Summer Outgoings 2017

Mignolet
Moreno
Lucas
Sturridge
Klavan
Manninger
Can
Randall
Markovic
Sakho
Probably missing a few as well.

I've had enough of this lot.

Mignolet
Moreno
Lucas
Sturridge
Klavan
Manninger
Can
Randall
Markovic
Sakho
Probably missing a few as well.

I've had enough of this lot.

Not even St Peter has a list that long. Terrifying yet indicative of our problems.

Not even St Peter has a list that long. Terrifying yet indicative of our problems.

And it reads the same every season.

Good jesus!

Not even St Peter has a list that long. Terrifying yet indicative of our problems.

That's because for the longest time, we have kept buying average players who would look great every now and then but back to being rubbish for the rest of the season. As supporters we try our best to support our own players and that includes forgetting all their past mistakes as soon as they start hitting a good run of games. That's why we keep finding it tough to get rid of the likes of Mignolet or Lucas (or Skrtel or Johnson and the list goes on). With time our standards on player quality have dropped drastically and now most of us would be satisfied with players from other mid-table PL teams.

Coutinho is by far our best player and even he only plays well for half a season or so.

This runs deeper than players or manager. It's all about $$$$ even if everyone tells you otherwise.

OUT:
FSG

IN:
Chinese investment firm

Yeah, I'm pretty much fed up.

Whose written it off?  I haven't

Good for you Harry. 😎 👍

Although here's an observation, for anyone  too thick to comprehend: we definitely wouldn't be looking to the summer (and to be getting rid of players), in January, if we were 13 points clear at the top. 

Mignolet
Moreno
Lucas
Sturridge
Klavan
Manninger
Can
Randall
Markovic
Sakho
Probably missing a few as well.

I've had enough of this lot.

Pretty damping list but right

Good for you Harry. 😎 👍

Although here's an observation, for anyone  too thick to comprehend: we definitely wouldn't be look to the summer (and to be getting rid of players) if we were 13 points clear at the top. 

But surely the points is we aren't 13 points clear

Suddenly everyones sh*t

Mignolet
Moreno
Sturridge

Simply because they are not first teamers, and when they do start, they show why they are not. And don't try to feed my that "Sturridge is world class sh*te" he used to be, now, nope.

Can
Lovren

I hear the squad player thing, but no, it doesn't wash with me. Far too inconsistent to be of use to anyone. I remember the Palace match when Lovren got a goal, and he was loved, but his feck up cost us one to start with. Thank you no, too much of this.

Lucas

He scored against Plymouth, his first goal for SEVEN years! Has played a good couple of games in defence, but like Lovren, fecks up too many times and costs us games.

Get rid of them and we have already set the standards. We want success, we DEMAND it, these players are costing us.

As a plus, get rid of these and it gives us a better idea of who we need to replace them.

Valid points but what has been done in the transfer window.....didly squat

What Jürgen wants:

Julian Brandt
Mahmoud Dahoud

What FSG will get:

Nathan Redmond
Lee Cattermole

But surely the points is we aren't 13 points clear

Er...erm... right... I'm pretty sure that's what I (clearly) inferred buddy and why most sane folk have "written the season" off. 

Obviously not that clearly, says you; eh?   

What Jürgen wants:

Julian Brandt
Mahmoud Dahoud

What FSG will get:

Nathan Redmond
Lee Cattermole

How dare u besmirch the honorable Lee Cattermole 

What Jürgen wants:

Julian Brandt
Mahmoud Dahoud

What FSG will get:

Nathan Redmond
Lee Cattermole

Sad thing is Cattermole would add more fight and leadership than we have, and Redmond has pace and can run with the ball, and could Probably do with both right now, sad times

In:
A World class number 1 GK
A LB who can challenge Milner
World Class CB
A Powerful forward looking and thinking CMF
A quick Poacher Striker
A Target man for a Plan B

Out:
Mignolet – Not good enough
Sakho – burned his bridges
Lucas – better days behind him
Moreno – can’t defend
Sturridge – with his injuries he can’t be relied on.

In:
A World class number 1 GK
A LB who can challenge Milner
World Class CB
A Powerful forward looking and thinking CMF
A quick Poacher Striker
A Target man for a Plan B

Out:
Mignolet – Not good enough
Sakho – burned his bridges
Lucas – better days behind him
Moreno – can’t defend
Sturridge – with his injuries he can’t be relied on.

Would add the following to outgoings:

Can - rubbish
Klavan - not good enough
Bogdan - rubbish
Manninger - why did we even sign him?

We are threadbare to consider any OUTs, nevertheless to offset our expenditure, to find players that suit Jürgen's high pressing style and lose some shitty ones, I think we can safely say Sakho (£15m), Sturridge (£35m), Moreno (£10m), Lucas (Free), Markovic (Free) are definitely going. Flano, Bogdan, Randall, Wisdom would leave for peanuts. I, and everybody here, wouldnt mind letting go one of the crappy GKs. Mignolet is mostly like to warrant a higher fee, probably close to £10m if we are lucky. So that's 10 right there!

We are IN for a huge turnover this summer, especially if the said 10 departures happen. I know the topic said no discussion on potential INs, so I would just stop at saying what we might be needing.

Top Class GK
Center Back
Left Back
Central Midfielder
Attacking Midfielder
Winger
Versatile Striker

But I have no hope pinned on the above list, cos there is no way we are spending 150 to 200 million in one window! Ah, tough times!

With each match it seems the more functional thread would be started with a question of who would you KEEP.

With each match it seems the more functional thread would be started with a question of who would you KEEP.

I'd say with the possible exception of Migs our regular starting 11 will and should stay mate.  Sure we need some of them upgrading, GK, LB, CB and maybe a proper striker if Jürgen decides to go back to a 4231 set up. 

I know people are unhappy with the squad and think it's threadbare already therefore we should only be adding to what we have rather than clearing out and starting again but if those players aren't reliable, consistent or good enough then what's the point.  Most of the players I listed barely play and when they do they get slated for being sh*t.

We've had years of buying on a haphazard, scattergun approach to suit 4 different managers, last season Jürgen decided who he felt he could work with and who needed to go, this summer will be no different but then I expect things to settle down somewhat.  That doesn't mean that I believe the squad will be complete but that the mass overhauls won't be so drastic.

Every squad evolves over time but we're at least 1 more summer off just adding 2 or 3 players to ours.

I'd say with the possible exception of Migs our regular starting 11 will and should stay mate.  Sure we need some of them upgrading, GK, LB, CB and maybe a proper striker if Jürgen decides to go back to a 4231 set up. 

I know people are unhappy with the squad and think it's threadbare already therefore we should only be adding to what we have rather than clearing out and starting again but if those players aren't reliable, consistent or good enough then what's the point.  Most of the players I listed barely play and when they do they get slated for being sh*t.

We've had years of buying on a haphazard, scattergun approach to suit 4 different managers, last season Jürgen decided who he felt he could work with and who needed to go, this summer will be no different but then I expect things to settle down somewhat.  That doesn't mean that I believe the squad will be complete but that the mass overhauls won't be so drastic.

Every squad evolves over time but we're at least 1 more summer off just adding 2 or 3 players to ours.

I'd broadly agree with this, the majority of them would be useful in the squad but almost every single position in our team needs to be upgraded if we are to seriously challenge in the prem, let alone in Europe. A couple of caveats though, these players can all go at the end of the season, Migs, Can, Lucas, Moreno, they are not even useful as backup and certainly not as part of a first XI.

I'd broadly agree with this, the majority of them would be useful in the squad but almost every single position in our team needs to be upgraded if we are to seriously challenge in the prem, let alone in Europe. A couple of caveats though, these players can all go at the end of the season, Migs, Can, Lucas, Moreno, they are not even useful as backup and certainly not as part of a first XI.

Yep they're all on my list as ones I believe will go this summer.

Yes. I really mean who will stay in the starting XI. I've already mentioned the four I would jettison (Can, Sakho, Moreno and Sturridge - plus loan players over 21). but we could stand to upgrade the starting lineup at at least six positions. No question about needing more depth being at cross purposes with unloading everybody - we can't and shouldn't do that.

I'd say with the possible exception of Migs our regular starting 11 will and should stay mate.  Sure we need some of them upgrading, GK, LB, CB and maybe a proper striker if Jürgen decides to go back to a 4231 set up. 

I know people are unhappy with the squad and think it's threadbare already therefore we should only be adding to what we have rather than clearing out and starting again but if those players aren't reliable, consistent or good enough then what's the point.  Most of the players I listed barely play and when they do they get slated for being sh*t.

We've had years of buying on a haphazard, scattergun approach to suit 4 different managers, last season Jürgen decided who he felt he could work with and who needed to go, this summer will be no different but then I expect things to settle down somewhat.  That doesn't mean that I believe the squad will be complete but that the mass overhauls won't be so drastic.

Every squad evolves over time but we're at least 1 more summer off just adding 2 or 3 players to ours.

Yes. I really mean who will stay in the starting XI. I've already mentioned the four I would jettison (Can, Sakho, Moreno and Sturridge - plus loan players over 21). but we could stand to upgrade the starting lineup at at least six positions. No question about needing more depth being at cross purposes with unloading everybody - we can't and shouldn't do that.

Apart from one or two starters they can all be upgraded on mate but if we upgrade our weakest 3 or 4 positions first, push those currently starting to the bench, we can manage with what we have for now.

Before everyone goes apeshit, we'll definitely buy more than 3 or 4.  It'll be at least the 7 we got last summer, possibly a couple more.