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      Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)

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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #650: Aug 30, 2017 08:48:13 pm
      Got the Ox but most of us want dat bell cow (VVD)

      All jokes aside I like the deal. Lack of depth is something that really hurt last winter, and I think we needed to get a utility player like Ox who can fill multiple positions in lower tourney and league games and for injury and rest purposes. He is also a guy who seems due for an upgrade of performance with the right system and coach. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he blossomed here. He has nice speed, plays with a real strong low center of gravity when taking on defenders, and is a decent defender. Though Lemar would have been more valuable to the club the Ox will be more valuable to the squad. Still hope we get Lemar, though the priority at this point should be on VVD.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #651: Aug 30, 2017 08:56:15 pm
      He wanted to come here.
      That'll do for me.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #652: Aug 30, 2017 08:57:40 pm
      What are they? 'cause all I've been reading is that he's been poor because he's being "played OUT of position".

      How can someone, who's big attraction is that he's versatile, be so unlucky in so many roles? 😂

      Joking aside tho... where will he play? 🤔

      He has played in pretty much every single position other than goalkeeper and CB for Arsenal. It's hard for a young player to really shine or develop when the manager sees you as an utility player. I thought that whenever he did play, and most pundits agreed with that, he always played well only to be back on the bench the game after. There's a reason he desperately wanted to leave Arsenal, Wenger just doesn't know how to use him and that has to be really frustrating for a young player. He didn't have a nailed on position to focus on, pretty much the same situation as Can, who is only now starting to settle in that midfield role.

      He IS versatile, he can play the Lallana role and he can play as a winger either on the left or the right. There's a massive difference in mindset when starting as a wingback or a winger who has to help his fullback out. As a wingback your mindset is primarily to defend and to get in advanced positions when possible.

      I see him as the understudy to Lallana first and foremost and as an option on the wings when / if Mane and Salah need a rest.

      What hidden stats have Klopp and his team seen?

      The stats aren't hidden at all, they are there for everyone to see. He's one of the best in the league for penetration in the box, touches in the box, dribbles, receiving the ball in tight areas, ... He will be the one receiving the ball and getting others into play, which is why his (admittedly) below average output with regards to goals isn't a problem, we have plenty of goalscorers. We need players able to pull the opposition players out of position when playing against low blocks and Alex's stats with regards to these qualities are amongst the highest in the league. He has a very big range of passing too, his passing is a lot better than people think. Essentially he's a pacey Lallana. Look at this vid with some of his highlights. It focuses on the qualities he has and that he will need in the position he's going to play for us.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=78&v=950Zlhqn6Io

      He'll get plenty of game time too, all it takes is an injury to Henderson or Lallana, for us to have only 3 or 4 options in the attacking midfield positions. With the amount of games we'll be playing, he'll be playing a lot.

      Look at him physically.. Klopp will look at him get his arm around him I training like Wenger hasn't and historically doesn't and say to him, you can be the best in the world, you can do what he does, what he does..
      Watch Mane and Salah in training, look how they utilise their pace, look where they position themselves.. Look how we play to exploit that...

      I fully agree. Get him on the training pitch with the likes of Lallana, Salah and Mane. Have him focus on his strenghts and one or two positions. He'll thrive under Klopp's management and in the way our team plays.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #653: Aug 30, 2017 09:07:09 pm
      Essentially he's a pacey Lallana.

      I was looking at some of his stats earlier and trying to find which player of our current squad he's most similar to - and my conclusion was Adam Lallana, so it's interesting to see you describe Ox as a pacy version of Adam.

      Chamberlain may not be the world beating exciting signing that many of us wanted, but what makes me really confident about it is that Klopp really seems to have been after him for a while now, so he definitely sees something he likes in the player.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #654: Aug 30, 2017 09:08:52 pm
      Got the Ox but most of us want dat bell cow (VVD)

      All jokes aside I like the deal. Lack of depth is something that really hurt last winter, and I think we needed to get a utility player like Ox who can fill multiple positions in lower tourney and league games and for injury and rest purposes. He is also a guy who seems due for an upgrade of performance with the right system and coach. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he blossomed here. He has nice speed, plays with a real strong low center of gravity when taking on defenders, and is a decent defender. Though Lemar would have been more valuable to the club the Ox will be more valuable to the squad. Still hope we get Lemar, though the priority at this point should be on VVD.

      VVD ain't coming. We are going to play with midfielders and forwards only. Who needs defenders. ;)

      Now that Ox is here, Milner will be a backup CB. So, Milner will be like a new signing.
      « Last Edit: Aug 30, 2017 09:13:04 pm by RobieSlick »
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #655: Aug 30, 2017 09:21:53 pm
      He'll be a different player with a new attitude once he pulls that Red shirt on....
      Wouldn't be surprised if he goes straight in against Man Shitty.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #656: Aug 30, 2017 09:24:46 pm
      All about depth I think.

      The market two years ago and he's a £15 million squad option. Now it seems £35 million is the new £15 million.

      I agree it's about depth - but still - he's going to have to pull up some trees as a squad player to make that look like a bargain when he could have come for free in 10 months time.
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      Reply #657: Aug 30, 2017 09:29:22 pm
      I agree it's about depth - but still - he's going to have to pull up some trees as a squad player to make that look like a bargain when he could have come for free in 10 months time.

      F**k next year. It's about this year...

      4 competitions and we want to win them all.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #658: Aug 30, 2017 09:34:35 pm
      F**k next year. It's about this year...

      4 competitions and we want to win them all.

      Agree Landan  ;D
      After this arsewipe of an International break we've got six games in three weeks covering three different competitions including two on the bounce away at Leicester.. We'll need the OX good style in amongst the mix !
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      Reply #659: Aug 30, 2017 09:35:27 pm
      Bob Wilson says 'It's not good for Arsenal and I'm not quite sure it's the best move for Alex himself'

      Yeah...because working for Klopp is one hell of a wrong turn.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #660: Aug 30, 2017 09:36:27 pm
      After this arsewipe of an International break we've got six games in three weeks covering three different competitions including two on the bounce away at Leicester.. We'll need the OX good style in amongst the mix !

      Gonna take longer than 3 weeks to uncoach the Wenger out of him.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #661: Aug 30, 2017 09:42:27 pm
      "uncoach the Wenger out of him."

      My favourite phrase of the window.

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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #662: Aug 30, 2017 09:47:41 pm
      Gonna take longer than 3 weeks to uncoach the Wenger out of him.

      Dya reckon?... ???
      He's a quality proven individual who I'm pretty certain will obey the Klopp laboratory scientists from the word go unlike that chaotic set up at Arsenal right now..
      Don't forget Jurgens had his eye on him for most of this year so he obviously has an immediate role set ready for him in the squad.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #663: Aug 30, 2017 10:06:26 pm
      Gonna take longer than 3 weeks to uncoach the Wenger out of him.
      ahh wenger was inside of him, explains why he was running around the pitch like C3PO.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #664: Aug 30, 2017 10:06:39 pm
      He wanted to come here.
      That'll do for me.

      And took a pay cut along the way - he turned down £180k a week, to join us for £125k a week
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #665: Aug 30, 2017 10:08:38 pm
      And took a pay cut along the way - he turned down £180k a week, to join us for £125k a week

      A true gent
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      Reply #666: Aug 30, 2017 10:10:14 pm
      And took a pay cut along the way - he turned down £180k a week, to join us for £125k a week

      Also turned down £220k a week to Chelsea. That is beyond commendable, that deserves massive respect and appreciation. In the day and age of greed ruling so many decisions, while of course £120k a week is hardly chump change, to take £100k a week pay cut to follow your dream and join our club impresses me massively.

      Career over pocket, dream over greed, well played fella.

       :gt-happyup:

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      Reply #667: Aug 30, 2017 10:11:31 pm
      Also turned down £220k a week to Chelsea. That is beyond commendable, that deserves massive respect and appreciation. In the day and age of greed ruling so many decisions, while of course £120k a week is hardly chump change, to take £100k a week pay cut to follow your dream and join our club impresses me massively.

      Career over pocket, dream over greed, well played fella.

       :gt-happyup:



      I wonder if he knows he is not getting the #8 shirt....
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #668: Aug 30, 2017 10:13:22 pm
      I wonder if he knows he is not getting the #8 shirt....

      He can keep it warm for a season.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #669: Aug 30, 2017 10:16:10 pm
      His World Cup squad chances stand a much better chance playing alongside Hendo, Studge and Lallana week in week out with TAA tucked in behind him aswell  ;)
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #670: Aug 30, 2017 10:22:06 pm
      F**k next year. It's about this year...

      4 competitions and we want to win them all.

      If it's about this year why are we waiting to sign Keita?  :f_tongueincheek:
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      Reply #671: Aug 30, 2017 10:30:08 pm
      He wanted to come here.
      That'll do for me.

      Yes he did and hes a Liverpool fan .

      One thing that has spoken volumes in this age of the Sterlings etc and that is ...the Arse have just offered him a 180k a week contract which he rejected to come to us for 120 k a week.  That is serious money to give up.
      He can see something with us that he couldn't see going forward with Wenger and The Arse .
      Serious, serious money is the alleged 220k a week offer from the Chavs.

      That has to be in the front of our minds.

      I agree it's about depth - but still - he's going to have to pull up some trees as a squad player to make that look like a bargain when he could have come for free in 10 months time.

      He is .
      He is going to be out there to prove himself this season and get off to a flyer.

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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #672: Aug 30, 2017 10:33:11 pm
      Is Ox a starting caliber player like Salah?

      Looks like we got him....
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
      Reply #673: Aug 30, 2017 10:33:46 pm
      Everything that I want to say has already been said except welcome on board. Is that a done deal? Like the lad. We have fire power on the left and right and now more thrust from the middle. Opposition defenders will have their hands full this season coming up against us. Like the lad very much and he will do well in his original position.
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      Reply #674: Aug 30, 2017 10:34:50 pm
      Is Ox a starting caliber player like Salah?

      No.

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