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      Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)

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      stuey
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #30: Apr 15, 2017 09:52:02 am
      Apparently Van Dijk is top of our wanted list with a £50m price tag.

      https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/liverpool-put-50m-van-dijk-top-of-wanted-list-clg00sfx5
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #31: Apr 15, 2017 02:17:11 pm
      £50m! :lmao:
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #32: Apr 15, 2017 02:22:42 pm
      20m plus Sakho would be good.
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #33: Apr 15, 2017 02:27:10 pm
      Isn't he currently injured?

      One thing I don't want is anymore injury plagued players. We need guys that play every week.

      Availability is the best ability sometimes.
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #34: Apr 15, 2017 02:42:38 pm
      Isn't he currently injured?

      One thing I don't want is anymore injury plagued players. We need guys that play every week.

      Availability is the best ability sometimes.

      He's not injury plagued though.

      He missed 7 games for Groningen because of an appendectomy, he missed 1 game for Celtic through injury so this makes it the first season in his career where he's missed a big chunk of games because of an actual injury.
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      Reply #35: Apr 15, 2017 05:10:48 pm
      If you were Van Dijk and had no preferred premier League team (you supported no team in particular) and had the chance to sign for Chelsea, Man City Both have which has won the Premier league in the last 4 years, both of which are regulars in the CL (City five times in the last five years and Chelsea 13 times in the last 16 years), both of which will pay you massive wages; or Liverpool which have not won the title in 25 years ago, have been in the CL eight times in 16 years and struggle to do so, and would pay a little above average wage Who would you sign for...? I'll give you a clue, It's not Liverpool
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      Reply #36: Apr 15, 2017 07:34:56 pm
      If you were Van Dijk and had no preferred premier League team (you supported no team in particular) and had the chance to sign for Chelsea, Man City Both have which has won the Premier league in the last 4 years, both of which are regulars in the CL (City five times in the last five years and Chelsea 13 times in the last 16 years), both of which will pay you massive wages; or Liverpool which have not won the title in 25 years ago, have been in the CL eight times in 16 years and struggle to do so, and would pay a little above average wage Who would you sign for...? I'll give you a clue, It's not Liverpool

      F**k me, you're a real bundle of optimism!!
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      Reply #37: Apr 15, 2017 09:06:56 pm
      F**k me, you're a real bundle of optimism!!
      No... just a realist
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #38: Apr 15, 2017 11:57:19 pm
      He would most likely be an immediate starter, but it's not like he's the only CB that could help out team. 50m seems ridiculous to me but it's not my money.
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #39: Apr 16, 2017 12:08:47 am
      We give them sakho plus £10m. That would do me.
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      Reply #40: Apr 16, 2017 08:21:04 am
      If you were Van Dijk and had no preferred premier League team (you supported no team in particular) and had the chance to sign for Chelsea, Man City Both have which has won the Premier league in the last 4 years, both of which are regulars in the CL (City five times in the last five years and Chelsea 13 times in the last 16 years), both of which will pay you massive wages; or Liverpool which have not won the title in 25 years ago, have been in the CL eight times in 16 years and struggle to do so, and would pay a little above average wage Who would you sign for...? I'll give you a clue, It's not Liverpool

      Lallana, Firmino, and Clyne all choose us over Utd, Milner could've stayed at City and Mane was happy to come to us. I don't think he would point blank turn us down, but if if came to a bidding war then we'd be screwed.
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      Reply #41: Apr 16, 2017 08:23:30 am
      So according to the poll there are people that actually think we would go head to head with another team to sign him! Where have you all been for the last 7 years? FSG don't do bidding wars ffs.
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      Reply #42: Apr 16, 2017 08:55:29 am
      So according to the poll there are people that actually think we would go head to head with another team to sign him! Where have you all been for the last 7 years? FSG don't do bidding wars ffs.

      I voted purely based on hope rather than expectation :D
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      Reply #43: Apr 16, 2017 09:24:45 am
      So according to the poll there are people that actually think we would go head to head with another team to sign him! Where have you all been for the last 7 years? FSG don't do bidding wars ffs.

      Out of interest how many bidding wars have we actually lost recently where we competed with another team for a signature. I can only really think of Sanchez and Arsenal. As a player I would think that playing for Liverpool and working under Klopp in fornt of an adoring world famous fan support must be a very attractive option, I would also relish the challenge of bringing success back to a sleeping giant.
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #44: Apr 16, 2017 09:33:37 am
      So according to the poll there are people that actually think we would go head to head with another team to sign him! Where have you all been for the last 7 years? FSG don't do bidding wars ffs.

      FSG don't do bidding wars and the £50m price tag is a white flag job.
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      Reply #45: Apr 16, 2017 10:01:19 am
      Out of interest how many bidding wars have we actually lost recently where we competed with another team for a signature. I can only really think of Sanchez and Arsenal. As a player I would think that playing for Liverpool and working under Klopp in fornt of an adoring world famous fan support must be a very attractive option, I would also relish the challenge of bringing success back to a sleeping giant.

      I can't remember a single player we bought after a bidding war. Some players reportedly choose us over other teams, but I don't remember is out bidding anyone.
      I do believe we could get him, but we'd need to tie it up quickly, Southampton might drag it out though to get the best price.
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      Reply #46: Apr 16, 2017 10:08:33 am
      I voted purely based on hope rather than expectation :D

      I think a better question would've been, "Are we interested in signing him for the right price?".
      But the whole going head to head thing doesn't stand up for me. But Foote what its worth I would spend what it takes, because plugging u are leaking defence could be the difference between a title challenge or not.
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #47: Apr 16, 2017 10:38:55 am
      I think a better question would've been, "Are we interested in signing him for the right price?".
      But the whole going head to head thing doesn't stand up for me. But Foote what its worth I would spend what it takes, because plugging u are leaking defence could be the difference between a title challenge or not.

      I'd imagine we'd sign anybody from a huge group of players if they were available for the right price.

      I think if he was the final piece of the jigsaw for our defence then I'd spend whatever it took but he'd be far from the final piece. We'd still need a top keeper and a left back.
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      Reply #48: Apr 16, 2017 10:42:11 am
      I'd imagine we'd sign anybody from a huge group of players if they were available for the right price.

      I think if he was the final piece of the jigsaw for our defence then I'd spend whatever it took but he'd be far from the final piece. We'd still need a top keeper and a left back.

      I agree, but a commanding CB would make a huge difference.
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      Reply #49: Apr 16, 2017 11:00:29 am
      Lallana, Firmino, and Clyne all choose us over Utd, Milner could've stayed at City and Mane was happy to come to us. I don't think he would point blank turn us down, but if if came to a bidding war then we'd be screwed.
      People always think that the club who offers the most money gets the player... A club looks for a certain amount for the player (What they think he is worth).... If two club  bid that amount let's say £40m the parent club then gives the other two club permission to speak to the player... One Club may bid more that the other (Maybe hoping the other may withdraw from the process, or to show the player that they value him more than the other club) but it still does not mean the one bidding the most money gets the player... example in question; Kaka ( Ricardo Izecson dos Santos Leite) then playing for AC Milan was a subject of a transfer battle between Chelsea and Real Madrid. It was reported on Sky Sports News that Chelsea had offer AC Milan £72.3m for Kaka while Real had only offered £56.8m...Both bids had been excepted by AC and the clubs were allowed to talk to the player... Kaka chose to sign for Real, the rest is history... Could have been a few reason why he chose Real,The weather, life style, or maybe the personal term Real offered him was better... point being the money offered just allows you to speak to the play and maybe strokes his ego saying how much you value him...

      Has for Lallana, Firmino and Clyne did we really have that much competition to sign them...? Milner was not getting the game time with City and there was a world cup coming up
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      Reply #50: Apr 16, 2017 11:16:54 am
      I agree, but a commanding CB would make a huge difference.

      No doubt mate.
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      Reply #51: Apr 16, 2017 11:32:52 am
      Out of interest how many bidding wars have we actually lost recently where we competed with another team for a signature. I can only really think of Sanchez and Arsenal. As a player I would think that playing for Liverpool and working under Klopp in fornt of an adoring world famous fan support must be a very attractive option, I would also relish the challenge of bringing success back to a sleeping giant.
      That maybe true for us;The supporters, for the players with their agents and manager banging away in their heads saying things like " You only have a short time to be successful in this game.Win thorphies, make your money, set yourself up for life after football,some 8-10 years before you are on the decline... You maybe a boyhood Liverpool supporter but Man Utd will guarantee you that success and money to set you up for the rest of your life" ...It must be extremely hard for our young player, watching players like Gerrard; probable the must loved and respected Liverpool player of all time, who gave his heart and soul to the club he loved and got so very little in the way of success back, could have won a lot more at Chelsea and been paid better for it...If I was a Agents looking for my cut of any  big transfer I would be using the Steven Gerrard decision as a precautionary tale and point out;  Was not Wayne Rooney a boyhood Everton fan?...

      What I am saying is that it makes it hard for a club to sign a player when you also have the players Agent work in his best interest looking to increase his cut, and often against the players interest,As in the case of Emmanuel Adebayor and his agents (His Borthers) and extra hard when the club is trying to do things on the cheap
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #52: Apr 16, 2017 12:16:29 pm
      I can't remember a single player we bought after a bidding war. Some players reportedly choose us over other teams, but I don't remember is out bidding anyone.
      I do believe we could get him, but we'd need to tie it up quickly, Southampton might drag it out though to get the best price.

      I think Sahin chose us, when it looked like he was going to Arsenal.
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #53: Apr 17, 2017 10:33:55 pm
      We'll match anyones bid, and I mean absolutely anyones no matter what it is, then offer him 50K a week. Then it'll be "we couldn't get it over the line/his wife preferred Manchester or London or whetever it is. We tried our best though".

      This is where you heard it first.

      Funny theres now talk about Sanchez wanting a move up 't grimy North  to City .
      Thats why he turned us down ...... for the lights of the smoke wasn't it Mick?
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      Reply #54: Apr 17, 2017 10:56:56 pm
      Funny theres now talk about Sanchez wanting a move up 't grimy North  to City .
      Thats why he turned us down ...... for the lights of the smoke wasn't it Mick?

      It was because his Mrs wanted the London life, the same Mrs that parted ways with him soon after.

      Perhaps now his new Mrs wants away from the London life :D

      I've no idea but if we were to pay through the nose for anyone then Sanchez would be near the top of my list. He's not Suarez but he's about the nearest none lunatic version we could find.
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      Reply #55: Apr 17, 2017 11:21:48 pm
      It was because his Mrs wanted the London life, the same Mrs that parted ways with him soon after.

      Perhaps now his new Mrs wants away from the London life :D

      I've no idea but if we were to pay through the nose for anyone then Sanchez would be near the top of my list. He's not Suarez but he's about the nearest none lunatic version we could find.

      I laughed to myself at the bit in bold :D.

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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #56: Apr 17, 2017 11:27:23 pm
      He's not Suarez but he's about the nearest none lunatic version we could find.
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      Even though Luis is a nutter to me he was always came off as a nice fellow IRL that was just a bit off when he set foot on a football pitch (genius is a fine line with madness  etc..)  Sanchez comes off to me like talented pr**k in the Ronaldo mold without the same skills.
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #57: Apr 18, 2017 12:06:50 am
      Paul Joyce so, maybe the club has leaked to him because we're interested or they just want it to look like we are.

      Poll added for a laugh.

      https://twitter.com/TimesSport/status/852666460929261568

      Sakho is worth 50 Million, so...
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #58: Apr 18, 2017 12:12:11 am
      I laughed to myself at the bit in bold :D.



      :D

      Even though Luis is a nutter to me he was always came off as a nice fellow IRL that was just a bit off when he set foot on a football pitch (genius is a fine line with madness  etc..)  Sanchez comes off to me like talented pr**k in the Ronaldo mold without the same skills.

      Yeah I totally agree off the pitch Luis seems a gentle soul to be fair to him, gets all that agression off while on it I suppose. Never thought of Sanchez in the Ronaldo mould to be honest, to me he's much more a team player than CR7wat but I could be wrong on that.
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #59: Apr 18, 2017 09:08:47 am
      Thats why he turned us down ...... for the lights of the smoke wasn't it Mick?
      That was the excuse... we do like an excuse come transfer time.

      Your cut out and keep guide:
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      * We don't have the money. 😂
      * You can't attract top players without CL football. 😕
      * We haven't had CL football for long enough. 😕
      * His agent was only looking for a new contract and was using us. 😊
      * The manager [previous manager obviously] hadn't the clout to attract him.😕
      * Ian Ayre. No, wait... hmm.😄
      * He wanted to go to that London for the shopping. 😂
      * I never rated him anyhow and _ _ _ _ _ was a better signing anyway.😞
      * He was too greedy - we only want players who want to be here anyhow... na, na, na, na, na, so there. 😝
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