Atletico Madrid 1-1 Liverpool (5-4 pens) Audi Cup Final: In game and Post Match

It was a sh*t penalty from Hendo, it would have been sh*t even if it was just a kick about in the park.
Having said that it was a decent run out for the team and we played ok.

What is Hendo bringing to the team that says he should be in every first 11 when he is fit? To be a captain you have to be a player that can't be left out. Coutinho is the obvious choice.

What is Hendo bringing to the team that says he should be in every first 11 when he is fit? To be a captain you have to be a player that can't be left out. Coutinho is the obvious choice.

That would be the manager's decision right?


Might be best if you left footballing matters to the experts and stick to your abacus.

What is Hendo bringing to the team that says he should be in every first 11 when he is fit? To be a captain you have to be a player that can't be left out. Coutinho is the obvious choice.

He does the job that the manager asks from him better than anyone else in the squad.

You cannot play a front three with two attacking mids without another player sitting in front of the back four and setting the tempo.

So Henderson's gonna be this season public enemy number 1 I take it?

What is Hendo bringing to the team that says he should be in every first 11 when he is fit? To be a captain you have to be a player that can't be left out. Coutinho is the obvious choice.

It's just a F***ing armband. England's obsession with it is totally ridiculous.

Normally 1st team playing are the ones playing decent sides...there is no A team and B team.

Go look at Spurs/Aresenal/United and talk to me about #12-22 and how wonderful they are and how they can beat up decent sides.

Bunch of f**king nutters coming out already in pre-season.

Maybe I expect #12-17 to be of similar quality as the first team? Because how many games do you think that strong 11 squad is gonna be able to play together this season due to injuries?
How do you cope with PL games on weekend and CL games mid-week?

Against C. Palace, Hertha and even against W. Brom.

Fit Woodburn in Hendo's position and do you think our team would improve or not?

It's just a F***ing armband. England's obsession with it is totally ridiculous.

True.

Also I struggle to see any correlation between a missed penalty and any captaincy credentials.

Would love Ripa to enlighten me.

I treat this game as the first real test mate. They're also the first team that parked the bus against us and we again showed that we really struggled to even have any shot on target.

That's your first mistake. We weren't using our starting lineup. It was a mixture of players who are using this for fitness/match sharpness and (for many) are playing their second match in two days.

What is Hendo bringing to the team that says he should be in every first 11 when he is fit? To be a captain you have to be a player that can't be left out. Coutinho is the obvious choice.

We've got no idea what happens in training or in the locker room. Hendo could be getting on guys' backs and trying to get the most out of them while Coutinho could be practicing capoeira with Bobby and Alberto in the corner... We've got f**k all idea what goes on with the team where they spend 80%+ of their time together.

Fit Woodburn in Hendo's position and do you think our team would improve or not?

Get a grip. 

You really think Woodburn can take Hendersons place in the deepest midfield position?

Talking bollocks mate.

I KNEW he was going to miss.  Just knew it .

Don't know why ..... just did .

I thought he'd miss too mate, just think the weight of responsibility is a heavy burden for Jordan. Where with Stevie you'd be supremely confident, when it comes to Hendo the whole approach just screamed a lack of conviction or belief.

Maybe I expect #12-17 to be of similar quality as the first team? Because how many games do you think that strong 11 squad is gonna be able to play together this season due to injuries?
How do you cope with PL games on weekend and CL games mid-week?

Really,

I am sure every team in Europe would love to have #12 as good as they're best players.

Fantasy land your living in.

That's your first mistake. We weren't using our starting lineup. It was a mixture of players who are using this for fitness/match sharpness and (for many) are playing their second match in two days.

How could it possibly be our "first real test" today when we played 90 minutes just yesterday. Bloody nonsense. I guess people will use everything they can to confirm their own biases and opinions.

I treat this game as the first real test mate. They're also the first team that parked the bus against us and we again showed that we really struggled to even have any shot on target.

Atletico

They are Champions League Semi Finalists and Finalists for the last two seasons.

They are reknown for one of the best if not THE best defensive set ups in Europe.

They have Simeone who was my second choice to Klopp to take over LFC.


The boys did well  and blew Bayern away  with our  "first" team .

Reasons To Be Cheerful .

Get a grip. 

You really think Woodburn can take Hendersons place in the deepest midfield position?

Talking bollocks mate.

I think his work rate and passing ability makes him a candidate in the centre. I would trial that in league cup. It's been a while since I saw a 17 year old which such passing ability. Gerrard his name was. He seems light years ahead of Can and Hendo right now. I doubt we will find a spot for him as a forward right now since it is heavily contested. Klopp even said he will be looking to keep him in midfield. He has been playing there in pre season.

Of course you are, it's just a simple observation that if you randomly choose to treat a meaningless pre-season friendly where we started the likes of Danny Ward and Jon Flanagan and rested some of our best players as a "first real test" doesn't make it to be the case. It's still a simple pre-season fixture and fretting about it or drawing conclusions based on it is quite funny - either on a penalty miss or on whoever is a "game changer"

Fair enough mate. It was a bit of a knee-jerk reaction about the penalty. Fact is, for a long time I've wondered what exactly our captain brings to this team.

Fair enough mate. It was a bit of a knee-jerk reaction about the penalty. Fact is, for a long time I've wondered what exactly our captain brings to this team.

Which is also a fair enough opinion, though I disagree (and as I said before, I think a lot of people who share that opinion are just using the moment to help them "confirm" their views). Anyway, I used to be one of Hendo's main critics in this forum, but I think today he's often harshly criticised here. I think he was doing a fine job at DM up to his injury last season. What worries me the most is if he, like Sturridge, can be trusted over a whole season.

Atletico

They are Champions League Semi Finalists and Finalists for the last two seasons.

They are reknown for one of the best if not THE best defensive set up in Europe.

They have Simeone who was my second choice to Klopp to take over LFC.


The boys did well  and blew Bayern away  with our  "first" team .

Reasons To Be Cheerful .

They only brought in most of the first team players after the 60th minute though. I wish we could have played our strongest 11 against their strongest 11 to see how well we deal with a strong defensive side but of course that's not possible the way this tournament was scheduled.

F**k me.

Great ain't it?

Griezemanns hair what a nonse.

Yeah I know nothing worthwhile to add but I thought I would join into the rest of the sh*te posted on here.

Very true. Remember that game Grujic totally changed against...

And there was also that match against...

Yes it makes perfect sense!

To be fair I can't think of many instances where anyone could say "do you remember that game when Hendo turned it around".

Maybe I expect #12-17 to be of similar quality as the first team? Because how many games do you think that strong 11 squad is gonna be able to play together this season due to injuries?
How do you cope with PL games on weekend and CL games mid-week?

No, but FSG thinks otherwise, you have 2 full squads of players, they are good enough, otherwise they wouldn't be in the first team. Don't argue with FSG, they knows best.

Griezemanns hair what a nonse.

Yeah I know nothing worthwhile to add but I thought I would join into the rest of the sh*te posted on here.

 

Agree though.

I'd not sign him based on that hair alone.