pm
      What would be the implications of guilty verdicts on these individuals?
      Would they forfeit titles, pensions and all the associated benefits of their fraudulent status?
      Margaret Aspinall is quoted as saying she hopes today marks the end of her 28 year fight for justice, amen to that.

      Will the defendants shed any more light on their paymasters?
      Will they disclose why they were promoted beyond their station after lying about the tragedy?
      How far up the ladder of evil is it possible to climb?



      The separate trials of Duckenfield and 5 other defendants will hopefully expose the veiled establishment deceit that contributed to the 28 years of injustice that continued with the help of the above mentioned.

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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #61: Jul 28, 2017 04:56:01 pm
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #62: Jul 29, 2017 03:17:53 pm

      Tw*ts - taking the piss to unseen depths of corruption.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #63: Aug 09, 2017 06:57:21 pm
      All defendants indicating not guilty pleas.

      I'm not even slightly surprised, there won't be any difference in sentences given for an early plea.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #64: Sep 08, 2017 03:09:13 pm
      The Hillsborough families will be able to access funds for travelling and incurred expenses when the proceedings against those accused begins in Preston this week.
      The JCP Fund Trustees have said they will step in while the CPS dithers and pisses about as is their way, while considering the application.

      Meanwhile the legal expenses for the accused establishment puppets exceeds £5m.

      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-families-access-financial-help-13571521
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #65: Mar 14, 2018 01:26:58 pm
      Hillsborough: No further criminal charges likely over disaster and aftermath

      No more former officers are likely to face criminal prosecutions in connection to the Hillsborough tragedy and its aftermath.
       
      The Crown Prosecution Service today confirmed it will not charge two ex-West Midlands Police officers, whose actions it was probing.
       
      It was also revealed evidence linked to three former South Yorkshire Police officers would not be passed to prosecutors for consideration.
       
      In a series of announcements this morning the CPS and police watchdog the Independent Office for Police Conduct (formerly the IPCC) revealed their latest findings linked to the investigation surrounding the 1989 tragedy and what followed.
       
      The CPS had been reviewing a West Midlands Police evidence file linked to two suspects that was referred to it by the IOPC last year.
       
      West Midlands Police was the force called in to review the conduct of South Yorkshire Police officers following the disaster.
       
      The WMP officers faced allegations they “failed to investigate the cause of the Hillsborough disaster properly, either deliberately to assist South Yorkshire Police (SYP) or otherwise negligently, and/or that a misleading or incomplete file was submitted to the Director of Public Prosecutions in 1990”.
       
      However, the CPS has ruled that, while cause for concern was found in the actions of both suspects, there was not enough evidence to “reach the high threshold required to prove a criminal offence”.

      The CPS added:
       
      There is evidence some aspects of the investigation were not carried out to a high standard but not none to show any deliberate plan or action by the suspects to hinder it.
         
      There is difficulty in attributing responsibility for all of the failings to these suspects.
       
      There is no evidence that, as alleged, one suspect intentionally provided an inappropriate selection of evidence to the DPP so that he did not have an accurate picture of the key evidence available.
       
      Sue Hemming, Head of Special Crime and Counter Terrorism Division at the CPS, today said: “I appreciate that my decision will be disappointing to you, but I would like to reassure you that in reaching this conclusion, we have spent a significant amount of time reviewing and considering the evidence that was submitted to us.
       
      “As you know, the standard of evidence required for any criminal prosecution is high.”
       
      The CPS is not considering any other files in relation to Hillsborough.
       
      This morning, the IOPC also released details of its findings in relation to three ex-SYP officers who were considered to be suspects but whose cases had not yet been referred to the CPS.
       
      It was alleged they sought to deliberately mislead the Lord Justice Taylor inquiry, the contributions hearing and the original inquest proceedings.
       
      There was some indication that two of the three former officers may have committed a criminal offence but the CPS ruled it was not appropriate to refer their cases because they had already rejected the possibility of bringing criminal charges based on evidence reviewed in 2016. It added that no further evidence or legal matters had since been identified that could "realistically alter that view".
       
      The body confirmed the cases were not being passed to the CPS - meaning the suspects will not be prosecuted.

      Strategic lead for Hillsborough, Rachel Cerfontyne said: “At the core of my decision not to refer these SYP officers for formal charging decisions is the CPS’s clear view that charges would not be brought and the risk that a referral could cause disruption to the forthcoming Hillsborough trials.
       
      “The evidence gathered by the investigation team has been wide ranging and thorough. I have reviewed it very carefully, as I know the CPS have done.
       
      “This will now be used to determine if any officer involved in Hillsborough would have had a case to answer for misconduct if they were still serving. These findings, along with underlying evidence, will be set out in full in the Hillsborough final investigation report.”
       
      The update comes nine months after charges were announced against five men following an extensive investigation sparked by the Hillsborough Independent Panel report, published in 2012.

      Those suspects, including former Merseyside Police Chief Constable Norman Bettison, were charged with offences relating to the disaster and its aftermath, which led to the deaths of 96 Liverpool FC fans at an FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest.
       
      Charges were authorised against a sixth man, matchday commander David Duckenfield, but in order to prosecute him a legal order imposed after an attempted private prosecution has to be lifted.
       
      Discussions over the lifting of that order - which if granted would see Mr Duckenfield charged with 95 counts of manslaughter by gross negligence - are currently going through the courts.

       Laws in place at the time mean he could not be charged in connection with the 96th fan to die, Tony Bland, due to the length of time Mr Bland died after the tragedy.

      https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-no-more-criminal-charges-14408892
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #66: Jun 09, 2018 11:35:10 pm
      https://twitter.com/charlhennessy1/status/1005410837861892097?s=19

      Not sure if this is the right place but, anyway.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #67: Jun 10, 2018 05:12:16 pm
      Does anyone really believe that justice will be done and the guilty given the appropriate sentence.
      Its going to be a fudge we all know it I pray it isn't but experience tells us other wise
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #68: Jun 10, 2018 05:16:50 pm
      Does anyone really believe that justice will be done and the guilty given the appropriate sentence.
      Its going to be a fudge we all know it I pray it isn't but experience tells us other wise

      I've got this weird paranoia about the timing of Kenny's Knighthood and all of this starting. I don't know how it could be relevant but I can't help finding it strange.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #69: Jun 11, 2018 07:30:55 pm
      Sounds about right for them!!

      Hillsborough: Duckenfield and others bid to stop prosecutions

      Six men including former police chief David Duckenfield have begun a legal bid to prevent them being prosecuted over the Hillsborough Disaster.

      They have asked a judge at Preston Crown Court to halt any future prosecutions by claiming they are an abuse of the legal process.

      A legal order imposed in 2000 would have to be lifted before Mr Duckenfield can face manslaughter charges.

      The hearing is expected to last up to two weeks.

      Mr Duckenfield faces 95 charges of gross negligence manslaughter following a fatal crush at the 1989 FA Cup semi-final which resulted in the deaths of 96 Liverpool fans.

      For legal reasons, the 73-year-old cannot be charged over the death of the 96th victim Tony Bland as he died four years after the disaster.

      The hearing will address the issue of a legal order - or 'stay' - imposed following a private prosecution 18 years ago halting future legal proceedings against the former chief superintendent.

      The Crown Prosecution Service has applied for that stay to be lifted.

      Lawyers representing the six men are expected to make their applications to judge Sir Peter Openshaw to have any forthcoming prosecutions halted.

      The full list of individuals and charges are:

      Mr Duckenfield, 73, faces manslaughter by gross negligence of 95 men, women and children

      Sir Norman Bettison, 61, faces four charges of misconduct in a public office relating to alleged lies he told about his involvement in the aftermath of Hillsborough and the culpability of fans

      Graham Mackrell, former Sheffield Wednesday club secretary, will be accused of breaching Health and Safety and Safety at Sports Grounds legislation

      Peter Metcalf, who was a solicitor acting for South Yorkshire Police, is charged with perverting the course of justice, relating to
      alleged changes to witness statements

      Former Ch Supt Donald Denton and former Det Ch Insp Alan Foster are accused of perverting the course of justice

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-44443369
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #70: Jun 11, 2018 08:24:40 pm
      Sounds about right for them!!

      Hillsborough: Duckenfield and others bid to stop prosecutions

      Six men including former police chief David Duckenfield have begun a legal bid to prevent them being prosecuted over the Hillsborough Disaster.

      They have asked a judge at Preston Crown Court to halt any future prosecutions by claiming they are an abuse of the legal process.

      A legal order imposed in 2000 would have to be lifted before Mr Duckenfield can face manslaughter charges.

      The hearing is expected to last up to two weeks.

      Mr Duckenfield faces 95 charges of gross negligence manslaughter following a fatal crush at the 1989 FA Cup semi-final which resulted in the deaths of 96 Liverpool fans.

      For legal reasons, the 73-year-old cannot be charged over the death of the 96th victim Tony Bland as he died four years after the disaster.

      The hearing will address the issue of a legal order - or 'stay' - imposed following a private prosecution 18 years ago halting future legal proceedings against the former chief superintendent.

      The Crown Prosecution Service has applied for that stay to be lifted.

      Lawyers representing the six men are expected to make their applications to judge Sir Peter Openshaw to have any forthcoming prosecutions halted.

      The full list of individuals and charges are:

      Mr Duckenfield, 73, faces manslaughter by gross negligence of 95 men, women and children

      Sir Norman Bettison, 61, faces four charges of misconduct in a public office relating to alleged lies he told about his involvement in the aftermath of Hillsborough and the culpability of fans

      Graham Mackrell, former Sheffield Wednesday club secretary, will be accused of breaching Health and Safety and Safety at Sports Grounds legislation

      Peter Metcalf, who was a solicitor acting for South Yorkshire Police, is charged with perverting the course of justice, relating to
      alleged changes to witness statements

      Former Ch Supt Donald Denton and former Det Ch Insp Alan Foster are accused of perverting the course of justice

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-44443369

      Cu*ts.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #71: Jun 11, 2018 08:34:22 pm
      Sounds about right for them!!

      Hillsborough: Duckenfield and others bid to stop prosecutions

      Six men including former police chief David Duckenfield have begun a legal bid to prevent them being prosecuted over the Hillsborough Disaster.

      They have asked a judge at Preston Crown Court to halt any future prosecutions by claiming they are an abuse of the legal process.

      A legal order imposed in 2000 would have to be lifted before Mr Duckenfield can face manslaughter charges.

      The hearing is expected to last up to two weeks.

      Mr Duckenfield faces 95 charges of gross negligence manslaughter following a fatal crush at the 1989 FA Cup semi-final which resulted in the deaths of 96 Liverpool fans.

      For legal reasons, the 73-year-old cannot be charged over the death of the 96th victim Tony Bland as he died four years after the disaster.

      The hearing will address the issue of a legal order - or 'stay' - imposed following a private prosecution 18 years ago halting future legal proceedings against the former chief superintendent.

      The Crown Prosecution Service has applied for that stay to be lifted.

      Lawyers representing the six men are expected to make their applications to judge Sir Peter Openshaw to have any forthcoming prosecutions halted.

      The full list of individuals and charges are:

      Mr Duckenfield, 73, faces manslaughter by gross negligence of 95 men, women and children

      Sir Norman Bettison, 61, faces four charges of misconduct in a public office relating to alleged lies he told about his involvement in the aftermath of Hillsborough and the culpability of fans

      Graham Mackrell, former Sheffield Wednesday club secretary, will be accused of breaching Health and Safety and Safety at Sports Grounds legislation

      Peter Metcalf, who was a solicitor acting for South Yorkshire Police, is charged with perverting the course of justice, relating to
      alleged changes to witness statements

      Former Ch Supt Donald Denton and former Det Ch Insp Alan Foster are accused of perverting the course of justice

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-44443369

      Claiming an abuse of the legal process.....are they serious? An ABUSE of the legal process? And just what exactly do they think all of those years of coverups and corruption were?


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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #72: Jun 11, 2018 08:35:06 pm
      More cynical manoeuvring  to further delay justice for the 96 and their families,
      Devoid of any moral fibre and social responsibility whatever .
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #73: Jun 12, 2018 10:43:13 am
      Its a sham and only being done to placate people and it will be delay after delay and in the end a shambolic trial and no meaningful convictions. Fast approaching 30 years 30 f***in years and if Justice meant anything this would have been resolved  25 years ago.
      When you see Dukinfield being able to retire to protect his pension proves that the entire system is corrupt and you cant expect the Justice people are hoping for.
      Sorry to be so cynical but I cant see a good outcome to this.
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      Reply #75: Jun 29, 2018 01:08:47 pm
      Hope all get the absolute maximum sentence, Duckenfield should be done for murder X96,

      It has taken far too long for those families to find a little solace.


      JFT 96

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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #76: Jun 29, 2018 01:38:52 pm
      Hope all get the absolute maximum sentence, Duckenfield should be done for murder X96,

      It has taken far too long for those families to find a little solace.


      JFT 96

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      The f**ker still won't hold his hand up.

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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #77: Jun 29, 2018 02:00:09 pm
      The decision to prosecute Duckenfield and four others is the result of an order lifting a stay of prosecution imposed 18 years ago.
      Questions have to be asked of who and why the stay of prosecution held secure for 18 years when the world and his wife knew Duckenfield and others were implemented in the cover up; the cover up continues with those that gave Duckenfield et al protection still not brought to book.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #78: Jun 29, 2018 07:03:08 pm
      Does anyone really believe that justice will be done and the guilty given the appropriate sentence.
      Its going to be a fudge we all know it I pray it isn't but experience tells us other wise

      The decision to prosecute Duckenfield and four others is the result of an order lifting a stay of prosecution imposed 18 years ago.
      Questions have to be asked of who and why the stay of prosecution held secure for 18 years when the world and his wife knew Duckenfield and others were implemented in the cover up; the cover up continues with those that gave Duckenfield et al protection still not brought to book.

      The f**ker still won't hold his hand up.



      No Stu. Hasn't the morality or decency to even do that. He could have plea bargained.
      Indeed he could do it at the start of the trial... just to put people through the agony of the build up.

      Book and thrown come to mind mate though why do I think that the Establishment will be there watching his back in the background pulling the strings of the judiciary.

      They let the West Midlands whitewash team off the hook then.
      « Last Edit: Jun 29, 2018 07:08:31 pm by MIRO »
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #79: Jun 30, 2018 12:06:19 am
      could we actually see the people responsible for the death of 96 innocent lives finally punished for their Crime. Next year it will be
      30 years and these people have continued their lives and careers as if they had just had a parking fine. The thought of seeing these people in Court having to defend themselves will be most welcome but still a long long way from receiving justice
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #80: Jun 30, 2018 02:05:47 pm
      Bettison is next, they're coming for you but you've got a little more time to worry about the consequences of you treachery.
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      Reply #81: Jul 01, 2018 05:37:45 pm
      Bettison is next, they're coming for you but you've got a little more time to worry about the consequences of you treachery.

      wasn't it him who managed his early retirement when he got word of possible convictions. 
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      Reply #82: Jul 01, 2018 06:10:55 pm
      wasn't it him who managed his early retirement when he got word of possible convictions. 

      The very same.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #83: Jul 01, 2018 10:09:12 pm

      well he isn't going to be able to spend much of it in Prison.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #84: Jul 01, 2018 10:35:34 pm
      well he isn't going to be able to spend much of it in Prison.

      Pensions have been cancelled for cases of gross misconduct in office.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #85: Jul 02, 2018 01:24:45 pm
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      Reply #86: Jul 02, 2018 02:35:10 pm
      must remember to send him a Christmas Card wishing him a happy Christmas and a banged up new year
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      Reply #87: Jul 12, 2018 03:49:52 pm
      Can someone explain to me who is being blamed? Was it overselling what caused this problem? I don't understand...
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      Reply #88: Jul 12, 2018 06:37:08 pm
      Can someone explain to me who is being blamed? Was it overselling what caused this problem? I don't understand...

      The police for f**king up.

      Rather than trying to explain, I'd suggest go read Phil Scraton's book Hillsborough: The Truth, widely regarded as the most definitive account of the disaster and aftermath.
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      Re: Criminal Suspects Identified Regarding Hillsborough Disaster
      Reply #89: Yesterday at 12:45:54 pm
      Can someone explain to me who is being blamed? Was it overselling what caused this problem? I don't understand...

      there is almost 30 years of published articles on the subject it is probably worth doing a bit of research.

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