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      UK General Election June 2017

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      UK General Election June 2017
      Apr 18, 2017 11:20:48 am
      General election to be called for 8 June. Needs to overturn Fixed Terms Parliament Act tomorrow for it to happen.

      Would rather have had war with North Korea.
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      Re: UK General Election June 2017
      Reply #1: Apr 18, 2017 12:24:36 pm
      Going to be the most one-sided election since 1997.  Probably a similar kind of landslide.  Although... been some pretty mad voting results in recent times...
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      Reply #2: Apr 18, 2017 12:54:18 pm
      Lib Dems to gain the protest vote.

      They would be appealing to some, and many Labour voters I suspect. Only problem with them is, they want a referendum on the final Brexit deal.  ;D That really cannot happen going into these negotiations because if it did, the EU would use that Achillies heel and take a knife to it in negotiations.

      May's opportunist. And Corbyn's stint as leader of the opposition has probably just been shortened by 3 years.


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      Reply #3: Apr 18, 2017 01:22:16 pm
      I voted for Brexit purely as I wanted Cameron and Osbourne gone! I would like to stay in the EU too. Will be voting Lib Dems like 49% of the country.
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      Reply #4: Apr 18, 2017 01:24:29 pm
      Lib Dems to gain the protest vote.

      They would be appealing to some, and many Labour voters I suspect. Only problem with them is, they want a referendum on the final Brexit deal.  ;D That really cannot happen going into these negotiations because if it did, the EU would use that Achillies heel and take a knife to it in negotiations.

      May's opportunist. And Corbyn's stint as leader of the opposition has probably just been shortened by 3 years.
      Brexit probably won't happen under Lib Dems, although if there is a Frexit there will be no point in staying in EU. I suspect the French Election will have an effect on Lib Dem support here.
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      Reply #5: Apr 18, 2017 01:42:54 pm
      If the strategy has been judged right it will see the end of Corbyn. On the downside; we will have to listen to that wishy washy dick, who leads the Lib Dems, an awful lot more, for the next 6 weeks. 😭
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      Reply #6: Apr 18, 2017 01:50:38 pm
      I may be overly worrying here but a rapidly called cabinet meeting for half past ten and half an hour later she's outside announcing an election in six weeks.

      Shortly followed by the backing of all parties even though the tories are miles ahead in the (conveniently carried out) recent polls.

      I'm not buying that it's got anything to do with brexit.

      It just stinks of impending f**king doom.

      I hope I'm wrong.

      Seriously worried about Labour. Hoping they can mitigate the damage but it will be very hard for them. You look at what has happened to Labour parties on the continent in recent elections like the Netherlands and see how big a problem leftist/social democratic parties have so I guess it's a problem that goes far beyond the issue of who is leading the party. I'm not a fan of Corbyn AT ALL but my dislike for him doesn't descend so much into wanting to see Labour tarnished especially when they are right that the election should be fought on issues like health, education and housing rather than Brexit.

      Unless a really strong independent candidate comes forward the only option I have in my area, given the nature of FPTP, are the Lib Dems.
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      Reply #7: Apr 18, 2017 01:54:16 pm
      If the strategy has been judged right it will see the end of Corbyn. On the downside; we will have to listen to that wishy washy dick, who leads the Lib Dems, an awful lot more, for the next 6 weeks. 😭

      I don't mind him but he's no Charles Kennedy!
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      Reply #8: Apr 18, 2017 02:01:59 pm
      Well, I'm not really surprised by May's move here.

      She is a slippery, opportunistic witch, changing her colours more than a chameleon. Has anyone also noticed the quality of her clothes, and hair cuts, they are not cheap by any standard, plus remember those £1000 leather trousers, FFS don't think all this will not be on expenses.

      Interesting to see what team Kipper do? will they oppose the Tory's or just add opposition in the none Tory seats.

      Best outcome possible outcome for me would be a hung parliament as I can't see anyone overtaking the Tory's, what is for sure is that there is going to be a lot of #fakenews, lies, etc.

      As an NHS worker for 30yrs plus, who has not had a pay rise in real terms, my take home pay is the same as it was 10yrs ago, despite going up 1 band, and yearly increments too boot, plus a 1.5% pay cut this April, I won't be voting Tory. Cu*ts

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      Reply #9: Apr 18, 2017 02:07:12 pm
      Well, I'm not really surprised by May's move here.

      She is a slippery, opportunistic witch, changing her colours more than a chameleon. Has anyone also noticed the quality of her clothes, and hair cuts, they are not cheap by any standard, plus remember those £1000 leather trousers, FFS don't think all this will not be on expenses.

      Interesting to see what team Kipper do? will they oppose the Tory's or just add opposition in the none Tory seats.

      Best outcome possible outcome for me would be a hung parliament as I can't see anyone overtaking the Tory's, what is for sure is that there is going to be a lot of #fakenews, lies, etc.

      As an NHS worker for 30yrs plus, who has not had a pay rise in real terms, my take home pay is the same as it was 10yrs ago, despite going up 1 band, and yearly increments too boot, plus a 1.5% pay cut this April, I won't be voting Tory. Cu*ts

      Never trust anyone with leather trousers!

      By the way, did you see the twitter storm before it was announced? People thought she was resigning on health grounds! Got to be honest that's what I thought as well!
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      Reply #10: Apr 18, 2017 02:13:11 pm
      Tory's 1/14, jeeze, thank god I can retire hopefully in 21 months.
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      Reply #11: Apr 18, 2017 02:15:13 pm
      https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/854284694174785536

      First Labour MP has announced he won't stand for re-election. I think we all know why.
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      Reply #12: Apr 18, 2017 02:20:49 pm
      https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/854284694174785536

      First Labour MP has announced he won't stand for re-election. I think we all know why.

      'Cos he has his MP's pension, nice little seat on a board of directors,house paid for.... Oh and he's a coward.

      F***ing hell.


      He's 36, what a baby.
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      Cow, sorry I'm on one,going to cool off.
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      Reply #14: Apr 18, 2017 02:28:49 pm
      'Cos he has his MP's pension, nice little seat on a board of directors,house paid for.... Oh and he's a coward.

      F***ing hell.


      He's 36, what a baby.

      If there's one thing the pro Corbyn and anti Corbyn factions of Labour agree on it is that both sides are actively willing to see the destruction of the entire party if it means that the other side is destroyed with it.

      Mutually assured destruction.
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      Reply #15: Apr 18, 2017 02:38:10 pm
      If there's one thing the pro Corbyn and anti Corbyn factions of Labour agree on it is that both sides are actively willing to see the destruction of the entire party if it means that the other side is destroyed with it.

      Mutually assured destruction.

      I know, it's as if they don't want power, may be that is it, they just like the easy buck.
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      Reply #17: Apr 18, 2017 02:58:07 pm
      Come on Nigel, come on home son.........
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      Reply #18: Apr 18, 2017 03:02:30 pm

      Exclusive: Conservative poll showed party would "lose seats" to the Liberal Democrats
      Election strategist Lynton Crosby warned the party would lose MPs to the Lib Dems in an early election, sources say.

      http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/04/exclusive-conservative-poll-showed-party-would-lose-seats-liberal-democrats

      This was only two weeks ago. So it means they are quite happy to sacrifice a few seats here and there if it means hauling many from Labour? But what if Labour do better than expected?
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      Reply #19: Apr 18, 2017 03:07:48 pm

      Exclusive: Conservative poll showed party would "lose seats" to the Liberal Democrats
      Election strategist Lynton Crosby warned the party would lose MPs to the Lib Dems in an early election, sources say.

      http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/04/exclusive-conservative-poll-showed-party-would-lose-seats-liberal-democrats

      This was only two weeks ago. So it means they are quite happy to sacrifice a few seats here and there if it means hauling many from Labour? But what if Labour do better than expected?

      Unfortunately I do not believe anything, that 'poll' could be part of a plan, leaked in preparation for today.

      What last, and this year has shown, is that the internet, social media, etc, can be used excellently to manipulate democracy.

      On the author of that report:
      Sir Lynton Keith Crosby AO is an Australian political strategist who has managed election campaigns for right-of-centre parties in several countries.
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      Reply #20: Apr 18, 2017 03:31:53 pm
      Unfortunately I do not believe anything, that 'poll' could be part of a plan, leaked in preparation for today.

      What last, and this year has shown, is that the internet, social media, etc, can be used excellently to manipulate democracy.

      On the author of that report:
      Sir Lynton Keith Crosby AO is an Australian political strategist who has managed election campaigns for right-of-centre parties in several countries.

      That's true. Important to note that it isn't from any polling company like yougov or ComRes. We all know Crosby is a clever and devious individual what with his dog whistle campaigns. Has a long history of it in Australia. But the Lib Dems did take that Zac Goldsmith seat in south London a few months ago so it's not beyond the realm of possibility that they will reclaim some of the ground.

      Either or we're in for 6 weeks of sh*t slinging and echo chamber rubbish. I really can't be arsed. Time to tune out!
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      Reply #21: Apr 18, 2017 03:45:10 pm
      Come on Nigel, come on home son.........

      Can actually see him being drafted in by UKIP.

      Can't believe i'm saying but i'll be voting the Tories, May has shown herself to be a strong leader so far imo, in Brexit she's put her own desire to remain below those who voted out, triggered article 50 and is already negotiating our exit, I feel were in safe hands to negotiate a good deal/exit, the following elections are fair game.

      Labour, in such disarray they couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, wouldn't want them anywhere near a Brexit negotiation never mind running the Country.

      Democraps just ;D

      Ukip as above, no where near ready to handle Brexit, run the Country.

      Best of a bad bunch will get my vote.
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      Reply #22: Apr 18, 2017 04:16:14 pm
      Unfortunately I do not believe anything, that 'poll' could be part of a plan, leaked in preparation for today.

      What last, and this year has shown, is that the internet, social media, etc, can be used excellently to manipulate democracy.

      On the author of that report:
      Sir Lynton Keith Crosby AO is an Australian political strategist who has managed election campaigns for right-of-centre parties in several countries.

      Yeah, I expect to see the entire media - including the Tory supporting part of it - talking up the Libdems over the next few weeks in the hope of casting them as the "real opposition" etc, to take votes off Labour. "Internal polls" like that one could well be part of it.

      [ Edit - I see it's an "exclusive" leaked to the New Statesman. So aimed at Labour voters. Middle-class Labour voters as well, the ones most likely to switch to Libdem.]
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      Reply #23: Apr 18, 2017 04:44:29 pm
      I don't mind him but he's no Charles Kennedy!

      Farron is apalling, even worse than Clegg, remember him? I live in Cambridge which is a liberal heartland and its a f**king nightmare, half arsed very expensive cycle schemes everywhere, no coordination over roadworks etc, the thought of that on a larger scale is bloody terrifying.

      Lib Dems will pick up some votes, mostly from Labour, but when push comes to shove people will vote for the only proper party, the conservatives. They will win a HUGE landslide, perhaps even bigger than Blair in 97. I also predict the conservatives and liberals to make significant headway in Scotland.
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      Reply #24: Apr 18, 2017 05:10:41 pm
      As per usual, I'll vote on policies, not personalities, and that will, once again, rule out voting Tory.

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