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      Which 'journos' do you trust on Transfers and why?

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      bad boy bubby
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      Which 'journos' do you trust on Transfers and why?
      May 30, 2017 04:18:48 pm
      It is what it says on the tin...

      So... who do you trust to be honest, solid and/or reliable, when it come to transfers, and why?

      Or do you trust none of them? 😉
      « Last Edit: Sep 13, 2017 08:11:18 am by JD »
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #1: May 30, 2017 04:20:55 pm
      I trust the ones that link us to players I think are great. ;)
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #2: May 30, 2017 05:07:27 pm
      Henry Winter .

      Brilliant journo and always very fair to us .
      Never writes a bad match report.

      Author of Stevie's    " My Autobiography."


      He did 20 years on the Telegraph moving to the  Times last year.
      « Last Edit: May 31, 2017 12:36:06 am by MIRO »
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #3: May 30, 2017 05:25:02 pm
      It is what it says on the tin...

      So... who do you trust to be honest, solid and/or reliable, when it come to transfers, and why?

      Or do you trust none of them? 😉

      Generally ones that have worked at the echo covering Liverpool or worked on the Kop Magazine, also produced by the Echo, they usually get a bit more insight into what goes on in the club, say than the southern based tabloid journos.
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #4: May 30, 2017 05:36:33 pm
      Bascombe is pretty decent, as too is Winter, I also like our very own Brian Reade not just for the footie either, one or two others stand out like Tony Barratt, Jason Burt(telegraph) aint to shabby either.


      as for the rest....

      .......they can suck it !




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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #5: May 30, 2017 05:45:50 pm
      It is what it says on the tin...

      So... who do you trust to be honest, solid and/or reliable, when it come to transfers, and why?

      Or do you trust none of them? 😉

      None of the f*ckers to be brutal, what about you BBB  ;)
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #6: May 30, 2017 05:52:07 pm
      James Lawton and Martin Samuel are probably two of the finest journalists out there ( IMO )
      Both are extremely insightful and always do their homework. Their columns are always fantastic reads.
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #7: May 30, 2017 07:05:06 pm
      I'm assuming the question is specifically regarding player transfer rumors.  In that sense, the word "trust" may not be the right descriptive.  Rather, I'd suggest that some journos are more reliable than others.  As mentioned above, the likes of Pearce, Reddy, Barrett, and Smith would probably fall into this category.  However, none of them get everything right (not even the reliable ones) so it's best to take all transfer rumors with a pinch of salt....
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #8: May 30, 2017 07:15:17 pm
      James Lawton and Martin Samuel are probably two of the finest journalists out there ( IMO )
      Both are extremely insightful and always do their homework. Their columns are always fantastic reads.

      Martin Samuel has to be the biggest shithouse, West Ham-loving, dickhead going!

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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #9: May 30, 2017 09:01:01 pm
      Tend to gauge it by the publication/frequency of link/general plausibility test as I do not normally recall the names of all the journos.

      For example, according to my bullshit detector, if it's rumour that's appeared in the Metro, The Daily Star or Football Rumours, and has not been picked up by BBC or one of the major news publications in a standard article (rumour sections alone don't count as they always contain complete bollocks) then it is almost certainly completely invented dog sh*t and I give it the swerve. In fact I refuse to read such publications as they are so unreliable.

      Generally you get a sense if a rumour has or could have legs...and that's when I take an interest. I also always check the publication source before I decide whether it's worth reading.

      I do exactly the same in fact as when I see something posted by a certain forum member in the Current Affairs section of the forum. Often (I.e. 99% of the time) the mere fact that he has posted something gives off enough of a whiff that I know it isn't worth the time of day.
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #10: May 30, 2017 10:24:06 pm
      Martin Samuel has to be the biggest shithouse, West Ham-loving, dickhead going!



      Absolutely mate, in fact which shithouse would recommend Samuel, oh wait a minute........fair enough  :f_tongueincheek:

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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #11: May 30, 2017 10:27:51 pm
      Martin Samuel you were saying?

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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #12: May 31, 2017 08:03:11 am
      Did you miss your tablets this morning bad boy ?
      'Journo's' and 'trust' should never be mentioned in the same paragraph, never mind sentence 😳
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #13: May 31, 2017 09:10:10 am
      Martin Samuel has to be the biggest shithouse, West Ham-loving, dickhead going!
      Well then maybe you shouldn't read his columns then.
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #14: May 31, 2017 09:15:30 am
      Absolutely mate, in fact which shithouse would recommend Samuel, oh wait a minute........fair enough  :f_tongueincheek:
      Again , i can't understand why you read Samuels column if you feel that way. Puzzling.
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #15: May 31, 2017 10:53:18 am
      Journos work off info that is either;

      A) Fiction for clickbait, or

      B) Tidbits from the club to keep them onside and feel as though they're given inside info.

      You can't trust a journo. You can have a preference for some depending on writing style etc. but to trust them? As if any club would feed sensitive info to a journo.
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #16: May 31, 2017 02:57:31 pm
      Well then maybe you shouldn't read his columns then.

      I don't, especially seeing as he used to have a column in the former Sunday S*n ;)

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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #17: May 31, 2017 03:10:34 pm
      I don't, especially seeing as he used to have a column in the former Sunday S*n ;)
      So you don't read what he writes but think he's a shithouse ? Yeh i see your logic.
      Do you also not read books and tell people they're sh*te?
      Or don't watch films and tell people they're sh*te ?
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      Reply #18: May 31, 2017 03:19:09 pm
      So you don't read what he writes but think he's a shithouse ? Yeh i see your logic.
      Do you also not read books and tell people they're sh*te?
      Or don't watch films and tell people they're sh*te ?

      Don't read the S*n.

      110% sure it's the lowest f**king form of vile sh*t.

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      Reply #19: May 31, 2017 03:28:33 pm
      So you don't read what he writes but think he's a shithouse ? Yeh i see your logic.
      Do you also not read books and tell people they're sh*te?
      Or don't watch films and tell people they're sh*te ?

      So you don't remember his pieces slagging off Rafa in the NOTW? Hence Rafa's there's two newspapers we don't read quote about the s*n & the news of the world. Samuels worked on the news of the world - hence why I think he's a shithouse.

      But you crack on loving another c**t who takes the murdoch shilling and has previous for slagging our club off.
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #20: May 31, 2017 04:28:12 pm
      I'm assuming the question is specifically regarding player transfer rumors.
      You 'assume' right Harry "...

      who do you trust to be honest, solid and/or reliable, when it come to transfers...

      I asked because there seems to be no rhyme or reason [consistency if you prefer] to how we view stories linking us to players.

      Me? I've noticed, more so this past few windows, that the company tend to leak info first to a select few... Pearce, Reddy and Joyce for example. They tend to be closest to the club. However I believe they are also used to test the water in return for the odd scoop.

      Who do I "trust"? Hmm... well I work on the notion that those three are closest to the club but more importantly, (for me anyhow), having decided that this is the case, I no longer cherry pick what I choose to believe.

      For example - one, two or all three of them say we are after player X: I will accept that. We then fail to sign that player: I will accept we missed out.

      So, in the absence of a definitive list of who we can "trust" - I thought it may be interesting to see who individuals see as being solid sources.






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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #21: May 31, 2017 04:31:27 pm
      None of the f*ckers to be brutal...

      Handy that but noted Al. 😉

      so it's best to take all transfer rumors with a pinch of salt....

      Meaning, of course, that you never need to be consistent and can dismiss or accept what ever story fits your narrative. Again handy that. 😄

      Teasing aside Harry - "all rumours..." it is. 😉


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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #22: Jun 01, 2017 11:06:14 am
      So you don't remember his pieces slagging off Rafa in the NOTW? Hence Rafa's there's two newspapers we don't read quote about the s*n & the news of the world. Samuels worked on the news of the world - hence why I think he's a shithouse.

      But you crack on loving another c**t who takes the murdoch shilling and has previous for slagging our club off.
      Slagging Rafa off ? Really ? You never get tired of over reacting do you ? Not being able to be objective is not a virtue y'know.
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust and why?
      Reply #23: Jun 07, 2017 08:34:37 am
      I remember a site that used to track transfer rumours across the media, not sure it still exists, can't remember the name. What I do remember is that even the best were getting barely above 20% of transfer stories right with the red tops getting single figures or barely in the tens of percent.

      Mind you, those kind of percentages put their 'real news' coverage to shame
      « Last Edit: Jun 07, 2017 05:36:29 pm by Roddenberry »
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust on Transfers and why?
      Reply #24: Nov 23, 2017 08:44:34 pm
      Did you miss your tablets this morning bad boy ?
      'Journo's' and 'trust' should never be mentioned in the same paragraph, never mind sentence 😳

      Trust ?   None .

      Spiel anything to fill some column inches.
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      Reply #25: Nov 24, 2017 10:50:32 pm
      None of them.
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust on Transfers and why?
      Reply #26: Nov 25, 2017 08:55:06 am
      I dont think any of them know anything really, they make 'educated' guesses and base stories on 1+1 = whatever their narative wants to be.

      Some right whoppers mentioned on here though. Samuel? 

      Another mentioned very rarely if ever gets involved in transfer sh*te which was the title of the question...( Winter)
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust on Transfers and why?
      Reply #27: Dec 28, 2017 01:08:45 am
      I dont think any of them know anything really

      I think this 'surprise' signing of van Dijk proves the point that since the summer debacle they are being kept out of the loop now and they were only briefed around 15 minutes or so before VVD announced it himself.

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      Reply #28: Dec 28, 2017 01:11:34 am
      I think this 'surprise' signing of van Dijk proves the point that since the summer debacle they are being kept out of the loop now and they were only briefed around 15 minutes or so before VVD announced it himself.



      Definitely a case of lesson learned for LFC.
      That leak cost the club a signing in the summer and has come back to haunt the team all season.
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      Reply #29: Dec 28, 2017 01:20:05 am
      That leak cost the club a signing in the summer and has come back to haunt the team all season.

      Probably cost them a bit in terms of a larger transfer fee as well.
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust on Transfers and why?
      Reply #30: Dec 28, 2017 10:50:32 am
      I think this 'surprise' signing of van Dijk proves the point that since the summer debacle they are being kept out of the loop now and they were only briefed around 15 minutes or so before VVD announced it himself.
      Long may it continue keeping them out of the loop ,sometimes it's best to keep your gob shut & do your  business quietly as we found out the hard way.
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      Reply #31: Dec 28, 2017 11:02:44 am
      Probably cost them a bit in terms of a larger transfer fee as well.

      The "Sorry we couldn't hold our piss" percentage.
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust on Transfers and why?
      Reply #32: Dec 28, 2017 02:13:49 pm
      Who said there was a leak? Journalists often go as far as breaking the law to get a scoop. Phone hacking and calling people pretending to be someone else... When there's leaks there should be discipline within the club or to illegally acting journalists. It costs the club.
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust on Transfers and why?
      Reply #33: Dec 28, 2017 02:35:00 pm
      I think someone suggested earlier that a table should be made of jourbos and their correct or incorrect predictions to see logically who knows bits and pieces..

      Which journo,
      Who broke the story first,
      Was they correct,
      Was they pissing in the wind ect..
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust on Transfers and why?
      Reply #34: Dec 28, 2017 06:39:58 pm
      I think someone suggested earlier that a table should be made of jourbos and their correct or incorrect predictions to see logically who knows bits and pieces..

      Which journo,
      Who broke the story first,
      Was they correct,
      Was they pissing in the wind ect..

      Used to be a website that monitored papers on transfer stories, all the red tops were single figures up to 12%, the best national was 18%, I believe it was The Times and/or The Guardian.
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust on Transfers and why?
      Reply #35: Dec 28, 2017 06:43:19 pm
      I think someone suggested earlier that a table should be made of jourbos and their correct or incorrect predictions to see logically who knows bits and pieces..

      Which journo,
      Who broke the story first,
      Was they correct,
      Was they pissing in the wind ect..
      If there is data, it can be modelled using WEKA. A free data modelling tool. It can make predictions about future likelihood events from past data. It's got good accuracy if the data is used right.
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust on Transfers and why?
      Reply #36: Dec 28, 2017 06:48:20 pm
      If there is data, it can be modelled using WEKA. A free data modelling tool. It can make predictions about future likelihood events from past data. It's got good accuracy if the data is used right.

      Like

      Using Ribapuru's post history (past data) we can predict that your next post will be utter sh*te (future likelihood event)

      I'd say that would be highly accurate
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      Reply #37: Dec 28, 2017 07:35:53 pm
      Like

      Using Ribapuru's post history (past data) we can predict that your next post will be utter sh*te (future likelihood event)

      I'd say that would be highly accurate
      Here. Check it out mods. Is this okay?
      It's posts like this that made me return insults, get warned... Then request my own ban.
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      Reply #38: Dec 28, 2017 08:26:36 pm
      Here. Check it out mods. Is this okay?
      It's posts like this that made me return insults, get warned... Then request my own ban.

      You've heard of piss taking right?

      I literally don't mind what you throw back... soz like, it's the culture I've been brought up in

      👍
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust on Transfers and why?
      Reply #39: Dec 30, 2017 11:15:00 am
      Paul Joyce, Tony Barrett, Melissa Reddy and obviously James Pearce.

      Generally anything they say is going to happen, will happen.
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      Re: Which 'journos' do you trust on Transfers and why?
      Reply #40: Jan 02, 2018 02:04:10 pm
      Paul Joyce, Tony Barrett, Melissa Reddy and obviously James Pearce.

      Generally anything they say is going to happen, will happen.

      Time to close this thread. Just follow these three plus James and that's it.

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