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      Reply #2415: Mar 16, 2025 03:16:15 pm
      Last chance for Darwin Núñez to turn laughter into legacy at Liverpool

       he prevailing sensation while watching El Chavo del Ocho is to wonder how this thing ever got made in the first place. It’s a low-budget Mexican sitcom that ran from the 70s to the 90s, centred on an eight-year-old orphan who lives in a barrel in an apartment complex. The boy is played by Roberto Gómez Bolaños, who was in his 40s when the series began and his 60s when it ended. Pretty much all the humour is derived from slapstick: situational farce, physical jokes, people getting their heads trapped in buckets. That kind of thing.

      Try to imagine ChuckleVision gone global, to the point where it was a genuine cultural touchstone for hundreds of millions, to the point where Paul and Barry Chuckle have a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and are unable to walk through Manhattan without being mobbed. That’s El Chavo. Even today it remains one of the most famous comic creations in the history of television: syndicated across the Americas, enthralling successive generations long after it was decommissioned. Including – at some point in early 2000s Uruguay – a young Darwin Núñez.     

      El Chavo del Ocho (The Kid at No 8) is Núñez’s favourite TV programme. Naturally, I have my own theories about this. El Chavo – whose real name is never revealed – is a clumsy, oversized agent of chaos, often entirely oblivious to the mayhem he creates, pursued wherever he goes by comedy sound effects but possessed of an essential purity, a credulity, a heart of gold and a homespun wisdom that makes it impossible not to root for him, even when he’s doing incredibly stupid things. El Chavo, meet thine real-life avatar. His name is Darwin.

       Often you will hear it said that Núñez divides opinion. In fact the basic outline of Núñez is pretty much a consensus view at this point: entertaining, endearing and erratic, a richly talented player for whom Liverpool paid slightly over the odds, and who probably needs to be replaced with someone more reliable sooner rather than later. We can pretty much all agree on that. In a sense, there is perhaps no player who divides opinion less than Núñez.

      What people are really talking about when they talk about Núñez dividing opinion is his inconsistency. The spectacular finishes, the spectacular misses and the vague whiff of slapstick that seems to follow him wherever he goes. There was a moment during Tuesday’s Champions League last‑16 second leg against Paris Saint-Germain when Núñez out-sprinted Luis Díaz in pursuit of Virgil van Dijk’s long ball, only to remember about the potential offside flag and start running away from it, with Díaz already having stopped. It’s the 81st minute. You’re 1-0 down. And now, for the first time in your life, you decide to worry about offside?

       The orthodox view of Núñez’s Liverpool career is that he is simply a poor fit for what Arne Slot is trying to do: a cat trapped in a grand piano, a maverick in a team seeking immaculate control, of emotions as well as the ball. Virtually all his metrics are significantly down from the Jürgen Klopp era: goals, expected goals, expected assists, key passes, dribbles, touches, shots and shots on target. This season Liverpool perform a goal a game worse when he is on the pitch than when he is not. A big Liverpool clearout is expected this summer and the word is they will listen to a serious offer for Núñez.

      And so to Wembley on Sunday and a game that feels – for Núñez and Núñez alone – like a kind of last chance. Núñez may not start the Carabao Cup final against Newcastle. Diogo Jota could easily slot in up front; Díaz has intermittently impressed as a false No 9. At some point, whether it is for 90 minutes or 90 seconds, the skies will darken and Núñez will make his appearance: a one-man forcefield, a player who somehow bends the waves of the game around him.

      He was born into poverty, suffered a cruciate injury at the age of 19 that put him out of the game for a year and a half and convinced him he would never kick a ball again. If there is any kind of vulnerability there, it is one driven by pure hunger, the high-stakes caprice of a man who still expects nothing good to last long, who will make every moment count or die trying.

       There is one metric in which he has significantly improved this season: tackles and interceptions. With his minutes restricted, Núñez has tried to make every single one count. His goals against Brentford, Southampton and Aston Villa have been crucial in the title challenge. And for all the focus on his missed penalty in the shootout against PSG this week, his contribution to Harvey Elliott’s winning goal in the first leg has been almost forgotten.

      Largely, you suspect, this is an issue of personal branding. Signed in the wake of Erling Haaland joining Manchester City, Núñez quickly found himself fitted for the role of talisman, immediately judged by goals and goals alone. Roberto Firmino, the man he partially replaced, went 13 league games without scoring in the 2019-20 title-winning season and it was fine. Núñez has never gone that long without a goal in his life and yet the perception persists – fuelled by a projection of the player people want him to be rather than the player he is – that he is some kind of gilded failure.

        He misses big chances. But so does Haaland, so does Ollie Watkins, so does any striker with the faith to put himself about, to make the right runs, to try. The Premier League has only been collecting “big chance” data since 2010 but in that time the three players with the most big misses are Mohamed Salah, Harry Kane and Sergio Agüero. Maybe we need to chill out a bit about the missing, particularly in a team evidently scoring more than enough for now.

      Is El Chavo del Ocho a comedy or a tragedy? On first viewing, El Chavo is quite clearly a ridiculous comic figure. But, of course, over time, you begin to suspend your disbelief, to invest in the story, to embed yourself in the universe the writers created. He, too, grew up in poverty, was forsaken and ridiculed, and yet despite spending most of his time in a barrel has made himself a viable life, a reason to get up in the morning, a network of friends. For all the mishaps and chaos, the bonds between them endure.

      The real business of any football club is not the pursuit of numbers but the pursuit of memories. Divock Origi is still remembered fondly for the big goals he scored and Sunday’s final offers a similar chance for Núñez to write himself into the club’s folklore. He may have been signed on his numbers, but will bequeath only memories. His Liverpool future may well be beyond his control. But his legacy is not.

      He misses big chances. But so does Haaland, so does Ollie Watkins, so does any striker with the faith to put himself about, to make the right runs, to try. The Premier League has only been collecting “big chance” data since 2010 but in that time the three players with the most big misses are Mohamed Salah, Harry Kane and Sergio Agüero. Maybe we need to chill out a bit about the missing, particularly in a team evidently scoring more than enough for now.

      Is El Chavo del Ocho a comedy or a tragedy? On first viewing, El Chavo is quite clearly a ridiculous comic figure. But, of course, over time, you begin to suspend your disbelief, to invest in the story, to embed yourself in the universe the writers created. He, too, grew up in poverty, was forsaken and ridiculed, and yet despite spending most of his time in a barrel has made himself a viable life, a reason to get up in the morning, a network of friends. For all the mishaps and chaos, the bonds between them endure.

      The real business of any football club is not the pursuit of numbers but the pursuit of memories. Divock Origi is still remembered fondly for the big goals he scored and Sunday’s final offers a similar chance for Núñez to write himself into the club’s folklore. He may have been signed on his numbers, but will bequeath only memories. His Liverpool future may well be beyond his control. But his legacy is not.
       
      https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/mar/15/darwin-nunez-liverpool-turn-laughter-into-legacy
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      I’m saying it now, and I don’t f***in care, Darwin Nunez IS BETTER than Erling Haaland !!

      There, it’s out there now, all I want now is for Nunez to prove it…………..don’t forget…………


      …………..You all heard it here first   ;)  ;D






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      I’m saying it now, and I don’t f***in care, Darwin Nunez IS BETTER than Erling Haaland !!

      There, it’s out there now, all I want now is for Nunez to prove it…………..don’t forget…………


      …………..You all heard it here first   ;)  ;D






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      There you go num nuts in your own words  :lmao:🖕🖕
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      Reply #2418: Mar 16, 2025 04:08:02 pm
      There you go num nuts in your own words  :lmao:🖕🖕



      Must have either pissed or been on the weed 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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      Must have either pissed or been on the weed 🤣🤣🤣🤣


       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: You just had your rose tints on, stop sleeping with them on  :lmao:
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      Reply #2420: Mar 16, 2025 06:36:34 pm
      Another nothing performance from a nothing player who reaps the rewards of what Mo Salah does.
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      Reply #2421: Mar 16, 2025 06:39:06 pm
      Another nothing performance from a nothing player who reaps the rewards of what Mo Salah does.

      So that’s three players you have piled into since the whistle went

      What is it that Mo did today
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      Reply #2422: Mar 16, 2025 06:40:10 pm
      Another nothing performance from a nothing player who reaps the rewards of what Mo Salah does.

      Bullshit. He’s been miles better than Diaz and Jota. No coincidence that when Jota went off we looked better. We get you are mad, but these “hot takes” of yours are funny. 😂
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      Reply #2423: Mar 16, 2025 06:44:26 pm
      At least he pushed the game further towards their own goal today... I know it's not much but it gave us the tiniest of hope.
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      Reply #2424: Mar 16, 2025 06:44:54 pm
      At least he pushed the game further towards their own goal today... I know it's not much but it gave us the tiniest of hope.

      Hindsight etc but prob should have started today
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      Reply #2425: Mar 16, 2025 06:45:22 pm
      Another nothing performance from a nothing player who reaps the rewards of what Mo Salah does.

      At least your little fave starboy Jota managed to look like a footballer today eh?  :lmao:
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      Reply #2426: Mar 16, 2025 06:46:35 pm
      Hindsight etc but prob should have started today
      No hindsight at all, you only have to look on here to see it was the popular option before game for him to start. Newcastle is always going to be too physical for Jota, especially a Jota on 30% charge.
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      Reply #2427: Mar 17, 2025 01:41:13 am
      He should have been on from the start.

      Burn and the other CB tall as F**k and we play a midget up against them!


      He should have been on just for the pure fact to mark Burn at their set pieces!!!
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      Reply #2428: Mar 17, 2025 02:20:01 am
      He should have been on from the start.

      Burn and the other CB tall as F**k and we play a midget up against them!


      He should have been on just for the pure fact to mark Burn at their set pieces!!!

      Think the vast majority thought the same. Either he starts if you are playing with a #9 or Jones does if we play with an extra midfielder. That's based on the performances. And whose display played a massive role in getting us to Wembley? Nunez having run Spurs ragged.

      The Newcastle defenders would have been delighted with the selection of Jota, as no doubt the PSG defenders were when they didn't have to face Nunez from the off. When I saw Jota doing the pre match press conference for the 2nd leg I had hoped it was one of those moves where a player who doesn't start does it.

      Mac on Burn, is there a method to the madness? Must be close to a foot difference in height between them.

      It's been amateur hour over the past week.
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      Reply #2429: Mar 17, 2025 02:37:24 am
      Jota has stunk on ice for a while, and that hurt me to say, as I love the kid, but the truth hurts sometime. But this is Nunez 101. Play poor, miss chances, get slagged off by the manager for poor energy, etc. and then goals dry up and we forget the kid is a donkey in front of goal. We need to figure out goals from up top, but I fear our CF isn't on our team yet.
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      Reply #2430: Mar 17, 2025 07:11:09 am
      Last chance for Darwin Núñez to turn laughter into legacy at Liverpool

       he prevailing sensation while watching El Chavo del Ocho is to wonder how this thing ever got made in the first place. It’s a low-budget Mexican sitcom that ran from the 70s to the 90s, centred on an eight-year-old orphan who lives in a barrel in an apartment complex. The boy is played by Roberto Gómez Bolaños, who was in his 40s when the series began and his 60s when it ended. Pretty much all the humour is derived from slapstick: situational farce, physical jokes, people getting their heads trapped in buckets. That kind of thing.

      Try to imagine ChuckleVision gone global, to the point where it was a genuine cultural touchstone for hundreds of millions, to the point where Paul and Barry Chuckle have a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and are unable to walk through Manhattan without being mobbed. That’s El Chavo. Even today it remains one of the most famous comic creations in the history of television: syndicated across the Americas, enthralling successive generations long after it was decommissioned. Including – at some point in early 2000s Uruguay – a young Darwin Núñez.     

      El Chavo del Ocho (The Kid at No 8) is Núñez’s favourite TV programme. Naturally, I have my own theories about this. El Chavo – whose real name is never revealed – is a clumsy, oversized agent of chaos, often entirely oblivious to the mayhem he creates, pursued wherever he goes by comedy sound effects but possessed of an essential purity, a credulity, a heart of gold and a homespun wisdom that makes it impossible not to root for him, even when he’s doing incredibly stupid things. El Chavo, meet thine real-life avatar. His name is Darwin.

       Often you will hear it said that Núñez divides opinion. In fact the basic outline of Núñez is pretty much a consensus view at this point: entertaining, endearing and erratic, a richly talented player for whom Liverpool paid slightly over the odds, and who probably needs to be replaced with someone more reliable sooner rather than later. We can pretty much all agree on that. In a sense, there is perhaps no player who divides opinion less than Núñez.

      What people are really talking about when they talk about Núñez dividing opinion is his inconsistency. The spectacular finishes, the spectacular misses and the vague whiff of slapstick that seems to follow him wherever he goes. There was a moment during Tuesday’s Champions League last‑16 second leg against Paris Saint-Germain when Núñez out-sprinted Luis Díaz in pursuit of Virgil van Dijk’s long ball, only to remember about the potential offside flag and start running away from it, with Díaz already having stopped. It’s the 81st minute. You’re 1-0 down. And now, for the first time in your life, you decide to worry about offside?

       The orthodox view of Núñez’s Liverpool career is that he is simply a poor fit for what Arne Slot is trying to do: a cat trapped in a grand piano, a maverick in a team seeking immaculate control, of emotions as well as the ball. Virtually all his metrics are significantly down from the Jürgen Klopp era: goals, expected goals, expected assists, key passes, dribbles, touches, shots and shots on target. This season Liverpool perform a goal a game worse when he is on the pitch than when he is not. A big Liverpool clearout is expected this summer and the word is they will listen to a serious offer for Núñez.

      And so to Wembley on Sunday and a game that feels – for Núñez and Núñez alone – like a kind of last chance. Núñez may not start the Carabao Cup final against Newcastle. Diogo Jota could easily slot in up front; Díaz has intermittently impressed as a false No 9. At some point, whether it is for 90 minutes or 90 seconds, the skies will darken and Núñez will make his appearance: a one-man forcefield, a player who somehow bends the waves of the game around him.

      He was born into poverty, suffered a cruciate injury at the age of 19 that put him out of the game for a year and a half and convinced him he would never kick a ball again. If there is any kind of vulnerability there, it is one driven by pure hunger, the high-stakes caprice of a man who still expects nothing good to last long, who will make every moment count or die trying.

       There is one metric in which he has significantly improved this season: tackles and interceptions. With his minutes restricted, Núñez has tried to make every single one count. His goals against Brentford, Southampton and Aston Villa have been crucial in the title challenge. And for all the focus on his missed penalty in the shootout against PSG this week, his contribution to Harvey Elliott’s winning goal in the first leg has been almost forgotten.

      Largely, you suspect, this is an issue of personal branding. Signed in the wake of Erling Haaland joining Manchester City, Núñez quickly found himself fitted for the role of talisman, immediately judged by goals and goals alone. Roberto Firmino, the man he partially replaced, went 13 league games without scoring in the 2019-20 title-winning season and it was fine. Núñez has never gone that long without a goal in his life and yet the perception persists – fuelled by a projection of the player people want him to be rather than the player he is – that he is some kind of gilded failure.

        He misses big chances. But so does Haaland, so does Ollie Watkins, so does any striker with the faith to put himself about, to make the right runs, to try. The Premier League has only been collecting “big chance” data since 2010 but in that time the three players with the most big misses are Mohamed Salah, Harry Kane and Sergio Agüero. Maybe we need to chill out a bit about the missing, particularly in a team evidently scoring more than enough for now.

      Is El Chavo del Ocho a comedy or a tragedy? On first viewing, El Chavo is quite clearly a ridiculous comic figure. But, of course, over time, you begin to suspend your disbelief, to invest in the story, to embed yourself in the universe the writers created. He, too, grew up in poverty, was forsaken and ridiculed, and yet despite spending most of his time in a barrel has made himself a viable life, a reason to get up in the morning, a network of friends. For all the mishaps and chaos, the bonds between them endure.

      The real business of any football club is not the pursuit of numbers but the pursuit of memories. Divock Origi is still remembered fondly for the big goals he scored and Sunday’s final offers a similar chance for Núñez to write himself into the club’s folklore. He may have been signed on his numbers, but will bequeath only memories. His Liverpool future may well be beyond his control. But his legacy is not.

      He misses big chances. But so does Haaland, so does Ollie Watkins, so does any striker with the faith to put himself about, to make the right runs, to try. The Premier League has only been collecting “big chance” data since 2010 but in that time the three players with the most big misses are Mohamed Salah, Harry Kane and Sergio Agüero. Maybe we need to chill out a bit about the missing, particularly in a team evidently scoring more than enough for now.

      Is El Chavo del Ocho a comedy or a tragedy? On first viewing, El Chavo is quite clearly a ridiculous comic figure. But, of course, over time, you begin to suspend your disbelief, to invest in the story, to embed yourself in the universe the writers created. He, too, grew up in poverty, was forsaken and ridiculed, and yet despite spending most of his time in a barrel has made himself a viable life, a reason to get up in the morning, a network of friends. For all the mishaps and chaos, the bonds between them endure.

      The real business of any football club is not the pursuit of numbers but the pursuit of memories. Divock Origi is still remembered fondly for the big goals he scored and Sunday’s final offers a similar chance for Núñez to write himself into the club’s folklore. He may have been signed on his numbers, but will bequeath only memories. His Liverpool future may well be beyond his control. But his legacy is not.
       
      https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/mar/15/darwin-nunez-liverpool-turn-laughter-into-legacy

      The laugh is on us and us only for paying 70m plus for nunez and even more so for putting up with him for 3 fcuking years. And the ones on here who said he was better than haaland. Probably the same ones who said we had enough in jan and fsg are great owners.
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      Reply #2431: Mar 17, 2025 02:43:45 pm
      The laugh is on us and us only for paying 70m plus for nunez and even more so for putting up with him for 3 fcuking years. And the ones on here who said he was better than haaland. Probably the same ones who said we had enough in jan and fsg are great owners.

      The ironic part is that you've replied to the post with the article and obviously didn't read one bit of it.
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