Caoimhin Kelleher Player Thread (GK)

Robbo, VVD and Mane all had EPL experience. They also were players we desperately needed, and only VVD was more expensive than a keeper we're paying good money on someone we don't need, to go and play somewhere else atm.

LFCTV were petrified at the thought of Alisson been absent at the weekend, in the pre match preview show. Then their win % last season was brought up. We had a 80% win rate and unbeaten record in the league with Kelleher last season, compared to a modest 56% win rate without him. Another 24% (or even half that) and we would probably be league champions now.

I never felt more secure this season, and again he delivered another motm performance. It would be great if it was a regular thing rather than an occasional good news story.

First off, I rate Kelleher highly, he is unquestionably a talented keeper. Unfortunately your win percentage figures are vacuous. Only if both keepers played in the same number of games could you get an accurate figure (if K. only played in one game and we won, he would have 100% record).....and even then the level of opponent each keeper faced would be a factor. As for speculating that we would probably be champions had K. played more games again is folly....there are too many variables in that number of games that determine results. 

Caoimhín Kelleher = £50m keeper....

Caoimhín Kelleher = £50m keeper....

I agree with you but don't think we will get that much for him. He'll want to be a starter and therefore will probably go to a club like Celtic or a mid table Premier league team. They will probably not have that much money for a keeper in the PSR influenced transfer market.

Personally, I don't think we should worry to much about maximising profit. He's been a loyal player, done well when asked to step up. I'd prefer to let him go to the club that he wants to play for even if it means that we get a lesser fee. I'd expect £20-30m

Caoimhín Kelleher = £50m keeper....

Easy tiger, eaaaaaasy.

Easy tiger, eaaaaaasy.

Andre Onana: £43.8m with a potential £3.4m in add-ons...
Who would you prefer..?

Put it this way: if Kelleher was a first teamer for say, Villa or Brighton, or indeed a Spanish or German team, and we were looking to purchase him. Would you baulk at a £50m price tag?
There's literally only a couple of keepers better than him in the PL...
Of course, a player is only worth what someone is willing to pay for him...

Andre Onana: £43.8m with a potential £3.4m in add-ons...
Who would you prefer..?

Put it this way: if Kelleher was a first teamer for say, Villa or Brighton, or indeed a Spanish or German team, and we were looking to purchase him. Would you baulk at a £50m price tag?
There's literally only a couple of keepers better than him in the PL...
Of course, a player is only worth what someone is willing to pay for him...

I get that but at the time Onana had been brilliant for Inter and led them to a CL final.

Kelleher will be entering the last 12 months of his contract in the summer & we can't pretend he hasn't been at fault for or could've done better on a number of goals in the limited games he's had.

Look back to Soton in the 4-4 last year, or the 4-3 against Fulham, the 4-3 against Utd in the cup, the 3-2 against Toulouse, the 3-0 loss to Atalanta.
If he was a regular for a mid table Prem club he'd be making double the mistakes over the course of a season and the likelihood is he wouldn't be able to show off his distribution as a lot of these teams don't play out the back the way we do.

Andre Onana: £43.8m with a potential £3.4m in add-ons...
Who would you prefer..?

Put it this way: if Kelleher was a first teamer for say, Villa or Brighton, or indeed a Spanish or German team, and we were looking to purchase him. Would you baulk at a £50m price tag?
There's literally only a couple of keepers better than him in the PL...
Of course, a player is only worth what someone is willing to pay for him...

For whatever reason it’s clear that clubs don’t really fancy Kelleher

If they did we would have got big bids early this summer but instead all we got was Forest trying to do a deal on the cheap on deadline day

He’s a decent keeper but I think his size will hold him back from being world level imo

Has there ever been a small ish keeper at the very top level

They’re all pretty much giants (I’m sure I’m missing someone now)

He’s a decent keeper but I think his size will hold him back from being world level imo

Has there ever been a small ish keeper at the very top level

They’re all pretty much giants (I’m sure I’m missing someone now)

Jordan Pickford. He's a top level keeper and quite small.  ;

He’s a decent keeper but I think his size will hold him back from being world level imo

Has there ever been a small ish keeper at the very top level

They’re all pretty much giants (I’m sure I’m missing someone now)

Strange thing to say. At 6'2" he's not exactly short. How tall was Pepe Reina? Ray Clemence? Dino Zoff? Ollie Kahn?

For whatever reason it’s clear that clubs don’t really fancy Kelleher

If they did we would have got big bids early this summer but instead all we got was Forest trying to do a deal on the cheap on deadline day

He's so good we don't want to sell him, and we don't have to until we have a replacement of similar quality at the club.

So cards on the table whos the better goalie in your opinion at the club?

At most clubs, if you asked fans to choose between a player who has a 80% win rate for their team, or one with a 56% rate in any position, I very much think that the overwhelming majority would prefer the one with the 80% win rate, because it's clearly a better record. Here, it has to be the other way round.

He’s a decent keeper but I think his size will hold him back from being world level imo

Has there ever been a small ish keeper at the very top level

They’re all pretty much giants (I’m sure I’m missing someone now)

Iker Casillas

Kelleher is a world class goalkeeper who has proved himself here whilst winning us trophies. End of chat.

He's so good we don't want to sell him, and we don't have to until we have a replacement of similar quality at the club.

At most clubs, if you asked fans to choose between a player who has a 80% win rate for their team, or one with a 56% rate in any position, I very much think that the overwhelming majority would prefer the one with the 80% win rate, because it's clearly a better record. Here, it has to be the other way round.

Why are you using win rates when it’s very unbalanced

Kelleher has played 16 prem games

Allison 205

Kelleher 49 total games for us

Allison 270

How can you use win percentages when the number of games played difference is so vast ?


How about since Allison arrived

No one else has saved more goals than him

And only one person has had more clean sheets

Kelleher is a decent gk , solid number 2 and would do well at a mid to lower prem team

Kelleher is a world class goalkeeper who has proved himself here whilst winning us trophies. End of chat.

He isn’t world class ffs

Kelleher is a world class goalkeeper who has proved himself here whilst winning us trophies. End of chat.

Not sure how anyone could claim him as World Class to be fair mate

Hasn't played a full season of league football even. He's a very good keeper but far from the level of Allison and those guys just beneath our man.

To be considered as World class he would have to have proven himself at the very highest level game in game out for season after season. It looks unlikely that he'll ever play that number of games for us....and so if he is ever to prove, or disprove his World class status, he probably needs to leave the club. It's just bad luck he's at a club with a far better goalkeeper.

Very decent backup keeper, when Alisson is unfit, to my mind.

Kelleher is a world class goalkeeper who has proved himself here whilst winning us trophies. End of chat.

Don if he was world class he wouldn’t be a No 2. I do believe he’s the best No 2 in the premier league though.

Considering he doesn't get a run of games his form is remarkable

He's so good we don't want to sell him, and we don't have to until we have a replacement of similar quality at the club.

At most clubs, if you asked fans to choose between a player who has a 80% win rate for their team, or one with a 56% rate in any position, I very much think that the overwhelming majority would prefer the one with the 80% win rate, because it's clearly a better record. Here, it has to be the other way round.

Is that with the same games played?

Because the other player you're referring to is World class!!

Now admit how you're completely biased about Kelleher compared to The Holy Goalie!!

Is that with the same games played?

Because the other player you're referring to is World class!!

Now admit how you're completely biased about Kelleher compared to The Holy Goalie!!

Biased? Clueless if you ask me.

To be considered as World class he would have to have proven himself at the very highest level game in game out for season after season. It looks unlikely that he'll ever play that number of games for us....and so if he is ever to prove, or disprove his World class status, he probably needs to leave the club. It's just bad luck he's at a club with a far better goalkeeper.

He came into the team last week cold, and instantly kept a clean sheet. He had to sit it out this week, and (with the other keeper scrambling around on the floor) the clean sheet went with him.

The win rate stat clearly resonates. Of course he would rather play more matches, (he seems to be one of the few who wants more matches these days) but it's not exactly a fair fight, as it would be in other positions on the field. All he can do is help us win as many games as possible when he does play, which like it or not, he did last season. Unfortunately it's not admired or respected, but there's nothing he can do about that.