Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal Sat 4th March K.O. 17.30

Next up the gunners massive 3 points to put us back in the mix,their fans no happy with their manager could work in our favour?

One of the games I look forward to most, usually, but I'm less confident than o would've been had we beat Leicester. Any kind of win would do at this stage.

Over for this one, can't wait!

Was expecting the worst with this one after the Leicester humiliation. But, it's my eldest daughters 18th birthday so hopefully a good omen 🤞

Wonder what team will turn up this week... F**k me this is what it has come to...

Top 6 team, we'll  roll them.

We got this, i am very confident of a win.

Not a snowballs chance in hell if we start with the side that started agains Leicester. And with the injuries we have at the mo,  don't see things changing any time soon. I'm saying sh*t to going with the heart, and being devastated 3 games out of 5. I'm going with the head and for the first time i'm going for a loss. 2 - 1 to the Arse.
I may change my mind after I see the team sheet, but as it stands, we don't look like we could win a F***ing argument, let alone a game of footy.   

Was expecting the worst with this one after the Leicester humiliation. But, it's my eldest daughters 18th birthday so hopefully a good omen 🤞

Happy birthday to her, I hope your right, the wrong result will get the alarm bells ringing, but hope you and your fambo have a great day regardless

This game could be anything from a 5-0 win to us to a 3-1 loss it's that unpredictable from 2 teams in poor form.

Not a snowballs chance in hell if we start with the side that started agains Leicester. And with the injuries we have at the mo,  don't see things changing any time soon. I'm saying sh*t to going with the heart, and being devastated 3 games out of 5. I'm going with the head and for the first time i'm going for a loss. 2 - 1 to the Arse.
I may change my mind after I see the team sheet, but as it stands, we don't look like we could win a f**king argument, let alone a game of footy.   

I feel your misery and unfortunately share your sentiments 😞

Happy birthday to her, I hope your right, the wrong result will get the alarm bells ringing, but hope you and your fambo have a great day regardless

Many thanks! I'll try and keep her sober 😆

Ideally would've liked to take her to Anfield, seeing as she hasn't been for a couple of years, but with my bad back, no work means no bunce...

two gutless teams playing each other. should actually be a good game as neither team worries about defending.

great game if you are a neutral.

Both teams in poor form, at least they both cannot lose !

Fingers crossed it will be another spuds performance.  The players really do owe us fans something after a terrible January and an abysmal performance on Monday.

The frustrating this is we were looking pretty good for the first half of the season.

Come on you redmen lets finish the season in style..

Top 6 team, we'll  roll them.

We're a conundrum.  If our record against the bottom six was as good as the top six, we would be competing for the title.  I guess the flip side to that argument is that if our record against the top six was as poor as the bottom six, we would be in the bottom half the table....

We will smash them 7-6 

Petrified of this fixture, regardless of how well we've done against top teams this year, really think the rest of our season is going to be poop.

Hope im wrong as nothing would make me happier than a win!

Not a snowballs chance in hell if we start with the side that started agains Leicester. And with the injuries we have at the mo,  don't see things changing any time soon. I'm saying sh*t to going with the heart, and being devastated 3 games out of 5. I'm going with the head and for the first time i'm going for a loss. 2 - 1 to the Arse.
I may change my mind after I see the team sheet, but as it stands, we don't look like we could win a f**king argument, let alone a game of footy.   

F***ing outrageous isn't it? I am usually a ' give the lads a chance' kind of fan. Right now is the lowest I have been as a fan. These past few weeks have really taken their toll. As it stands I can't see past an Arsenal win, usually by this time of week I'm starting to make my match day plans and getting the little butterflies, but I really can't gee myself up at the moment!

Please reds, for fucks sake give this arl Arse something to F***ing cheer, I am in danger of turning into the blokes who sit behind me!!!!!!

Something to remember before the match:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BSyUIe_1M0


You're welcome.

Easy 3 points this one, no doubt whatsoever that we will in it, its the sh*t teams who will kill our top 4 ambitions.

As it stands I can't see past an Arsenal win, usually by this time of week I'm starting to make my match day plans and getting the little butterflies, but I really can't gee myself up at the moment!

Hate to agree with you but so poor was our performance against Leicester that I just can't see our traditional bounce back in a bigger game.  Hope I'm more positive by kick off time!

Just had a look at some of the pictures from training today.

Lovren back in training but not sure whether this qualifies for Jürgen's rule over the number of days of training?



Couldn't see Daniel Sturridge - surely the lad isn't still out?

If Emre Can starts, it's basically a forfeit.

Hate to agree with you but so poor was our performance against Leicester that I just can't see our traditional bounce back in a bigger game.  Hope I'm more positive by kick off time!

Just had a look at some of the pictures from training today.

Lovren back in training but not sure whether this qualifies for Jürgen's rule over the number of days of training?



Couldn't see Daniel Sturridge - surely the lad isn't still out?

Looks like we might see Harry Wilson on the bench?

Whenever I've expected us to lose this season, we've won. Whenever I've expected us to win this season, we've lost. I expect us to lose on Saturday, so therefore we will win 

4-3-3 for this one as it works perfectly against teams who try and play football.

Mignolet

Moreno
Lovren
Matip
Clyne

Wijnaldum
Lallana
Milner

Coutinho
Firmino
Mane

Win and we still have a hope of top four. Lose and, well, it's all over for me. A draw is no good either.

Come on reds for fucks sake please.

Daniel Sturridge is over his virus!

But he's got a hip strain from a 'rehab' session.

Henderson out, Lovren possible.

Daniel Sturridge is over his virus!

But he's got a hip strain from a 'rehab' session.

He has basically gone on strike, knows his career is finished here

Edit: Actually it's quite believable him being injured in a rehab session 

If Emre Can starts, it's basically a forfeit.

Sadly agree. 

Unfortunately, Klopp doesn't trust any of the youngsters or trusts them enough. Also, this game might be too big for the youngsters and to make too many changes to the team.

I expect the same 11 as Spuds/Leicester. I hope Lucas is put in midfield and Can in defense. Possibly, better positions for the two.

Will we see anything different tomorrow?
Could argue we don't need to cause we've been able to perform so far against the top6.
Maybe. But can we play the same for rest of season?

My starting XI:

        Karius
   Lovren Matip Can
Milner    Hendo     Moreno
   Mane, Coutinho
        Origi

Start Karius. 3 CBs, Can one of them. Milner to right. Moreno in for pace.
No Firmino. No Lucas. No Gini. No Migs. No Clyne.

Starting XI: Mignolet, Clyne, Matip, Lovren, Milner, Hendo, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Mane, Coutinho, Firmino.
Who knows, ^ might work fine.

But would like to see us try something different. In prep for the rest of the season. And to stop me falling asleep.

Daniel Sturridge is over his virus!

But he's got a hip strain from a 'rehab' session.

Henderson out, Lovren possible.

Word on the street is 1 change. Lucas out for Lovren/Klavan.

Not surprising on two fronts. Lucas is no CB and needed to come out and also who the F**k else could come in to the team and boost the team?

I think we can beat these. Could be our only win of the month again, but these are right up our street for beating.

I think we can beat these. Could be our only win of the month again, but these are right up our street for beating.

Not if Can is left with the responsibility of bossing our midfield they're not!
He's gonna get the runaround I think.

Sign of the times sadly not much response to this game only 30 odd posts ,fans really not much bothered just now.

Sign of the times sadly not much response to this game only 30 odd posts ,fans really not much bothered just now.

Yeah seems like all the false dawns have taken it out of the Reds, which to get fair is understandable.

I think despite people wanting to see changes after the horror show on Monday now is not the right time to have a change in formation that we have been playing all season esp against the Arse.

Interestingly their fans reckon that their players are even bigger pussies than ours and are expecting them to get run over.
No doubt Arsenal won't employ the bully boy tactics our softies find hard to face up to so it might come down to simply putting in the hard yards and making it difficult for them esp in midfield to get the ball up to their man Sanchez.

Talking of Sanchez if Lucas starts its going to be carnage considering what Steoptoe did to him. Fingers crossed Lovren is fit.

Despite Firmino's lack of output he does help the team in these sort of games.

Fingers crossed because I reckon we lose this and dreams of Top 4 are over.

Just don't lose you fuckers as the club have run out of good news PR until at least Burnley!

Sign of the times sadly not much response to this game only 30 odd posts ,fans really not much bothered just now.

Going through the motions now of seeing out a dismal season.

Waiting for another 'important summer', which is what this club's all about these days, the football, well...

We have got to beat Arsenal if only to get some pride back in the club.We have had enough bad results since Christmas for this season.

I'm more concerned with our match after this one; vs Burnley

If we beat Arsenal, we leapfrog them into fourth having played one more game and 2 points ahead of them. Says something about or great first half of the season that we've basically imploded yet we are still in with a good chance of making ECL with 12 games to go.

That said I've gone for 2-1 to Arsenal :/

Please can we have Couts in a more central position so much more effective there. Think Origi will get more game time as well

If ever we needed an end to the storm then that time is now , I don't foresee a golden sky  but a bit of pride in the shirt wouldn't go amiss COYR.

Has to be a win this. We turn up against the better teams, and the open flowing football should be enough to see us take our chances and win the game.

Klopp will go for the same team. Hopefully get the win. Then we'll see endless posts about how fantastic our team is. Go on, even Firmino might score a goal and he'll be rated the best player in the league again. 

Anything but a win will be seriously depressing.

Has to be a win this. We turn up against the better teams, and the open flowing football should be enough to see us take our chances and win the game.

Klopp will go for the same team. Hopefully get the win. Then we'll see endless posts about how fantastic our team is. Go on, even Firmino might score a goal and he'll be rated the best player in the league again. 

Anything but a win will be seriously depressing.

A few weeks ago I would have agreed, but even the superfans hit the panic button, and quite rightly too.

I think we will win, or at least crwate chances, but we've always done well in big games, and against open teams.

It's the structured ones we can't get past.

Likely line up

NB: Team no longer available

Then we'll see endless posts about how fantastic our team is. Go on, even Firmino might score a goal and he'll be rated the best player in the league again. 

 

Funny cause it's true.

Can't remember the last 0-0 we had with the lot..
Virtually every game you look back on over the last 15 years has been a high scoring result from both sides and I don't see today being any different..
Despite what a lot of people may think form will go out of the window today and our players will play like the Leicester game never happened.
Arsenal will play an open game with no ale house long balls upfield and throw ins launched into the 6 yd box so providing we stay close to Giroud and Sanchez and don't give away stupid free kicks on the edge of the box we should beat this lot..
Give them space and time and they will punish us...

Knowing our luck right now Giroud could score a hat trick of scorpions at the Kop end ... ha ha

Big game today, great chance to stay in the chase for top 4..

I've gone for a heart stopping 3-2 win....

 

A few weeks ago I would have agreed, but even the superfans hit the panic button, and quite rightly too.

I think we will win, or at least crwate chances, but we've always done well in big games, and against open teams.

It's the structured ones we can't get past.

True enough that most fans have come round to the idea of accepting the problems. Hope that's the end of the bad times..

But in a way, as odd as it may sound, I'd rather see the team get a win with a different lineup and team tactic (e.g. Origi ahead of Firmino), rather than a win with the same team again, as at least that would indicate that Klopp has changed something.

If we win with the same team, I'll still find it hard to believe that going up against the next beatable side will be any different in our recent results.

Finding it a bit difficult to get excited for this one in all honesty.

Finding it a bit difficult to get excited for this one in all honesty.

Know how you feel matey but you will once the game kicks off....

Looking at the table (yep, I still do that) Arse and City (and Utd) have a game in hand on us, so even though it's been a bad run and it's taken it's toll on confidence, this is a massive game in the push for a top4 finish. A draw wouldn't be terrible, be we could really be doing with a win to get right back in the mix.

Still hoping Jürgen changes things up, does something different, cause not sure how we'll break out of this cycle if he doesn't. Personally I could take a draw or even a defeat as long as could SEE that we were trying to be more creative in our approach.

A loss for Arse won't be good news for them either, with their poor enough form and the fans chasing Wenger.  Big game for both clubs, at the 'bottom of the top6' table. CMON BOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!

If we can win this and find a way of beating Burnley, and no I'm not taking the piss it really is a case of finding a way to beat physical teams, then we have Citeh and the bitters who will both play open games I hope. Win all 4 and we should hopefully finally get some bloody momentum again which should lead us into what is on paper a fairly easy run in.
Its absolutely crucial we win today though, even a draw would be ok'ish but a loss would basically F**k the whole season.

Will be a difficult game.

Might scrape a win but likely a draw.

Even if we win the satisfaction will be minimal knowing we will go on to lose against Burnley next week.

We are depressingly predictable.

Big game for both clubs, at the 'bottom of the top6' table.

Pretty fair analysis of what this game currently represents.

Likely line up

NB: Team no longer available

So, as before then! Not sure what to make of that. I am really really worried about Can being in midfield. Personally, I would have Lucas in place of Can. Lucas reads the game better than Can. Neither of them pace though. I also think Milner would be better than Can.

For the 1st time *this* season I am not confident of a result. Even during our January I always thought we would win but today not sure. I am not looking forward to this one.

Gone for the draw, with the two sides in such poor form, but you never know, a win could be on the cards.

Just being a lemming here, mindlessly allowing myself to get excited pre-match, looking forward to watching my team play a game of football. What is wrong with  me? I need to become so much more cynical, to convince myself I don't care about this match and that this side isn't worthy of being so interested.

Maybe GoodFellas will be on the tube instead...

EDIT: OH and I just changed my tip from a draw to a win. I am SUCH a bad supporter.

Ozil out, but not sure if that's a good or bad thing tbh.

Ozil out, but not sure if that's a good or bad thing tbh.

Do you not rate him?

Do you not rate him?

He's pussies out too much in big games for me.

Do you not rate him?

Luxury player away from home, shame he's not playing.

Good result for us with the mancs.

Want a reaction from us today. Win lose or draw show us a F***ing reaction.

Just being a lemming here, mindlessly allowing myself to get excited pre-match, looking forward to watching my team play a game of football. What is wrong with  me? I need to become so much cynical, to convince myself I don't care about this match and that this side isn't worthy of being so interested.

Maybe GoodFellas will be on the tube instead...

EDIT: OH and I just changed my tip from a draw to a win. I am SUCH a bad supporter.

Good for you, you're entitled to be excited for the game.

Just as others are entitled to be cynical after the collapse of our season over the last three months.

Luxury player away from home, shame he's not playing.

Good result for us with the mancs.

Want a reaction from us today. Win lose or draw show us a f**king reaction.

Yes on reaction.

Re the Mancs, only listening here but comms adamant Ibra should have been sent off. Doubt Mourinho will mention that....but good to see another top 6 drop points at home from a lower-table team. BTW, does Jordan Ibe get a game for Bournemouth anymore?

Yes on reaction.

Re the Mancs, only listening here but comms adamant Ibra should have been sent off. Doubt Mourinho will mention that....but good to see another top 6 drop points at home from a lower-table team. BTW, does Jordan Ibe get a game for Bournemouth anymore?

Surprised Ibe didn't come on 2nd half given his pace would have stretched United.

Howe must really not rate him.

Surprised Ibe didn't come on 2nd half given his pace would have stretched United.

Howe must really not rate him.

To be fair if Ibe is worth £15m then i'm worth 5.

Always thought he was useless, but at least he part funded a new yacht for the owner.

Finding it a bit difficult to get excited for this one in all honesty.

Pretty much where I'm at really ,that result & performance monday really knocked the stuffing out of many a red including all of us on here.
I just hope to F**k they all get a grip of themselves from now until the end of the season ,get your heads straight & your arses in gear redmen.
Going for 2-1.

Is Lovren fit?

I won't create the live thread so to have the same result as we had with Tottenham. Come on Reds, we can do this with the right attitude.

YNWA

Is Lovren fit?

Not my cup of tea, but Alexandra Daddario on the other hand...

First15 mins of this game absolutely crucial

To be fair if Ibe is worth £15m then i'm worth 5.

Always thought he was useless, but at least he part funded a new yacht for the owner.

Absolutely, I'd say when our guys got the check for 15mill they legged it as fast as the good cause it would've felt like a crime.

First15 mins of this game absolutely crucial

Would like one of our lads to give someone a kick straight off,a la F***ing Steptoe.Watching this one at home after the leicester shitshow and it's  below freezing out.

I'm expecting absolutely f**k all from this.

The more I think about it the more I get pissed off...

- Milner left back
- Lucas centre back
- Sturridge outcasted
- Sakho fu**ed off
- Can getting game time
- dogshit between the sticks

What the f**k happened to us? Sitting here chatting to my pals about Benitez and the team he had. All about defending well together as a team yet now we ship goals left right and centre. It's a guarantee that Arsenal will score.

Sorry for the rant but this season has been cruel, unreal first half and relegation form second half.

I'm expecting absolutely f**k all from this.

The more I think about it the more I get pissed off...

- Milner left back
- Lucas centre back
- Sturridge outcasted
- Sakho fu**ed off
- Can getting game time
- dogshit between the sticks

What the f**k happened to us? Sitting here chatting to my pals about Benitez and the team he had. All about defending well together as a team yet now we ship goals left right and centre. It's a guarantee that Arsenal will score.

Sorry for the rant but this season has been cruel, unreal first half and relegation form second half.

Sakho shouldn't be in that list, he brought everything on himself.

This lot have as little bottle as we do. We will beat them because we always turn up for the big games which is infuriating.

Just F***ing win.