Liverpool v Spurs - Saturday 11/02/17 K.O. 17.30

Going for a win, against all odds, who knows what could happen. Definitely three points needed against Spurs today.

We're more than capable but with our form :/

Did you not watch the match against Hull, why on earth would you start both Can and Lucas?

Lucas comes down to a simple choice between him and Gomez if Klavan and Lovren are both injured and Gomez hasn't exactly impressed since coming back from injury either. Can has his uses in this type of game, however because of the need to take maximum points, Wijnaldum would be the more sensible choice in my opinion.

All these line ups won't make a difference. The key to this is if a goalkeeper turns up anywhere more than the lineup. If we have a statue in goal like most games then I am not confident. You can have Suarez, Messi and Ronaldo, but with an open net you wouldn't even beat a Championship side.

A week break, Mane back, I see hope on the horizon.

Sakho to start for Palace....we have Lucas as our CB. I do hope he was a Cu*t because bombing him out of the club has cost us games

I said that back when we didn't play him. Klopp treating Sakho like that didn't help the team. It is fine saying Sakho would have upset the balance, but Klopp has done just that. I think Klopp took it personally and tried to make a right with 2 wrongs, in the end the fans are wronged so now we have 3 wrongs. That 3rd wrong is Lucas Levia at CB. People may think he does okay, he probably will be for 85 minutes, then kick somebody over in the box needlessly in a panic like always. People will disagree because of short memories. They will see about 3 good passes and forget how many points he and he alone has cost us.

Big big game today felling nervous about the result hopefully we will bring it around but the defence doesn't fill me with confidence, lose this and United will probably go above us and god forbid Everton will only be a three points behind us just hope the right team turns up today

Going by our latest form and the losses at Anfield, it doesn't give me confidence to say that we'll hammer Spuds. A draw will most probably just about there. More importantly is, if I'm Klopp I will make it absolutely clear to everyone that every single player is playing for their future and no explanation is needed if players are shipped out comes end of the season as that's what they deserve over a season for far too many below par performances, one after another that are inexcusable.

Going by our latest form and the losses at Anfield, it doesn't give me confidence to say that we'll hammer Spuds. A draw will most probably just about there. More importantly is, if I'm Klopp I will make it absolutely clear to everyone that every single player is playing for their future and no explanation is needed if players are shipped out comes end of the season as that's what they deserve over a season for far too many below par performances, one after another that are inexcusable.

Every single player playing for their future? Thought we were giving new contracts away like confetti - how can that be motivating

Going by our latest form and the losses at Anfield, it doesn't give me confidence to say that we'll hammer Spuds. A draw will most probably just about there. More importantly is, if I'm Klopp I will make it absolutely clear to everyone that every single player is playing for their future and no explanation is needed if players are shipped out comes end of the season as that's what they deserve over a season for far too many below par performances, one after another that are inexcusable.

Klopp is not that tough to be like that. He came here saying everyone had one year impress him, then handed Migs a 5 year contract. If I were Klopp, Lucas, Migs and Moreno would be LONG gone. Sakho would still be here, I would have a new GK and LB already.

All these line ups won't make a difference. The key to this is if a goalkeeper turns up anywhere more than the lineup. If we have a statue in goal like most games then I am not confident. You can have Suarez, Messi and Ronaldo, but with an open net you wouldn't even beat a Championship side.

I'd sooner start with another attacking player than Mignolet in goal. At least then we'd have eleven players on the pitch.

A week break, Mane back, I see hope on the horizon.

I'm with you there.
Fingers crossed, Klopp and the lads have got some Mojo back.

I'm thinking there's gonna be goals in this game.
Could be s high scoring draw, but I'm hoping we've learned lessons by now. Spuds will wanna go for the win no doubt, but I can't see them parking the bus and countering.
Can't imagine why though, seems to be our Achilles heel.
Hoping we can get the win so going for 3:2 to us.
God knows, we need it !
This could be a very entertaining game for the neutrals, if we turn up in the right frame of mind, but I'd be just as happy with a scrappy boring 1:0 just to get us back on track !
C O Y M RED MEN.

So Arse just beat hull 2:0.
Did they park the bus or was it a different tactic for them ?
Certainly fucks us up, so hoping spuds come with something different

We're more than capable but with our form :/

Got to start winning sometime, although fully see your point of view.

So Arse just beat hull 2:0.
Did they park the bus or was it a different tactic for them ?
Certainly fucks us up, so hoping spuds come with something different

I get your point but have you seen the game? Clattenburg basically played for Arsenal.

there has to be an alternative to lucas......i mean surely....please no.

feeling of dread/anticipation gone for me. if we lose oh well. used to it now. we win who cares. its too late. im not interested in a 'race' for the top 4. 

both teams will run relentlessly. neither will be great. probably finish 1-1. again.

f***in hell, you ran out of pants to sniff, you'd be better off supporting that Shitty wee club across the park,
That's the attitude of a complete no hope pub side,
Get a f***in grip lad, pull yer heid out of your hole and support yer club through thick and thin,
Or don't bother yer arse at all..

F**k sake!!

I get your point but have you seen the game? Clattenburg basically played for Arsenal.

Seemed that way to me as well.

Seemed that way to me as well.

He even apologized at half time that he allowed the first goal to stand then he goes and gives Gibbs a yellow for a last defender foul..ridiculous

He even apologized at half time that he allowed the first goal to stand then he goes and gives Gibbs a yellow for a last defender foul..ridiculous

He seemed to give Arsenal pretty much every 50-50 call, and gave them a couple that just looked ridiculous.

So Arse just beat hull 2:0.
Did they park the bus or was it a different tactic for them ?
Certainly fucks us up, so hoping spuds come with something different

I said before that Hull didn't really park the bus against us and they didn't against Arsenal either. They are a counter attacking team and with a bit more luck and good refereeing decisions I think Hull could have won today. Arsenal were really not that impressive

The scum above is as it stands, gonna be a fecking depressing week if it stays the same by the end of today....

Any team news guys..  Are Lovren Klavan, and Lallana deffo out?

YNWA

A draw isn't enough because we would remain four points behind Spurs and depending on other results we could end up in 6th place three points off the top four.

Arsenal are at home to Hull which you would expect them to win despite Hull taking points off us and the mancs recently. The mancs are at home to Watford which you would also expect them to win. City probably have the toughest game because they are away at Bournemouth but you would still expect them to win.

The pressure is on but it's a must win game. If we lose, Spurs obviously go 7 clear of us and we can't afford that to happen. We need to close the gap on them and drag them back into the dog fight with us.

I've been very critical of our performances of late and I've described some of our players as bottlers. This is the perfect game for them to shut the likes of me up. It's a huge, huge game. A draw is a good result for Spurs because it keeps us at arms length but we HAVE to win, the pressure is all on us.

In those situations this season where we have expected to win or needed to win we have fallen short. It's time to put an end to that starting Saturday.

I expect the team to be:

Karius (mignolet is getting dropped after Hull)

Clyne
Matip
Klavan
Milner

Can
Hendo
Lallana

Coutinho
Firmino
Mane

If things aren't going to plan then hopefully Jürgen changes things much more quickly than usual.

Agree with most of this,except for the part where Can starts ahead of Wijnaldum.Think we'll win this 2-1,whether it will spark a winning run to end the season we'll see