Former players you'd sign now.

A bit of a fun topic to take the mind of things but one that might also highlight where our fans see the current team lacking.

Basically if you could go back in time and take 3 ex reds back to 2017 with you who would it be??? I suspect there will be a lot of similar picks and some players won't need explaining.

My 3...Ray Clemence. Don't need to explain that one..

Terry McDermott. A genius player. Smart and gifted on the ball. Great on set pieces and would add tonnes of goal's

Graeme Souness. Leader of leaders something our team seriously lacks. But on top of his leadership and toughness he was a proper player and like his old mate Terry mac he'd chip in with his share of goals

So my team in a 3 4 1 2 would be

.              Clem
Gomez.    matip   lovern

Lallana Terry mac souness Milner

.              coutinho

.        sturridge Firmino

Clemence, McMahon, Rush.

A bit of a fun topic to take the mind of things but one that might also highlight where our fans see the current team lacking.

Basically if you could go back in time and take 3 ex reds back to 2017 with you who would it be??? I suspect there will be a lot of similar picks and some players won't need explaining.

My 3...Ray Clemence. Don't need to explain that one..

Terry McDermott. A genius player. Smart and gifted on the ball. Great on set pieces and would add tonnes of goal's

Graeme Souness. Leader of leaders something our team seriously lacks. But on top of his leadership and toughness he was a proper player and like his old mate Terry mac he'd chip in with his share of goals

So my team in a 3 4 1 2 would be

.              Clem
Gomez.    matip   lovern

Lallana Terry mac souness Milner

.              coutinho

.        sturridge Firmino

You cheating  Brian?....

You got 12 players in your team


Clemence.

Souness.

Torres.

You cheating  Brian?....

You got 12 players in your team


Clemence.

Souness.

Torres.

Ha ha you made me look

Clemo,commanded his box,could come out and claim a ball,if a player was coming at him while he was coming for the ball it was knees up and the player never got near him or the ball.

Souey,could pick a player out anywhere on the pitch,could pass a ball,had a sweet right foot ,never once sh*t out of a tackle & had balls made out of titanium.

Steve McMahon. See above

Clemence , Dalglish and rush

I'll go one better and do some that we'd get under FSG

Doni

Babbel
Pellegrino
Toure
Aurelio

Joe Cole
Zenden
Maxi Rodriguez

Voronin
Fowler (2nd spell)
Jovanovic


All got something in common (I think)

I'll go one better and do some that we'd get under FSG

Doni

Babbel
Pellegrino
Toure
Aurelio

Joe Cole
Zenden
Maxi Rodriguez

Voronin
Fowler (2nd spell)
Jovanovic


All got something in common (I think)

Maxi? Come on....

Maxi? Come on....

Just keeping it cheap free.

Hansen

Rush

Souness

All should be self explanatory...

Just keeping it cheap free.

True dat.

Difficult choosing only three but I'd have:

Reina
Suarez
Gerrard

Best goalkeeper, best forward and best midfielder of the last twenty years.

So:

Reina

Clyne         Matip         Lovren         Milner

Coutinho   Henderson   Lallana

Firmino   Gerrard (c)   Suarez

More than any of them I think we miss Gerrard. Or more precisely, a player that can drag us kicking and screaming through a game when we're not playing well.

Grobbelaar - Could catch and dominate his area (after his early months with the 'clown' tag).  Mountains of character.

Hansen - simply the best CB we've ever had (IMHO) and my god do we need him now.

Dalglish - Simply the best. 

Running them close:  Gerrard (of course), Rush (how we need his goals) and Barnes (the absolute Balearics - could beat any defence and any defender).

I'm amazed how few have said Suarez so far. He is 100% made for this team and how we play and would easily be first on my list.

Next I'd have to get a keeper, I can't say Clem as I haven't seen enough of him and also Reina is of the modern era and is, for me, the best keeper I've ever seen with his feet and quick distribution.

Finally I think we'd all agree that we need a general in the centre of the park, someone who can change games, grip them by the throat and own them. As much as I thought of Digger to get Cou into the centre I think a 25/6 year old Gerrard would transform this side:

                  Reina
    Clyne Matip  Lovren Milner
               Henderson
       Lallana          Gerrard
                Coutinho
            Suarez Firmino

That front 5 is godlike.

I'm amazed how few have said Suarez so far. He is 100% made for this team and how we play and would easily be first on my list.

Next I'd have to get a keeper, I can't say Clem as I haven't seen enough of him and also Reina is of the modern era and is, for me, the best keeper I've ever seen with his feet and quick distribution.

Finally I think we'd all agree that we need a general in the centre of the park, someone who can change games, grip them by the throat and own them. As much as I thought of Digger to get Cou into the centre I think a 25/6 year old Gerrard would transform this side:

                  Reina
    Clyne Matip  Lovren Milner
               Henderson
       Lallana          Gerrard
                Coutinho
            Suarez Firmino

That front 5 is godlike.

The mans a genius best in the world for me at present and obviously would improve us.

But I think if we got other areas right then our front line could thrive. That's why Clem Terry mac and Souness got my call ahead of Luis Kenny rushie etc

Reina
    Clyne Matip  Lovren Milner
               Henderson
       Lallana          Gerrard
                Coutinho
            Suarez Firmino

That front 5 is godlike.

Front 2 more like it. Gerrard and Suarez at their peak are Ballon D'or world class quality players, not even on form Coutinho comes close enough!

Is this what we've come to? The clubs a joke stuck in the past

Karius

Clyne
Hansen
Matip
Milner

Lallana
Gerrard
Henderson

Mane
Coutinho
Suarez

Is this what we've come to? The clubs a joke stuck in the past

It's meant to be a lighten the mood topic but you have cocked that up now 😃

The mans a genius best in the world for me at present and obviously would improve us.

But I think if we got other areas right then our front line could thrive. That's why Clem Terry mac and Souness got my call ahead of Luis Kenny rushie etc

Yeah I totally see your angle mate, just from my perspective Suarez epitomises everything Jürgen would ever want in a player. On top of that he has the ability to be one of the very best (like you I think he is the best) in the world but it's as much about the hunger, desire, will to win and determination than just ability. He'd get so much more out of players such as Lallana and Coutinho, even the likes of Clyne and Milner would develop that level of fear of failure that doesn't exist with us right now. Too many accept that ohhh well it's just another hopeful ball into the box, back to running my socks off etc. Suarez would metaphorically and perhaps literally bite your ear off for the sh*te those two serve up and while some may not like that in the game I think it's exactly what they need from time to time.

Yeah I totally see your angle mate, just from my perspective Suarez epitomises everything Jürgen would ever want in a player. On top of that he has the ability to be one of the very best (like you I think he is the best) in the world but it's as much about the hunger, desire, will to win and determination than just ability. He'd get so much more out of players such as Lallana and Coutinho, even the likes of Clyne and Milner would develop that level of fear of failure that doesn't exist with us right now. Too many accept that ohhh well it's just another hopeful ball into the box, back to running my socks off etc. Suarez would metaphorically and perhaps literally bite your ear off for the sh*te those two serve up and while some may not like that in the game I think it's exactly what they need from time to time.

That's why I've gone for Rush mate.  Sure Luis would do too but Rushy was the epitome of defend from the front, he'd have loved playing for Klopp.

That's why I've gone for Rush mate.  Sure Luis would do too but Rushy was the epitome of defend from the front, he'd have loved playing for Klopp.

Yeah that's fair enough Debs, the '86 cup final was my first vivid memory of a match that drew me to Liverpool and Rush was one of the few players that stood out as being completely ahead of his time to me even then. It's why I found it funny when people mocked Firmino's defensive stats when we've always appreciated the first line of defence at this club.

To me though Suarez just has that aura about him when even the impossible seems possible. I haven't witnessed that outside of Dalglish and Gerrard for us if I'm honest, Digger and Mcmanaman occasionally had hints of it but on such a consistent basis, where it almost became expected, nah Luis for me. That's what makes it fun and interesting though and a good thread to cheer ourselves up with.

Suarez


Mascherano


Gerrard .

Suarez

Mascherano


Gerrard .

Good shout on masch

Gerrolby

Dalgrush

Sounrez

Yeah that's fair enough Debs, the '86 cup final was my first vivid memory of a match that drew me to Liverpool and Rush was one of the few players that stood out as being completely ahead of his time to me even then. It's why I found it funny when people mocked Firmino's defensive stats when we've always appreciated the first line of defence at this club.

To me though Suarez just has that aura about him when even the impossible seems possible. I haven't witnessed that outside of Dalglish and Gerrard for us if I'm honest, Digger and Mcmanaman occasionally had hints of it but on such a consistent basis, where it almost became expected, nah Luis for me. That's what makes it fun and interesting though and a good thread to cheer ourselves up with.

I get what you mean about Suarez and I'd love to see some stats on the matter but Rush as I remember him was more clinical that Luis.  Not as flashy or inspirational but I'd say more clinical and that along with his closing down, pressing, defending from the front for me was a better choice.

I'll go one better and do some that we'd get under FSG

Doni

Babbel
Pellegrino
Toure
Aurelio

Joe Cole
Zenden
Maxi Rodriguez

Voronin
Fowler (2nd spell)
Jovanovic


All got something in common (I think)

Arghhhhh, don't give me nightmares mate!!! :-)  Good God we've had some awful players at this club, you can probably add Can to that list as well ;-)

Anyway my 3 would be Clemence, Souness and Suarez

Arghhhhh, don't give me nightmares mate!!! :-)  Good God we've had some awful players at this club, you can probably add Can to that list as well ;-)

Anyway my 3 would be Clemence, Souness and Suarez

Was Souness really that good? better than Gerrard?

Two to try and shore things up at the back.

One to try and finish off all our possession.

Reina, Hansen, Suarez.

Suarez

Mascherano


Gerrard .

The question was who do we need ... now .

Mascher because he is in my book the top defensive midfielder in the world and has been for some years.

I've gone for Stevie (instead of a top goalie)  for his inspiration and leadership on the pitch again someone we don't have ...now.

                                         Kraius

                   Clyne         Matip         Lovren         Milner
                                     
                            Gerrard (c)   Stewart 
                     
                                    Coutinho
             
                      Firmino      Fowler       Suarez

  hard one this as I wanted to put in Mascherano. Sami, Hansen, Highway, and Carra

I'm amazed how few have said Suarez so far. He is 100% made for this team and how we play and would easily be first on my list.

Next I'd have to get a keeper, I can't say Clem as I haven't seen enough of him and also Reina is of the modern era and is, for me, the best keeper I've ever seen with his feet and quick distribution.

Finally I think we'd all agree that we need a general in the centre of the park, someone who can change games, grip them by the throat and own them. As much as I thought of Digger to get Cou into the centre I think a 25/6 year old Gerrard would transform this side:

                  Reina
    Clyne Matip  Lovren Milner
               Henderson
       Lallana          Gerrard
                Coutinho
            Suarez Firmino

That front 5 is godlike.

If I only had one choice Luis would be it.

If I only had one choice Luis would be it.

Yeah probably agree with that myself.

Ray Clemence,oh I had better stop right now.

Is this what we've come to? The clubs a joke stuck in the past

Don't be such a miserable tw*t. The post is simply to provide a much needed distraction on this forum. 

Well the players would have to fit in with todays team, and so these would be it.

Pegguy Arphexad

Torben Piechnik

Istvan Kozma

They would fit in well with the piss takers we currently have!

We struggle to sing songs for our players today. Nothing like:

'I wanna know how you scored that goal...'
'He's five foot seven, he's football seven...'
'His armband said he was a red...'
'He's big, he's red, his feet stick out the bed...'
'He's big and he's f***in hard...'

No prizes for guessing who they were sung for. We don't sing too many songs for our players in red these days. That isn't indicative of the waning and draining wit in the stands of Anfield, more a case of how lacking in quality, charisma and charm our players are. They lack something more - a sense of togetherness, a sense of identity and I think the crowd at Anfield has known it. Even the most hardcore, optimistic fan will say that the atmosphere at the ground hasn't been tip top for a long time. Despite winning games and scoring goals left, right and centre and being in the title we've never been too far away from a din swamping Anfield as proved by the near toxic atmosphere against Wolves last week.

Seeing us lose so appallingly at the end of Brendan's last full season and then continuing to see our comic like performances at Watford, West Ham and Newcastle under Jürgen only built an indestructible belief that we were witnessing the worst Liverpool team in our lives. That prevailing thought is something that has been impossible to destroy. A heroic, memorable evening against Dortmund and a barnstorming start to the current season has suppressed the belief but in the end, the truth will out. Nothing uncovers that ugly fact better than our 'esteemed' goalkeeper of near 4 years (FOUR F***ing YEARS) dropping a clanger at the feet of the opposition player...again.

Hansen, Barnes, Suarez,  but to be honest, 3 is not enough, I'm looking at 8 or 9, and then I'd look at the bench, and then the crowd followed by the owners, kit manufacturer.......

Reina (in his prime)
Clyne, Carragher,Matip, Risse (an actual LB instead of a RM that wants to be a CM but is now at LB)
Mascherano
Gerrard, Alsonso
Suarez, Torres, Coutinho

Reina (in his prime)
Clyne, Carragher,Matip, Risse (an actual LB instead of a RM that wants to be a CM but is now at LB)
Mascherano
Gerrard, Alsonso
Suarez, Torres, Coutinho

It was pick 3 old players not keep 3 current players 😃

For me it would be

Hyypia
Mascherano
Gerrard

For me it would be

Hyypia
Mascherano
Gerrard

You swine, Ebi, I was just going to say nobody has mentioned Sami. with , Suarez, and Masc, they would all walk into any team.

P.s. I forgot to include Clemence. the best goalie ever.

Reina, Carra and Xabi or Stevie.

If we didn't have such problems in goalkeeping and defence this would be a much easier dilemma but because these problems are so severe I struggle to choose between

We don't lack goals which is why I left out Torres and Suarez.

A new goalkeeper and someone to go alongside Carra would be essential. Carra/Matip would form a dynamic similar to the unbeatable Carra/Sami combo with neither of them having to worry about the man in goal behind them thus compromising their own play (F**k how I miss those days). I cannot decide between Xabi or Stevie - both brought everything to the team. They were the best midfield pair in my lifetime - F**k Xavi and Iniesta!

                                         Kraius

                   Clyne         Matip         Lovren         Milner
                                     
                            Gerrard (c)   Stewart 
                     
                                    Coutinho
             
                      Firmino      Fowler       Suarez

  hard one this as I wanted to put in Mascherano. Sami, Hansen, Highway, and Carra

Stewart?

Stewart?

Sorry just do not rate Henderson, plus the lad would learn from one of the best

Grobbelaar - Could catch and dominate his area (after his early months with the 'clown' tag).  Mountains of character.

Hansen - simply the best CB we've ever had (IMHO) and my god do we need him now.

Dalglish - Simply the best. 

Running them close:  Gerrard (of course), Rush (how we need his goals) and Barnes (the absolute Balearics - could beat any defence and any defender).

My choice too.

Was Souness really that good? better than Gerrard?

To bind the team together, to make it tick, to dominate the midfield, yes he was.



Gerrard was more of an individual who could do the unbelievable, Souness forced matches his way.


If we could have both...

To bind the team together, to make it tick, to dominate the midfield, yes he was.



Gerrard was more of an individual who could do the unbelievable, Souness forced matches his way.


If we could have both...

Couple of pundits have basically come out to say we either need an Alonso or Molby, or if we had Kante, we'd be title challengers/winners, you saying we need a Souness, so what does that say about Henderson in the #6 role?

If's funny, because I think Hendo has been very good for us, but  I actually think if we had Kante or an Alonso type, I reckon we would be challenging still, even with the injuries we had and loss of Mane to AFCON.

Grobbelaar

Arbeola
Hansen
Hyypia
Carragher


Gerrard Captain
Alonso
mascherano

Fowler
Dalglesh
Suarez

I feel guilty for leaving Rush, McManaman, Garcia and Souness on the benched list.

To bind the team together, to make it tick, to dominate the midfield, yes he was.



Gerrard was more of an individual who could do the unbelievable, Souness forced matches his way.


If we could have both...

Souness was never anywhere near Gerrard's quality. Gerrard has more goals and assists per game and he ran with the ball better, defended better. Souness was a great player but not at the level Gerrard was.

Grobbelaar

Arbeola
Hansen
Hyypia
Carragher


Gerrard Captain
Alonso
mascherano

Fowler
Dalglesh
Suarez

I feel guilty for leaving Rush, McManaman, Garcia and Souness on the benched list.

Do you not feel more guilty for spelling Dalglish wrong? 

I see you don't understand the idea of the thread either 

How old are out of interest?  I didn't have you as old enough to have seen Bruce let alone Souey

I don't think this a thread of how many players of past can we fit in.  Because we would have to change the whole team as every position can be bettered from bringing in a player from the past.  We need a goalie desperately.  My choice would be Reina.  My favourite goalie would Bruce.  But for this team Reina at his peak with his ability to improve our counter attack with his distribution.  Anyway with the options we have we could probably choose any goalie from yester years that spent more than a couple of season as a consistent no.1  Dudek, Reina, Grobbelaar bollocks I'd have David James back, yeh I would, even he wouldn't dare hold a ball in his hands for 5 minutes.  Or if he was struggling with crosses give a corner from a goal kick.

For the purposes of our current team I'd go;

Reina - in his prime he was one of the best in the world.

Carra - massively underrated as a defender and a huge personality which this team lacks.

Suarez - think he's absolutely made for this team with his playing style and IMO is the most talented player we've ever had.

If we didn't have such problems in defence and in the sticks I'd go with all my favourites!

Gerrard
Suarez
Fowler

With alonso just missing out!

How about this:

                                          William Molyneux

Tommy Smith         Phil Thompson      Jamie Carragher          Chris Lawler

Ian Callaghan       Steven Gerrard       Terry McDermott         Steve McManaman

                               Robbie Fowler        John Aldridge

Guess what XI this is...

for me it would have to be: John Barnes Ian Rush & Suarez. Now that's what i call a front 3  Easily 100 + goals a season.

Ah well back to reality!!!!

The question was who do we need ... now .

Alan Hansen two times please.

You can keep the change.

John Barnes, he runs directly at defenders, and generally gets past them, he can cross, shoot and take free kicks.

Robbie Fowler, strong on the ball, intelligent, his the bull's-eye when he shoots, and he's Scouse.

Javier Mascherano, it was a toss up between him and Sourness, both tenacious tacklers, a bit if steel in midfield that we,'re missing.

Pepe

Gerrard


Suarez

All familiar with the modern game, however since this is hypothetical I'd have go with

Clem

Kenny

Rush

No need for an explanation!


YNWA

Torben Piechnik
Antonio Nunez
Sean Dundee

Souness was never anywhere near Gerrard's quality. Gerrard has more goals and assists per game and he ran with the ball better, defended better. Souness was a great player but not at the level Gerrard was.

I agree with that Gerrard was the better player overall (though think Souness was the better midfield defender), but still feel that Souness was better in creating a team. He dominated play in a way that Gerrard couldn't, bringing the whole team together, a real captain to steer the ship. Souness set the tempo and made the team tick.

Does Luis Suarez from Groningen, Luis Suarez from Ajax and Luis Suarez from Barcelona count?

If not, then Hansen, Gerrard and Suarez. Could have done with 4 mind, not easy leaving out Pepe to complete the spine.

Hansen, King Kenny , Xabi, Louie, Robbie,Souness, Sami , Masch,  Stevie G ,Carra
 
Shocking thread by the way Im nearly on the phone to the Samaritans

We are talking about peak players, right?
I think today what we are missing the most is a Leader.
Stevie all day. A General on the pitch is what we miss the most
I know hes not the most gifted defender but no one mentioned Carra? Him, Sami or Masche would walk into this spineless team
And id flip a coin between the King and Rush and flip again with Suarez.

In sum we need Balls, Attitude and Class

I would certainly have Kenny, Molby, and former stalwart Ian Callaghan, not forgetting Ray Clemence. After all we have been crying out for a decent 'keeper for at least 2 seasons.

Stewart?
[/quote

He means Paul Stewart....

I first thought this meant players who were still playing that you'd bring back.... anyway based on that I'd bring back:

Mascherano
Suarez
and believe it or not Andy Carroll (I always liked that guy and thought he never got a fair crack, didn't suit Rodgers style but what a player to bring off the bench if a game isn't going you're way, mix it up with the bus parkers)

and from the past:

Hansen
Gerrard
Rush

I will choose players from my era.

                             Dudek
Finnan      Carragher       Hyypia       Riise
                        Mascherano
              Alonso              Gerrard
Lallana                                        Coutinho
                          Suarez

Subs: Reina, Matip, Henderson, Hamann, Mane, Garcia, Fowler

I will choose players from my era.

                             Dudek
Finnan      Carragher       Hyypia       Riise
                        Mascherano
              Alonso              Gerrard
Lallana                                        Coutinho
                          Suarez

Subs: Reina, Matip, Henderson, Hamann, Mane, Garcia, Fowler

Think you've taken a little more than 3 players there mate!

And Jerzy over Reina is outrageous despite Istanbul!

Think you've taken a little more than 3 players there mate!

And Jerzy over Reina is outrageous despite Istanbul!

I loved Dudek so much.
I know. If I'm pushed:
                      Dudek
Clyne       Matip          Lovren       Milner
                        Henderson
              Lallana              Gerrard
Mane                                       Coutinho
                        Suarez

Subs: Mignolet, Gomez, Wijnaldum, Can, Firmino Origi, Sturridge

            Reina

Clyne Carra Hyypia Riise

       Xabi    Masch

Gerrad   Cout  Suarez
 
            Torres

Bench: Dudek,Frim,Finnan,Kuyt,Matip,Milner,