Lazar Markovic (Fiorentina)

I would be amazed if we managed to get £16M for him.

From Rib's favourite journalist.

https://twitter.com/MelissaReddy_/status/890140372311191554

Another gamble gone wrong FOOTBALL WISE [before any of our financial fans correct me]; a total waste of time but... asking £16m from an Italian team?  At least we can have a laugh about it. 😂 🙄

Seems to be the only transfers our owners seem keem to do...

I would be amazed if we managed to get £16M for him.

From Rib's favourite journalist.

https://twitter.com/MelissaReddy_/status/890140372311191554

Mirror reported 2 days ago that we would accept 13m from Hull and there is nothing in Italian press about this. I'd be quite shocked if this was true.

Be amazed if we get 1.6M for him, never mind 16!

Another classic buy cheap, not so cheap and hope it turns to gold. Another classic failure. Penny wise pound foolish. Sack the whole committee that was involved with this deal. Are they still around? Or still around trying to over negotiate deals to impress the owners and yet comes to nothing? Sorry, I'm frustrated, very very frustrated. The restless ones.

Another classic buy cheap, not so cheap and hope it turns to gold. Another classic failure. Penny wise pound foolish. Sack the whole committee that was involved with this deal. Are they still around? Or still around trying to over negotiate deals to impress the owners and yet comes to nothing? Sorry, I'm frustrated, very very frustrated. The restless ones.

I believe, they have become the apology committee now.

Another classic buy cheap, not so cheap and hope it turns to gold. Another classic failure. Penny wise pound foolish. Sack the whole committee that was involved with this deal. Are they still around? Or still around trying to over negotiate deals to impress the owners and yet comes to nothing? Sorry, I'm frustrated, very very frustrated. The restless ones.

Yes how dare the club not ensure that every single signing is 100% perfect and is a brilliant player!!

FFS guys no club has a 100% record at signings, this lad looked a very good prospect at the time we bought him but it didn't work out for us or him, it happens.

Yes how dare the club not ensure that every single signing is 100% perfect and is a brilliant player!!

FFS guys no club has a 100% record at signings, this lad looked a very good prospect at the time we bought him but it didn't work out for us or him, it happens.

It was a stupid buy at that time though, haven't only just bought Lallana, there was absolutely no need to go spunk another £20 million on Markovic, who let's be honest while not being as good is very much the same time of attacking midfielder!!

It was a stupid buy at that time though, haven't only just bought Lallana, there was absolutely no need to go spunk another £20 million on Markovic, who let's be honest while not being as good is very much the same time of attacking midfielder!!

That's a fair enough point but at the time he was considered hot property and an exciting signing by most people. The frustrating thing is that you can see there is a good player in him but for whatever reason the pieces just don't all seem to fit together.

That's a fair enough point but at the time he was considered hot property and an exciting signing by most people. The frustrating thing is that you can see there is a good player in him but for whatever reason the pieces just don't all seem to fit together.

The fact he has failed to impress with us, even had a loan deal cut short by Sporting and then not even do enough for Hull to make them want him, says enough. Mid table Championship team is around his standard, reckon he would be alright somewhere like Villa or that standard in another country.

Yes how dare the club not ensure that every single signing is 100% perfect and is a brilliant player!!

FFS guys no club has a 100% record at signings, this lad looked a very good prospect at the time we bought him but it didn't work out for us or him, it happens.

At the time of purchase they said 20m because he had potential. I said at the time it was a potential rip off.

At the time of purchase they said 20m because he had potential. I said at the time it was a potential rip off.

Everyone please clear the path for the mayor of "I told you" town.

Looks like a loan to Watford.

He was hyped as the new wunderkind  winger who was going to terrorise defences.

A Watford loan is about right for him. 

A sale for anything we can get ... is about right for us.

He is/was one of the worst players to pull on the shirt since Woy was in charge

He was hyped as the new wunderkind  winger who was going to terrorise defences.

A Watford loan is about right for him. 

A sale for anything we can get ... is about right for us.

I can't understand why we refused a reasonable offer. 12m would be enough I think.

I can't understand why we refused a reasonable offer. 12m would be enough I think.

Well if he has another decent loan spell with Watford we will get £20 mill easy for him next Summer.

It's about time we stood firm with our player valuations.

A masterclass of a signing by Brendan. Even worse than Benteke. Splashing money on this type of players is what held us back so many times.

A masterclass of a signing by Brendan. Even worse than Benteke. Splashing money on this type of players is what held us back so many times.

Benteke was actually Roger's signing. Mind boggles.

Well if he has another decent loan spell with Watford we will get £20 mill easy for him next Summer.

It's about time we stood firm with our player valuations.

5 million it is then.

Honestly this guy is total sh*te.

Feel sorry for the lad he can't even get a loan deal.

Feel sorry for the lad he can't even get a loan deal.

Seriously, nice to see we are ruining the kids career. Surely we should just grant him a release if we aren't going to play him or let him fight for a spot.

So is he still on or books?

So is he still on or books?

Yes, but there are still some windows open so he could be offloaded.

Seriously, nice to see we are ruining the kids career. Surely we should just grant him a release if we aren't going to play him or let him fight for a spot.

It works both ways because it's likely he wouldn't want to be released from a highly paid contract that he probably won't get matched elsewhere

We will struggle to give him away.

Will a team looking to win things want him? Nah. And what about a team who will probably be fighting relegation? Will they want a wimp?

I've never seen anything in him to suggest he's a professional footballer. Hope a second tier spanish club show an interest, but we will still be supplementing his wages.

5 million it is then.

Honestly this guy is total sh*te.

I think he's mid table quality.

But even mid table quality is fetching 20 plus million these days.

Looks like no one wants him through even as a loaner.

I've never seen anything in him to suggest he's a professional footballer.

Agreed, has to be one of the worst signings ever. Is he even a football player? I've genuinely seen better at Sunday league

Agreed, has to be one of the worst signings ever. Is he even a football player? I've genuinely seen better at Sunday league

He's not that bad he looked decent at Hull last season but he's a million miles away from top 4 club quality.

Come on Klopp work your magic on the lad, I feel he just needs a combination of Klopp hugs and kicks up the arse, there IS a player there and now is the final chance to prove it Lazar.

Come on Klopp work your magic on the lad, I feel he just needs a combination of Klopp hugs and kicks up the arse, there IS a player there and now is the final chance to prove it Lazar.

Where's this player hiding?

Plays with his head down, can't pass, shoot or use his body to retain possession.

That one game vs Sunderland is still his only par performance.

Gonna end up being released and finding some obscure club to pay him.

Another company policy driven, 'Value for Money', punt; bought only because they thought his sell on value would increase and not for footballing reasons.

Rodgers clearly did not want him [did not play him] - anyone who says that he actively sought and bought Markovic is either a F***ing moron or a liar. 😁

Just another flop in a long list of speculative flops sadly.

Another company policy driven, 'Value for Money', punt; bought only because they thought his sell on value would increase and not for footballing reasons.

Rodgers clearly did not want him [did not play him] - anyone who says that he actively sought and bought Markovic is either a f**king moron or a liar. 😁

Just another flop in a long list of speculative flops sadly.

Brendan probably didn't want Markovic, because he really miss managed him and he pushed for a loan move to get away from him.
Markovic is 23, he could become good.

Brendan probably didn't want Markovic, because he really miss managed him and he pushed for a loan move to get away from him.
Markovic is 23, he could become good.

 I remember that home game against Basel in which we had to win to qualify. Markovic came on as a sub and got himself sent off. Whether that was a red card is debatable, but, the point is that he got sent off. And, then he went on loan to different clubs and none of the clubs wants to make the deal permanent. Silva, the current Watford manager, is reputed to always get the best out of players. He is supposed to have a reputation of making the players deliver more than they are capable of delivering. He didn't want Markovic at Watford and neither was Markovics spell at Hull eye catching. Yes, there were a few good performances here and there, but, nothing to suggest to Silva that he wanted Markovic permanently. Klopp thinks the team is better off without Markovic so much so that he has not named Markovic in the CL squad.

Such has been the unanimous verdict on him that I don't even know why we paid 20mn for him. Now, in all this, how exactly did Rodgers mis-manage Markovic?

Brendan probably didn't want Markovic, because he really miss managed him and he pushed for a loan move to get away from him.
Markovic is 23, he could become good.

Yeah, he didn't want him - that's what I said.

So, Jürgen then: I assume the same accusation of "mis-management" applies? 😒

Or... or... just throwing this out there - maybe neither of them rate the lad as being good enough and certainly not as highly as the computer program did. 😉

Yeah, he didn't want him - that's what I said.

So, Jürgen then: I assume the same applies? 😒

Haha just remembered that season where we were struggling under Brendan and the loaning out of lazy Lazar was heralded as one of the main reasons.

Of course that was all bollocks but I cannot for the life of me see why we haven't found the lad a loan move elsewhere. Surely somebody wants him somewhere?

Even the move back to Turkey looks dead.

Haha just remembered that season where we were struggling under Brendan and the loaning out of lazy Lazar was heralded as one of the main reasons.

That and not building the team round "Super" Mario. 😂
How many games did that goat get under Jürgen?

Then again: maybe that's where Jürgen went wrong (in that first season) too so, who knows, maybe they were onto something after all. Nah... they didn't mention it at the time so that theory clearly had went walkies by then. 😂😂😂

So anyhow... can't give the kid away. 😯

I had high hopes for the lad because he has such an exotic name. Lazar Markovic rhymes with Valar Morghulis... I guess.

That and not building the team round "Super" Mario. 😂
How many games did that goat get under Jürgen?

Then again: maybe that's where Jürgen went wrong (in that first season) too so, who knows, maybe they were onto something after all. Nah... they didn't mention it at the time so that theory clearly had went walkies by then. 😂😂😂

So anyhow... can't give the kid away. 😯

Comedy gold indeed 

I feel sorry for the lad. No way he should have wound up here. He's ended up a journeyman footballer when in reality he wasn't ready for a move to a club like ourselves.

Fair fucks Benfica aren't a sh*t small club, but he should have stayed there learning his trade before even thinking about moving to a tougher league.

I think there might have been someone around him looking to make a quick buck and to sell him to the first daft bas**rds with a supercomputer.

We were the daft bas**rds looking to find a cheap way to the top and we got our fingers burnt.

For the lad himself he's 23 and been shipped around all over the shop.

F**k knows what is next for him, but i've got a feeling we are waiting for some money for him that will never come before we put him out of his Anfield misery.

A lot of people had Moreno sold because he was on the bench or not in the squad last season, but it turns out, Klopp pulled him out to spend the whole season coaching him, and has now put him back in the first team.

So it might be a wise move to hold back on slagging Markovic, for now, as Klopp hasn't made any of us privy to his plans, and as we saw with Moreno, it doesn't really pay to second guess the boss.

A lot of people had Moreno sold because he was on the bench or not in the squad last season, but it turns out, Klopp pulled him out to spend the whole season coaching him, and has now put him back in the first team.

So it might be a wise move to hold back on slagging Markovic, for now, as Klopp hasn't made any of us privy to his plans, and as we saw with Moreno, it doesn't really pay to second guess the boss.

Fair point on Moreno. If Klopp makes Markovic into a productive player for us, it will be one of the greatest man-management achievements of his coaching career. I think he is very good technically so I'd love to see him develop the combativeness and confidence to help us. Seems like the longest of shots though.
 

We all know players that don't work out here end up at Stoke City.
Stokes future team 

                     Markovic       Balotelli        Benteke
                                           
                                        Alberto
                               Allen                Sahin       

                         Flano  Toure   Sakho   Smith

                                        Jones
 

Fair point on Moreno. If Klopp makes Markovic into a productive player for us, it will be one of the greatest man-management achievements of his coaching career. I think he is very good technically so I'd love to see him develop the combativeness and confidence to help us. Seems like the longest of shots though.

I said it when he first came here and I haven't seen anything to make me change my mind; he has all the tools, he just needs to grow a pair of balls.
If he can do that, he can contribute.
He's quick, technically good and has a bit of flair.
He lacks work rate and the balls to not only take a tackle, but also get in his opponents face.

That's how I see it anyway.
If Klopp is keeping him around, it's probably not for shits and giggles

If Klopp turns him into a footballer I'll get "Boss Tha!" tattooed on my arse.

First post "Liverpool want £16m for the Serbian". 

Hasn't kicked a ball since Jürgen arrived and now we are being asked to believe that Jürgen wants him to stay and is going to make him whole again? Thank F**k no one wanted him then; eh?  

He was offered up for sale - presumably because Jürgen wanted rid (Unless he was being sold by the T.C.? Nah, that can't be, sure Jürgen's in full control) - but no c**t was daft enough to pay the asking price. 

No amount of Whiskey, spin or delusional bullshit can dress that truth up.

for now, as Klopp hasn't made any of us privy to his plans

Actually Klopp said quite unambiguously that Markovic wasn't on his plans and that "there will be a club out there who needs him"

There's no master plan to this, just a failure to get rid of someone who's surplus to requirements

Actually Klopp said quite unambiguously that Markovic wasn't on his plans and that "there will be a club out there who needs him"

There's no master plan to this, just a failure to get rid of someone who's surplus to requirements

Did he?

He also said Coutinho's bad back was genuine, and people have accused the player of putting it on, and Klopp blagging it.
So I'll wait and see.

Did he?

He also said Coutinho's bad back was genuine, and people have accused the player of putting it on, and Klopp blagging it.
So I'll wait and see.

He did: "with Lazar, it's no secret that if he finds a club then we will negotiate". And you're the one who told us to take what Klopp says at face value at all times because he "talks straight". But apparently this holds only when it suits your argument.

He did: "with Lazar, it's no secret that if he finds a club then we will negotiate". And you're the one who told us to take what Klopp says at face value at all times because he "talks straight". But apparently this holds only when it suits your argument.

Yeah, here's the thing, I didn't say he was lying about Coutinho's back, perhaps that nuance escaped you? 

It's others that want it both ways, not me.
I'm fully prepared to take what he said at face value, which is that he will "negotiate", but as that hasn't happened, Markovic may well get a run out in one of the cups, and if he performs well, who knows.
Klopp has also shown that he can change his mind, his plans, his tactics etc
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that he changes his mind about a player as well.

Yeah, here's the thing, I didn't say he was lying about Coutinho's back, perhaps that nuance escaped you? 

It's others that want it both ways, not me.
I'm fully prepared to take what he said at face value, which is that he will "negotiate", but as that hasn't happened, Markovic may well get a run out in one of the cups, and if he performs well, who knows.
Klopp has also shown that he can change his mind, his plans, his tactics etc
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that he changes his mind about a player as well.

Yeah, sure. Whatever fits the narrative. Funny how the possibility of Klopp changing his mind only occurs to you when trying to spin a failure into a positive.

Yeah, sure. Whatever fits the narrative. Funny how the possibility of Klopp changing his mind only occurs to you when trying to spin a failure into a positive.

What narrative?
That's more your bag isn't it?

Same old, same old.
If you're going to attack me for having an opinion, attack everyone's opinion.
Or is it just my opinion you have an issue with?

What narrative?
That's more your bag isn't it?

Same old, same old.
If you're going to attack me for having an opinion, attack everyone's opinion.
Or is it just my opinion you have an issue with?

I don't understand what other people have to do with this - are you going to randomly mention the fact I'm an economist as well? I was replying to your post, and I'm not attacking you, but rather your hypocrisy. Apparently Klopp's words are only to be taken at face value when it suits the narrative. Failing to sell deadwood is now part of the master plan.

I don't understand what other people have to do with this - are you going to randomly mention the fact I'm an economist as well? I was replying to your post, and I'm not attacking you, but rather your hypocrisy. Apparently Klopp's words are only to be taken at face value when it suits the narrative. Failing to sell deadwood is now part of the master plan.

Try actually reading what I wrote.

And yes, you are attacking my opinion, at no point did I say that I didn't believe what Klopp says, only that other people made a lot of the fact that they didn't believe what he said about coutinho's back injury.

So kindly bugger off and have a whinge at someone else, and stop trying to pick fights, something you are doing more and more of.

Try actually reading what I wrote.

And yes, you are attacking my opinion, at no point did I say that I didn't believe what Klopp says, only that other people made a lot of the fact that they didn't believe what he said about coutinho's back injury.

So kindly bugger off and have a whinge at someone else, and stop trying to pick fights, something you are doing more and more of.

"With Lazar, it's no secret that if he finds a club then we will negotiate". 

"Klopp hasn't made any of us privy to his plans". 

Excuse me if I don't buy into the desperate need to try to spin failure into positives, and rather see this as clutching at straws. You can change the goalposts as much as you like, I never brought other people into it or even Coutinho.

"With Lazar, it's no secret that if he finds a club then we will negotiate". 

"Klopp hasn't made any of us privy to his plans". 

Excuse me if I don't buy into the desperate need to try to spin failure into positives, and rather see this as clutching at straws. You can change the goalposts as much as you like, I never brought other people into it or even Coutinho.

Yeah, because you posted it after I'd posted when I didn't know he'd said it.
I accepted your word on what Klopp had said, and then only said that he can also change his mind, given that the player is here  when our cup comps start.

What's so F***ing difficult to understand about that?
I said all of that about Couts before you decided to pile in and start playing silly buggers.

You're just determined to pick a fight, for some peculiar reason.
Go and pick one elsewhere, I'm not playing your silly games.

Round here we have busses saying 'some people are gay get over it'

Markovic is sh*t get over it.

What a huge waste of money.

Klopp has no interest to even select him in match days squads.

It's transfers like this which is why clauses such as up to 20m...5m with added bonuses based on success are negotiated a lot in modern football.

Has Jürgen changed his mind about Lazar yet?

Has Jürgen changed his mind about Lazar yet?

Ask the voices in your head.
They seem to have a direct line to him.

What Lazar doing these days making tea at Melwood?

Ask the voices in your head.
They seem to have a direct line to him.

 

Markovic is a great guy with great character.

One to go in January.

One to go in January.

What an absolute waste of money that was

Get some money for him. No more loans.

Get some money for him. No more loans.

I’d even take a selection box or Lynx Africa gift set tbh.

I’d even take a selection box or Lynx Africa gift set tbh.

Joking is good and all but... is it one with or without the body scrubber??

Joking is good and all but... is it one with or without the body scrubber??

Don’t start f***in’ about - you want rid or not?

Realistic demands.

Has he been playing in the U23 side? Literally haven’t heard anything about him all season. Forgot we hadn’t sold him already.

https://twitter.com/AnfieldHQ/status/958349529983709185

Good deal but more money not to spend at the end of the day.

How are we getting 15m for him? He's been out of the team for about 5 years

How are we getting £15 for him? He's been out of the team for about 5 years

Fixed it for you

Even the £15 million bid has been binned off, they want him on loan as they're close to paying £18 million to re-sign Andre Ayew.

Even the £15 million bid has been binned off, they want him on loan as they're close to paying £18 million to re-sign Andre Ayew.

Knew it was to good to be true, another loan. I almost feel sorry for the lad.

Loaned out to RSC Anderlecht, interesting move. I'll be able to watch him every game then. Anderlecht will be in Play Off I and they have a good manager. Though I do have a feeling that if Vanhaezebrouck (their manager) sticks to his usual formation, that he'll be used as an attacking wingback  . Hopefully he sticks him behind their striker along with Gerkens.

Loaned out to RSC Anderlecht, interesting move. I'll be able to watch him every game then. Anderlecht will be in Play Off I and they have a good manager. Though I do have a feeling that if Vanhaezebrouck (their manager) sticks to his usual formation, that he'll be used as an attacking wingback  .

How physical is the Belgian League Danzel?

He mostly just didn’t seem up to/for it physically to me.

How physical is the Belgian League Danzel?

He mostly just didn’t seem up to/for it physically to me.

Not very physical in terms of very high paced, open games. It's a pretty defensive league though with the focus on well organised teams and quite a few physical battles, bar a few good attacking teams, of which Anderlecht should be one (they have been very poor so far this season). As an example: I've seen plenty of strikers failing in the Belgian league, moving to the Dutch Eredivisie and becoming top scorers (Top 3) there because the Dutch league is very poor defensively compared to the much tougher Belgian league.

Anderlecht should suit him in terms of manager and playing style. He really should be running circles around the majority of defenders here, going on his time at Benfica. Also thought he looked fairly good at Hull. Not sure where he is at fitness-wise of course.

Looking at their transfer business, he might actually be playing as some kind of false 9, they don't really have any good strikers right now and Hanni, who today moved to Spartak Moscow, was playing as a false 9. Very curious about how he's going to be used. Either striker, behind the striker or offensive right wingback (hopefully not).

Not physical in terms of very high paced, open games. It's a pretty defensive league though with the focus on well organised teams and quite a few physical battles, bar a few good attacking teams, of which Anderlecht should be one (they have been very poor so far this season). Anderlecht should suit him in terms of manager and playing style. He really should be running circles around the majority of defenders here, going on his time at Benfica. Also thought he looked fairly good at Hull. Not sure where he is at fitness-wise of course.

Looking at their transfer business, he might actually be playing as some kind of false 9, they don't really have any good strikers right now and Hanni, who today moved to Spartak Moscow, was playing as a false 9. Very curious about how he's going to be used. Either striker, behind the striker or offensive right wingback (hopefully not).

I thought he flitted in and out at Hull and was on the edges of the game a lot.

Had high hopes when we signed him - I thought he was gonna develop into a “Mo-lite” type.

I thought he flitted in and out at Hull and was on the edges of the game a lot.

Had high hopes when we signed him - I thought he was gonna develop into a “Mo-lite” type.

Had high hopes for him too, was very excited when we signed him and he has so many good attributes that Klopp actually likes in players (his pace, tenacity, good with the ball at his feet etc). Think that red card in the CL game against Basel completely killed him mentally, he was never the same after that.

Vanhaezebrouck is one of the best coaches in the Belgian League. If Markovic listens to him and puts in the effort that VH asks from his players, I think he can come good. He still has some time to grow to his best level for the Play Offs. He'll be playing some close and physical games against the League's best, hopefully he plays well and regains some of his confidence so he can move back to a decent team and enjoy his footy again. Must be tough on a young lad after a big move at such a young age, pretty much ruined his career so far. He hasn't really done well in his other loan moves, but I do kind of feel for him if I'm honest.

I see there's a couple of Serbian lads there already,so that'll help him settle i guess.

He must have really been sh*t in training because I don't even remember the last time I saw him out on the pitch for us!

A indictment of the so called transfer committee as Rodgers didn't want him and sadly for Lazar didn't fit into Jurgens style.

Moneyball signing proved to be a waste.