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      Naby Keita - RB Leipzig

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      Keith Singleton
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      Re: Neiby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #25: May 27, 2017 10:31:28 am


      Personally, I'm not fussed in the slightest about how much we spend, whether it's a little or a lot, so long as the players signed give us the best possible chance of success.


      Haven't I been saying this for years  ;) Nice to read your in the same bracket   :D As fans do we really give a f**k how much we spend be it 10 million or 90 million? We just hope they turn out well.  :)


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      Reply #26: May 27, 2017 10:39:03 am

      Haven't I been saying this for years  ;) Nice to read your in the same bracket   :D As fans do we really give a f**k how much we spend be it 10 million or 90 million? We just hope they turn out well.  :)




      Rubbish. I soon as Mourningho signs a 16 years for £10 - you guys would go in a melt.
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      Re: Neiby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #27: May 27, 2017 11:08:24 am
      Those two, as well as Reddy, get leaks from the club that the club wants them to put out. The fact that this has been leaked to them should set alarm bells ringing.

      Another cracking: "Well we wanted to get such and such for £50 million" type story  come September.

      Good point, surprised you were the only one who brought this up. It's our MO these days isn't it.
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      Re: Neiby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #28: May 27, 2017 11:19:27 am
      I honestly, do not know him. Is he better than ours ???
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      Reply #29: May 27, 2017 11:36:23 am
      I honestly, do not know him. Is he better than ours ???

      No idea.

      I've only just about got to know what he looks like never mind how good a footballer he is.

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      Re: Neiby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #30: May 27, 2017 11:43:09 am
      Think he is the real deal. Just the calibre of player we should be after. Very exciting if true.
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      Reply #31: May 27, 2017 11:50:07 am
      I honestly, do not know him. Is he better than ours ???

      He is Kante Mk II. He can play DM , CM or AMC, but I think he is best deployed as a box-boxer.
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      Reply #32: May 27, 2017 12:04:54 pm
      He is Kante Mk II. He can play DM , CM or AMC, but I think he is best deployed as a box-boxer.

      Thanks mate. If he's half of Kante, we would be ok :)
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      Reply #33: May 27, 2017 12:10:27 pm
      Thanks mate. If he's half of Kante, we would be ok :)

      Agree.

      A 'Kante' is exactly what we should be buying in CM.

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      Re: Neiby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #34: May 27, 2017 05:17:56 pm
      This is the one signing I want to happen this summer.
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      Re: Neiby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #35: May 28, 2017 07:12:44 pm
      Know f**k all about him.

      Who would he replace in our team and what type of player is he in terms of anyone you can think off?
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      Reply #36: May 28, 2017 08:04:10 pm
      Know f**k all about him.

      Who would he replace in our team and what type of player is he in terms of anyone you can think off?

      He could play anywhere in the mid-field and is considered box-box....general consensus is he would push Lallana, common sense says he would be playing anywhere the manager could get him on the pitch.
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      Reply #37: May 28, 2017 08:44:29 pm
      I've heard he's basically Kante plus goals..... if that's the case yes please!
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      Reply #38: May 28, 2017 08:44:50 pm
      Know f**k all about him.

      Who would he replace in our team and what type of player is he in terms of anyone you can think off?

      He's Kante but with more of an attacking impetus.
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      Re: Neiby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #39: May 28, 2017 09:06:19 pm
      He could play anywhere in the mid-field and is considered box-box....general consensus is he would push Lallana, common sense says he would be playing anywhere the manager could get him on the pitch.
      What general consensus? The way we are playing right now, Lallana isn't leaving the field for Keita.....Gini, Can or Lucas yes indeed.
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      Reply #40: May 28, 2017 09:15:24 pm
      What general consensus? The way we are playing right now, Lallana isn't leaving the field for Keita.....Gini, Can or Lucas yes indeed.


      Speaking of Lallana FL and admittedly slightly off topic, where do you see his role if Cou does drop into midfield?

      He's clearly not going to take Mane's spot and I think 1 of Can/Keita etc would not be enough cover behind these two except perhaps against real bus parkers?

      Sure he'll definitely come in should either Cou or Mane be out, could he potentially move wide left? I wouldn't have thought so.
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      Re: Neiby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #41: May 28, 2017 10:14:09 pm
      Speaking of Lallana FL and admittedly slightly off topic, where do you see his role if Cou does drop into midfield?

      He's clearly not going to take Mane's spot and I think 1 of Can/Keita etc would not be enough cover behind these two except perhaps against real bus parkers?

      Sure he'll definitely come in should either Cou or Mane be out, could he potentially move wide left? I wouldn't have thought so.

      That's what  I've been thinking. Some of his better games, you'll notice he'll drift all over the field so I don't think it's a stretch to see him be able to play either side. Here's another thought...if Jürgen goes forward with a diamond midfield and two strikers,  could we see Mane play more forward as the second of two strikers? Dunno if it makes sense, honestly asking.

      Either way, I think we've seen that Kloppo is in love with Adam and what he brings to the side, not just  attacking sense but also defensively so I don't see him being dropped for anyone at this point. Arguably the best player in England currently so he's got the cred to keep his spot unless he goes off the boil.






         
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      Re: Neiby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #42: May 28, 2017 10:32:02 pm
      Keita will be "fighting" for the 8 or 6 position, but not 10, especially when we have Lallana , Coutinho and Firmino.
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      Reply #43: May 28, 2017 11:23:37 pm
      Keita will be "fighting" for the 8 or 6 position, but not 10, especially when we have Lallana , Coutinho and Firmino.

      That's what I mean mate, basically Cou taking Lallana's spot rather than Keita.
      That's what  I've been thinking. Some of his better games, you'll notice he'll drift all over the field so I don't think it's a stretch to see him be able to play either side. Here's another thought...if Jürgen goes forward with a diamond midfield and two strikers,  could we see Mane play more forward as the second of two strikers? Dunno if it makes sense, honestly asking.

      Either way, I think we've seen that Kloppo is in love with Adam and what he brings to the side, not just  attacking sense but also defensively so I don't see him being dropped for anyone at this point. Arguably the best player in England currently so he's got the cred to keep his spot unless he goes off the boil.


      A diamond is interesting mate, never really thought of that to be honest.

              Firmino   Mane
                  Coutinho
              Keita       Lallana
                      Can
       New LB New CB Matip Clyne
                      Migs

      Certainly works for getting the best players we currently have into the team. With all the talk of Coutinho going into the 8 role I honestly hadn't considered him moving up to the 10, but it's possible, or just switching with Lallana and him playing the 10. Food for thought.
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      Re: Neiby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #44: May 28, 2017 11:31:03 pm

              Firmino   Mane
                  Coutinho
              Keita       Lallana
                      Can
       New LB New CB Matip Clyne
                      Migs


      I like it.
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      Re: Neiby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #45: May 28, 2017 11:40:02 pm

      Yea I do too, get your best attacking players on the field. And Lallana's defensive work is a huge benefit.
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      Re: Neiby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #46: May 29, 2017 12:43:00 am
      He's a DM and would sit next to Wijnaldum/Can/Henderson, while Cou/Lallana occupy the top berth in the triangle.

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      Reply #47: May 29, 2017 12:45:29 am
      That's what I mean mate, basically Cou taking Lallana's spot rather than Keita.
      A diamond is interesting mate, never really thought of that to be honest.

              Firmino   Mane
                  Coutinho
              Keita       Lallana
                      Can
       New LB New CB Matip Clyne
                      Migs

      Certainly works for getting the best players we currently have into the team. With all the talk of Coutinho going into the 8 role I honestly hadn't considered him moving up to the 10, but it's possible, or just switching with Lallana and him playing the 10. Food for thought.

      I don't mind a diamond, but if we keep the same full backs as last season, I don't think it's the right formation for us.

      I prefer us to go 4213/433 with a left sided Mane (as well as the original on the right :D) and Lallana/Coutinho in midfield. I think we'll have enough protection with Keita/Wijnaldum and Can/Hendo.

      And don''t forget Firmino's work rate and pressing, he will add that bit more solidity in the midfield when he drops off, and this time, when he drops off, we will have 2 runners ahead of him oppose to 0 when Mane was out :D
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      Re: Neiby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #48: May 29, 2017 01:20:18 am
      I don't mind a diamond, but if we keep the same full backs as last season, I don't think it's the right formation for us.

      Agree with this point mate, another reason why Trent needs to speed up on his defensive development because him at RB would be perfect for what we need in attack from a diamond.

      Milner is just bad in all formations in my opinion, he just doesn't have the outside threat.

      I prefer us to go 4213/433 with a left sided Mane (as well as the original on the right ) and Lallana/Coutinho in midfield. I think we'll have enough protection with Keita/Wijnaldum and Can/Hendo.

      That's all I had in mind for us next season mate, but FL did throw an interesting one in there that has some merit imo.

      And don''t forget Firmino's work rate and pressing, he will add that bit more solidity in the midfield when he drops off, and this time, when he drops off, we will have 2 runners ahead of him oppose to 0 when Mane was out

      Yep, a left sided Mane would be very nice, especially with Cou dropping deeper, would terrorise any defence that.
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      Re: Neiby Keita - RB Leipzig
      Reply #49: May 29, 2017 02:11:03 am
      That's what  I've been thinking. Some of his better games, you'll notice he'll drift all over the field so I don't think it's a stretch to see him be able to play either side. Here's another thought...if Jürgen goes forward with a diamond midfield and two strikers,  could we see Mane play more forward as the second of two strikers? Dunno if it makes sense, honestly asking.

      Either way, I think we've seen that Kloppo is in love with Adam and what he brings to the side, not just  attacking sense but also defensively so I don't see him being dropped for anyone at this point. Arguably the best player in England currently so he's got the cred to keep his spot unless he goes off the boil.


      Regarding Mane playing as one of two strikers in a diamond, I've been having the exact same thought today. Mane would provide Coutinho with the weapon that he rarely has in Sturridge, somebody to run onto the through balls and who will get in behind the defence.

      Can

      Lallana   -   Keita

      Coutinho

      Mane   -   Firmino

      Firmino doesn't get enough goals to lead the line on his own but leaving him out of the side kind of takes away the whole "defend from the front" philosophy that Klopp has ingrained into the players.

      I think Purple Monkey makes a good point in regards to our full backs though. We'll need them to be a lot more successful in attack compared to what they have been this season.

      One thing I like about the team is the flexibility of a number of the players to play in different positions, Klopp needs to use that to his and our advantage a lot more.

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