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      Roddenberry
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      Re: UK General Election June 2017
      Reply #3500: Mar 01, 2018 11:21:27 pm
      Nice speech apart from the fact that the poor are in fact getting richer as well or at least less poor, sorry but statistically they just are, I know its inconvenient to your argument.

      Personally I don't mind if the NHS is privatised a little bit more, AS LONG AS THERE IS STILL UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE AVAILABLE TO ALL. At the moment the NHS is hideously inefficient and you can't just keep chucking money at it and hope that magically solves all the issues.
      For example if the cost of private health care came down a bit more than it currently is then I'd be more than happy to jump over to it, as I'm sure many others would as well, that would free up space in the NHS in terms of money and capacity.



      The poor may have more money but, in real terms, as it's worth less, it's a little inconvenient for your argument and the last thing the NHS needs is more of their work being put out to tender, especially the way the CONservatives are running those bids and the complete failure that occurs, because of the way it's run during a change of outside contractor, it costs time and money and is no way efficient.

      Education, health and housing, three things we should never profit off. I've seen some moan that taxation is theft, capitalism is daylight robbery.
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      Re: UK General Election June 2017
      Reply #3501: Mar 02, 2018 01:45:02 pm
      The poor may have more money but, in real terms, as it's worth less, it's a little inconvenient for your argument and the last thing the NHS needs is more of their work being put out to tender, especially the way the CONservatives are running those bids and the complete failure that occurs, because of the way it's run during a change of outside contractor, it costs time and money and is no way efficient.

      Education, health and housing, three things we should never profit off. I've seen some moan that taxation is theft, capitalism is daylight robbery.

      Did you miss the part where I said privatisation, but only as long as universal health care is still available to all. I'm glad that you agree that the current setup cannot continue though, its a complete bloody mess with outside contractors, for lack of a better term, earning 3 times as much as regular staff etc, its bullshit and terrible for morale.
      The whole thing needs a radical rethink and the UK needs to look at how its done in Europe where there is a good mix between public and private and the overall quality of healthcare for all is better.
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      Re: UK General Election June 2017
      Reply #3502: Mar 02, 2018 03:35:51 pm
      We have privatised medicine for those that want and can afford it already.  Privatising won't improve what we have, letting local NHS employ the staff directly may. Looking at the industries this country has privatised so far, it's only led to profits for the rich, not improved the service and, rail for example, has made things more expensive and worse, making profits whilst still getting tax payer funding, which is a joke. We need to move away from filling these greedy shits pockets and, I reiterate, housing, health and education should not be for profit.
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      Re: UK General Election June 2017
      Reply #3503: Mar 02, 2018 04:37:47 pm
      We have privatised medicine for those that want and can afford it already.  Privatising won't improve what we have, letting local NHS employ the staff directly may. Looking at the industries this country has privatised so far, it's only led to profits for the rich, not improved the service and, rail for example, has made things more expensive and worse, making profits whilst still getting tax payer funding, which is a joke. We need to move away from filling these greedy shits pockets and, I reiterate, housing, health and education should not be for profit.

      Are you incapable of seeing shades of grey, is it for you either privatised 100% or 100% nationalised? Most of Europe have significant chunks of their healthcare system privatised, this doesn't mean that the citizens have a worse level of care, in fact in almost all cases its better than the UK with shorter waiting times easier access to specialists etc.
      I think the entire NHS needs a radical rethink on how it can become more efficient and serve patients even better.
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      Re: UK General Election June 2017
      Reply #3506: Mar 05, 2018 11:16:28 pm

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