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      Gelson Martins - Sporting Lisbon

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      Gelson Martins - Sporting Lisbon
      Jun 07, 2017 11:10:50 am
      Got to admit never heard of him.

      http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40184515

      Probably more of a hurry up to Roma.
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      Re: Gelson Martins - Sporting Lisbon
      Reply #1: Jun 07, 2017 11:17:04 am
      Got to admit never heard of him.

      http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40184515

      Probably more of a hurry up to Roma.

      But this guy has a release clause of £50 mill.

      So how can he be an alternative?????
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      Reply #2: Jun 07, 2017 11:30:36 am
      Sky Sports News HQ‏Verified account @SkySportsNewsHQ 41m41 minutes ago
      BREAKING: Liverpool in talks with Sporting Lisbon over transfer of winger Gelson Martins - Sky sources #SSNHQ

      BBC Sport @BBCSport
      Liverpool fear being priced out of a move for Mohamed Salah... Gelson Martins could be on his way though

      Tancredi Palmeri‏Verified account @tancredipalmeri 29m29 minutes ago
      Liverpool are in contact with Sporting for wonderboy Gelson Martins
       
      One solace is we have alternatives of the right profile unlike the Suarez debacle. I'm not a fan of Keita Balde Diao cos he has been very very inconsistent and has attitude issues (not quite the team player mould). Costa could be a shrewd signing and Bayern are supposedly willing to let him go for 35mil
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      Reply #3: Jun 07, 2017 12:20:41 pm
      Smacks of trying to pin roma down over salah
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      Reply #4: Jun 07, 2017 12:36:44 pm
      But this guy has a release clause of £50 mill.

      So how can he be an alternative?????

      I think it's 45M Euro's.
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      Reply #5: Jun 07, 2017 12:48:16 pm
      Must be a bluff to get the Salah deal done.

      Why would we pay more, or at least the same, for a much less proven player?
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      Reply #6: Jun 07, 2017 01:01:02 pm
      Must be a bluff to get the Salah deal done.

      Why would we pay more, or at least the same, for a much less proven player?

      I don't think we would activate the clause to sign him.
      I don't know him but I think Salah is a better option given his experience and stats.
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      Reply #7: Jun 07, 2017 04:10:29 pm
      I don't think we would activate the clause to sign him.
      I don't know him but I think Salah is a better option given his experience and stats.


      My personal choice for players we are linked with for this position;

      1) Costa
      2) Salah
      3) Martins
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      Reply #8: Jun 07, 2017 04:15:11 pm

      My personal choice for players we are linked with for this position;

      1) Costa
      2) Salah
      3) Martins

      Costa is a 4 goal a year player..that's it; if we want a guaranteed 4 goals he would be our man
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      Reply #9: Jun 07, 2017 04:36:28 pm


      I know this seems like a clever negotiating strategy but by christ it also looks like absolutely peak Liverpool transfer incompetence!

      It looks that way to people who follow the rags and twitter like they were gospel.....I don't think the manager is incompetent and seeing how he has the final say on all transfers (yea or ney) I think I will wait before I unleash my outrage.


      Amazing how the paper,social media and agents can so easily manipulate the emotions of so many people with utter nonsense

      We are Gepetto


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      Reply #10: Jun 07, 2017 04:41:46 pm

      My personal choice for players we are linked with for this position;

      1) Costa
      2) Salah
      3) Martins

      Costa is overrated and injury prone.
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      Reply #11: Jun 07, 2017 04:43:42 pm
      It is like wanting to go to a 5 star restuarant, but getting half way, deciding to go to mcdonalds, finding a cheeseburger expensive, then going nextdoor and buying a packet of crisps.
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      Reply #12: Jun 07, 2017 05:27:39 pm
      Costa is a 4 goal a year player..that's it; if we want a guaranteed 4 goals he would be our man

      No guarantees to be honest, different tactics, different styles of play etc etc suit players in different ways, could be worse, could be par, could be better.
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      Reply #13: Jun 07, 2017 05:53:54 pm
      Smokescreen
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      Reply #14: Jun 07, 2017 06:01:54 pm

      40 million British Sterling? Is that right?
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      Reply #15: Jun 07, 2017 06:11:47 pm
      40 million British Sterling? Is that right?


      That is an article I read yes. Who knows if it is good business, I don't but if Klopp wants a player it's for a reason and I trust him.
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      Reply #16: Jun 07, 2017 06:22:54 pm
      There's no way we pay £40m for this guy from the Portuguese league if we won't offer less for Salah.
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      Reply #17: Jun 07, 2017 06:48:51 pm
      There's no way we pay £40m for this guy from the Portuguese league if we won't offer less for Salah.

      Absolutely. And to even contemplate doing so would be madness. Salah is the desired target, therefore just pay the £35m fee and move to the next target.

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      Reply #18: Jun 07, 2017 08:35:35 pm
      Ooh it all started off so rosy. Bids in for Salah and VVD, rumours of moves for Lacazette and and Keita.

      But alas this is Fenways Liverpool and nothing ever is done properly.

      Won't pay up on Salah. F**ked up a move for VVD. On to secendary targets we go and it all seems like a little bit of history repeating.
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      Reply #19: Jun 07, 2017 09:53:01 pm
      There's no way we pay £40m for this guy from the Portuguese league if we won't offer less for Salah.

      just like we said no to Cristiano Ronaldo and Ricardo Quaresma both for 12 million because they came from the Portuguese league
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      Reply #21: Jun 08, 2017 01:12:37 am
      I am wondering whether we are after both Salah and Martins, the latter an alternative to Keita.
      From clips I have seen of him, his style of play would make him a good/ dynamic midfielder with an eye for a pass... just saying...
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      Reply #22: Jun 08, 2017 01:15:18 am
      I am wondering whether we are after both Salah and Martins, the latter an alternative to Keita.
      From clips I have seen of him, his style of play would make him a good/ dynamic midfielder with an eye for a pass... just saying...

      Keita? Martins is a winger, Keita is a box to box centre mid.
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      Reply #23: Jun 08, 2017 02:45:18 am
      Maybe he means Keita Balde? f*** it I don't know who we are going after or not anymore.
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      Reply #24: Jun 08, 2017 01:49:21 pm
      Gelson Martins update

      This comes courtesy of Portuguese newspaper A Bola, who first mooted interest in Sporting man Martins yesterday. It claims the Portuguese side would be demanding at least €50m for the transfer. That’s just a little less than his €60m release clause. The report suggests Liverpool, however, are not willing to go higher than €40m for the 22-year-old.

      Seriously, why the f**k are we pussyfooting around?! We are ready to pay €40m for a raw 22-yr old but will not go above €34m for Salah!! F***ing shambles we are.. and my last nerve just exploded!
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      Reply #25: Jun 08, 2017 02:07:09 pm
      We are ready to pay €40m for a raw 22-yr old but will not go above €34m for Salah!!

      I know, right?

      It defies logic. It's almost as if the media knows absolutely f**k all...hmm....
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      Reply #26: Jun 08, 2017 03:44:26 pm
      Basically like buying Sterling back  :(
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      Reply #28: Jun 17, 2017 11:42:06 pm

      There's no way we pay £40m for this guy from the Portuguese league if we won't offer less for Salah.

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      Reply #29: Jun 18, 2017 04:03:45 am

      As a Sportinguista, 50m€ is a complete joke for him - can't imagine it being anything more than games from either our side or from Sporting's.

      Bernardo Silva, who is a much more talented player, went that same fee and came from a more talented team in a stronger league where he was pivotal to that team winning the league.

      If we really want to raid the Portuguese league, go for Rúben Neves, Danilo (Pereira), or William Carvalho for our CDM and grab a guy like Iuri Medeiros for the wing for cheaper from Sporting - who had a better season on loan at Boavista than Gelson had at Sporting and who Sporting will use to replace Gelson with and probably sell for another 50m€ in a year's time.
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      Reply #30: Jun 24, 2017 02:20:41 am
      I am wondering whether we are after both Salah and Martins, the latter an alternative to Keita.
      From clips I have seen of him, his style of play would make him a good/ dynamic midfielder with an eye for a pass... just saying...

      Martin's certainly has the skills , the turns and touches .

      There is a Luis in there waiting to put on a Red shirt .    50 m release clause ?   

      Would be a bargain for this guy.
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      Reply #31: Jun 24, 2017 10:11:33 am
      Seems a skillfull lad with pace to burn. With better strikers his assists stat would be x3 ! Clips are impressive, but what about the ones we don't see.
      How many times does he try a trick and lose the ball ?
      A lot to be considered for that price, especially from a lesser league.
      Don't think many Prem defenders will sell themselves like some of those I've just watched.
      £30m be a good buy, but £50 ?
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      Reply #32: Jan 13, 2018 10:55:11 pm
      Martin's certainly has the skills , the turns and touches .

      There is a Luis in there waiting to put on a Red shirt .    50 m release clause ?   

      Would be a bargain for this guy.

      BBC Sport mentioning Martins being inked with us again.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/42676950
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      Reply #33: Jan 17, 2018 11:30:40 am
      BBC Sport mentioning Martins being inked with us again.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/42676950


      its in rumour section, the orignal story comes from  (Correio da Manha - in Portuguese, subscription required)
      are they trustworthy?
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      Reply #34: Jan 17, 2018 11:36:17 am
      I don't think there's much to it. Gelson is good, but I'm not sure he's that good, or ready for that step up.

      He also plays better on the right, same as Salah and Mané.

      If we were to go for wingers from the Portuguese league, the one that makes more sense for me is Brahimi from FC Porto.
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      Reply #35: Jan 18, 2018 01:55:09 pm
      I don't think there's much to it. Gelson is good, but I'm not sure he's that good, or ready for that step up.

      He also plays better on the right, same as Salah and Mané.

      If we were to go for wingers from the Portuguese league, the one that makes more sense for me is Brahimi from FC Porto.

      Everyone wants Gelson to be good, but like you say he’s not there yet and in my opinion it’s unlikely that he ever will be.

      He has electric pace and is quality on the dribble, but he differs from our wingers in the sense that he has zero end product. His crosses and passing are mostly ineffective and he doesn’t have a great shot/rarely takes any.

      Most of his play ends up with him getting to the goal line and getting boxed out/having nowhere to go. For the money being quoted there are much better options out there.
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      Reply #36: Jan 18, 2018 03:14:25 pm
      Everyone wants Gelson to be good, but like you say he’s not there yet and in my opinion it’s unlikely that he ever will be.

      He has electric pace and is quality on the dribble, but he differs from our wingers in the sense that he has zero end product. His crosses and passing are mostly ineffective and he doesn’t have a great shot/rarely takes any.

      Most of his play ends up with him getting to the goal line and getting boxed out/having nowhere to go. For the money being quoted there are much better options out there.

      Would you agree that Brahimi would make far more sense for LFC?
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      Reply #37: Jan 18, 2018 03:17:41 pm
      Still think Quincy Promes could be a good backup for the wide positions.
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      Reply #38: Jan 18, 2018 03:51:15 pm
      Would you agree that Brahimi would make far more sense for LFC?

      Definitely. Brahimi is a bit more talented. He's not up to scratch with Mane, Salah, and Martins in terms of pace, but at this point in his career he's more talented in every aspect than the latter and I'd say he's about on par with Mane and Salah in all other attributes.

      He's also got a brain which is probably the most important part of our current front 3 - Mane being the one who seems to be struggling the most in that aspect at the moment. Salah and Firmino really excel at being patient and picking the right pass, shot, cross, dribble, etc during what truly is a very quick to move counter attacking offense. They know what it takes to get the ball in the back of the net - something Suarez showed extensively as well.

      In my honest opinion, I'd love to see us go for Bruno Fernandes. If he could translate his form into our league (which I'm sure he can), he'd make us forget about Coutinho very quickly.
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      Reply #39: Jan 18, 2018 04:21:18 pm
      Definitely. Brahimi is a bit more talented. He's not up to scratch with Mane, Salah, and Martins in terms of pace, but at this point in his career he's more talented in every aspect than the latter and I'd say he's about on par with Mane and Salah in all other attributes.

      He's also got a brain which is probably the most important part of our current front 3 - Mane being the one who seems to be struggling the most in that aspect at the moment. Salah and Firmino really excel at being patient and picking the right pass, shot, cross, dribble, etc during what truly is a very quick to move counter attacking offense. They know what it takes to get the ball in the back of the net - something Suarez showed extensively as well.

      In my honest opinion, I'd love to see us go for Bruno Fernandes. If he could translate his form into our league (which I'm sure he can), he'd make us forget about Coutinho very quickly.

      Oh I *love* Bruno Fernandes. What a signing he was for Sporting. I've seen them live at the Alvalade twice this season and he always stands out.
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      Reply #40: Jan 19, 2018 04:59:12 am
      Oh I *love* Bruno Fernandes. What a signing he was for Sporting. I've seen them live at the Alvalade twice this season and he always stands out.

      Great shot on his boot. With the right coaching I think he could be a star.
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      Reply #41: Jan 19, 2018 09:42:57 am
      Touch of the Brad Bobley's?
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      Reply #42: Jan 19, 2018 11:27:55 am
      Great shot on his boot. With the right coaching I think he could be a star.

      I heard from a friend who is a journalist here in Portugal that Juventus was interested in Bruno but he opted for Sporting because he knew he would have more game time there.

      Smart of him if true. He could well be rotting on Juve's bench right now, but rather he's developing nicely at a club that plays some interesting football at the moment.

      He's got some decent experience despite his age, and I agree he could turn out to be something very special if he continues improving.
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      Reply #43: Jan 19, 2018 12:16:15 pm
      Still think Quincy Promes could be a good backup for the wide positions.

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      Reply #44: Jan 19, 2018 01:59:37 pm

      Let them take the risk, we can always buy him a season later for loads...
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      Reply #45: Jan 27, 2018 09:55:49 pm
      sorry after watching us lose at to WBA  i would take a punt on him coz at the moment we a missing a winger who can take a man on and cross the ball his accuracy of his crossing will improve with the coaching 
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      Reply #46: Jun 12, 2018 12:38:33 pm
      Weird that Doyle chooses to publish something like this. Could we reignite our prior interest?!

      https://twitter.com/LivEchoLFC/status/1006498476207824902
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      Reply #47: Jun 12, 2018 12:49:31 pm
      Would prefer we turned our attentions to Fernandes.
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      Reply #48: Jun 12, 2018 01:18:29 pm
      Would prefer we turned our attentions to Fernandes.

      I'm so desperate for some signing news I'd be excited signing Shaqiri at this point. Whether it's Fernandes, this cat or Shaqiri...just give me someone ;D
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      Reply #49: Jun 13, 2018 07:31:51 pm
      He's free, and very good.
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