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      Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #782: Aug 12, 2017 04:33:56 pm
      I think people will understand why Phillipe, luis, masch want to goto Barcelona, not only do you win things but you don't have score 3 or 4 every game to get a draw
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #783: Aug 12, 2017 04:35:01 pm
      The performance of our midfield shows the bad mistake of getting rid of Joe Allen, who seems to have more go in him than Can has shown since he's been here.

      Joe Allen was average mate, same as Can, same as Gino, same as Hendo. They're all solid 7/10 kinda players. Good sometimes, occasionally excellent but mostly just solid. Problem is solid doesn't win you much.
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #784: Aug 12, 2017 04:40:02 pm
      Heno is sh*t he just pass it sideways Gino just OK can is slow as F**k
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #785: Aug 12, 2017 04:45:21 pm
      Their 3rd was a yard, at least, offside. I mean don't want to drag up the past as but they would've scored if Reina was in goal, he would've punched him in the belly..
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #786: Aug 12, 2017 04:48:31 pm
      Mane will be next player will be hard keep when go other top club knows how win things sad true we not going win anything with klopp or fsg both need go
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      Reply #787: Aug 12, 2017 04:55:14 pm
      Just f***in' livid. Its the same f***in sh*t that plagues us year after year. Let the lower table clubs run all over us.

      The same issues have bitten us again. Poor set piece marking, poor passing, take away and just some attrocius first mistakes. Mignolet with terrible clearances. No man marking. Same sh*t again. Whatever it takes get Van Dijk. Because we MUST fix that back. If he wants to come then lets make it happen. Otherwise we will have another season of fighting for fourth.

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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #788: Aug 12, 2017 04:55:57 pm
      Mane will be next player will be hard keep when go other top club knows how win things sad true we not going win anything with klopp or fsg both need go
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #789: Aug 12, 2017 04:57:14 pm
      Joe Allen was average mate, same as Can, same as Gino, same as Hendo. They're all solid 7/10 kinda players. Good sometimes, occasionally excellent but mostly just solid. Problem is solid doesn't win you much.

      I would agree if you look at previous seasons to his last, but then he  started to get grip with his position and he is playing great for Stoke in midfield. Henderson shouldn't even be in the team let alone Captain.(flatters to deceive does, Hendo- too many side passes) Gini is also a waste of space, and if Can could run he might be of some use, but he runs as if he is running through deep mud.
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #790: Aug 12, 2017 05:00:27 pm
      Joe Allen was average mate, same as Can, same as Gino, same as Hendo. They're all solid 7/10 kinda players. Good sometimes, occasionally excellent but mostly just solid. Problem is solid doesn't win you much.

      These are the midfielders you want/need in your team, but not in the specialist positions imo.
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #791: Aug 12, 2017 05:06:09 pm
      These are the midfielders you want/need in your team, but not in the specialist positions imo.

      No team with ambition wants Gini in the side.
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #792: Aug 12, 2017 05:08:12 pm
      I'd like to see Mane and Salah switched, fair enough they both scored today but surely it's better having them on their stronger side.
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #793: Aug 12, 2017 05:10:43 pm
      Far too many walking around smiling after conceding goals today. Not enough angry snides driven to win. Soft underbelly exposed again today.
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #794: Aug 12, 2017 05:19:24 pm
      Crap defending on their goals but my God did they have massive luck as well especially on goals 2 and 3. We could easily have scored about 6 goals, had one hit the post which just missed falling into Salah's lap. I thought Salah and Wijnaldum were very wasteful in front of goals but if we can fix the defence a bit, please just pay £100 million for VVD or another top top CB, then we have such an outrageous attack this year that we may be able to do a Newcastle and quite simply outscore our opponents in every game.
      There was plenty of good things in that game
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #795: Aug 12, 2017 05:19:24 pm
      Hendo pissed me off today more than anyone, so scruffy and clumsy. It's crap losing especially after coming back but I'm not going to get too carried away after the first game.
      I'm curious as to what happens now in both team selection and transfer/s.
      Watford were well organised, we helped them with that task. You could see we had the quality there but the defence and goalie are wimps. We need a Goalie who commands that area. The midfield didn't look to great either, they did improve to medium level quality in the second half.
      Still don't know how a great coach isn't getting our team confident on the ball to not get dispossessed so easy, should be able to flick that thing around. Maybe it's all about nerves really.
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #796: Aug 12, 2017 05:19:40 pm
      No team with ambition wants Gini in the side.

      Haha, I actually think he is decent, and as Scott mentioned, a 7/10 player, I think he would shine along side an AMC and DM, same with Hendo and Can tbh.

      I'd like to see Mane and Salah switched, fair enough they both scored today but surely it's better having them on their stronger side.

      Problem is, Salah's strongest when cutting in :(

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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #797: Aug 12, 2017 05:45:59 pm
      Far too many walking around smiling after conceding goals today. Not enough angry snides driven to win. Soft underbelly exposed again today.

      Why be angry?

      Perform like sh*te and still have your spot in the side next week.

      No pride or desire to improve. Refuse to believe the same sh*t gets turned out each week if any effort goes in to actually getting better on the training paddock.

      We still have a left sided defence of Moreno and Lovren for F**k sake.

      We refuse to go for a CB other than VVD but settle for a left back that can't get ahead of Moreno and Milner?

      Can still score goals though so 🤷🏻‍♂️
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #798: Aug 12, 2017 05:55:04 pm

       :mad: :mad:

      Crazy how that was not given.
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #799: Aug 12, 2017 06:00:55 pm
      Just f***in' livid. Its the same f***in sh*t that plagues us year after year. Let the lower table clubs run all over us.

      The same issues have bitten us again. Poor set piece marking, poor passing, take away and just some attrocius first mistakes. Mignolet with terrible clearances. No man marking. Same sh*t again. Whatever it takes get Van Dijk. Because we MUST fix that back. If he wants to come then lets make it happen. Otherwise we will have another season of fighting for fourth.



      It's most predictable thing in the world. Same players, same problems. F***ing furious that we dropped points today.
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #800: Aug 12, 2017 06:04:27 pm
      We've been done by the linesman again btw. Performance not good but in their first goal Okaka was offside and interfered with play and their third goal was offside too.

      Once again the standard of linesmen is F***ing atrocious. Get the technology in and get these F***ing clowns out of the game
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #801: Aug 12, 2017 06:07:31 pm
      We've been done by the linesman again btw. Performance not good but in their first goal Okaka was offside and interfered with play and their third goal was offside too.

      Once again the standard of linesmen is f**king atrocious. Get the technology in and get these f**king clowns out of the game

      Exactly mate. We can analyse the game (and define every example of poor play - the whole game was shocking), but at the end of the day, we scored 3 goals (somehow) and would have had 3 points from game 1 had it not been for the officials turning a blind eye to the most blatant of offsides.

      Yet, the media and commentaries all talk about how we were 'held to a draw'. Not as simple as that!
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #802: Aug 12, 2017 06:12:21 pm
      On other note crystal palace sh*t we can't beat these Home we may as well pack in
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      Re: Watford 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #803: Aug 12, 2017 06:14:03 pm
      I think a little perspective is called for. Yes we didn't play well, but we came back from being 1-0 down then 2-1 down, ought really to have won it from there but conceded a late sucker punch. We had to deal with a lot of emotional turmoil with the Coutinho thing the day before, and it's the first game of the season.

      Salah looked like he has the potential to be a weapon, and as Chelsea showed it could have been a lot worse. It's a point, we move on, but sign some players FFS.
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      Reply #804: Aug 12, 2017 06:24:43 pm
      We've been done by the linesman again btw. Performance not good but in their first goal Okaka was offside and interfered with play and their third goal was offside too.

      Once again the standard of linesmen is f**king atrocious. Get the technology in and get these f**king clowns out of the game

      They look embarrassingly unfit as well. Compare officials on the continent and they're all lean and professional looking. The English officials look grey and bloated as if they've stumbled out of the pub. A truly pathetic sight.

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