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      Naby Keita Player Thread

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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #630: Feb 04, 2019 02:29:36 pm
      Oh Wow with a choice between Lallana and Keita I'd go Keita every single time, at least with Keita you know there is a great player there who just needs a bit confidence and feel for our game. With Lallana you know its just a Cruyff turn specialist with zero end product.

      Well with the injuries to the defense and the very good chance of playing Fab in the back four for a game or four now would be a very good  time for Keita to step up and become the player that we thought we had bought from RB Leipzig
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      Reply #631: Feb 04, 2019 10:00:27 pm
      It's clear to me Keita should be playing the CAM position similar to Ox last season with Fabinho and one of Gini/Hendo behind.

      He just doesn't have the physicality or vision to play CM.
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      Reply #632: Feb 04, 2019 10:02:01 pm
      Actually thought he did OK tonight. Ran direct at times and beat guys, used the ball well enough. An improvement imho.
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      Reply #633: Feb 04, 2019 10:06:04 pm
      Much better in the second half and the only one risking a pass or run into the opposition. Shame Origi is completely useless.
      That second half was what has been missing from him although as mentioned above he needs to bulk up for this league.
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      Reply #634: Feb 04, 2019 10:08:04 pm
      He wasn't the worst performer tonight, did ok at the end.
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      Reply #635: Feb 05, 2019 12:00:07 am
      He has wheels, he runs at players but the final ball or shot doesn't arrive.

      I'm sure I've seen him do it on YouTube last year so I pray he can find it with us.
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      Reply #636: Feb 05, 2019 07:27:07 am
      First half was a 2/10 performance. Second half a 6.5/10.

      One of the most expensive centre midfielders in the history of the game. Step the f**k up!
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      Reply #637: Feb 05, 2019 12:13:49 pm
      First half was a 2/10 performance. Second half a 6.5/10.

      One of the most expensive centre midfielders in the history of the game. Step the f**k up!

      Bloody hell I'm curious what scores you'd give to the rest of the team then!! I thought he was fairly average in the first half and much better second half, I hope its a sign of things to come and agree with the previous poster that he should play in the Ox position
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      Reply #638: Feb 05, 2019 12:35:26 pm
      He gave it away a bit and still isn't really flowing, but I liked the fact he was taking people on and trying to make things happen. I thought he took responsibility and didn't hide, despite not playing great. If he keeps doing that he will come good.
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      Reply #639: Feb 05, 2019 03:59:19 pm
      Bloody hell I'm curious what scores you'd give to the rest of the team then!! I thought he was fairly average in the first half and much better second half, I hope its a sign of things to come and agree with the previous poster that he should play in the Ox position

      He gave the ball away with every attempted forward momentum. He lost the ball constantly by being tackled and made no effort to win it back, in some cases walking back. One of those instances cost us the free kick for the goal where by the way he was also not switched on.

      Attrecious first half, to pass it as fine shows an utter lack of understanding of how you’re meant to play football or a complete lack in concentration to individual player performances. 2/10 and not a tenth more.
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      Reply #640: Feb 05, 2019 04:03:51 pm
      He gave the ball away with every attempted forward momentum. He lost the ball constantly by being tackled and made no effort to win it back, in some cases walking back. One of those instances cost us the free kick for the goal where by the way he was also not switched on.

      Attrecious first half, to pass it as fine shows an utter lack of understanding of how you’re meant to play football or a complete lack in concentration to individual player performances. 2/10 and not a tenth more.

      I agree he was poor first half, much  better second half, but out of curiosity what score did you give Bobby second half before he was hooked?
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      Reply #641: Feb 05, 2019 04:18:28 pm
      I agree he was poor first half, much  better second half, but out of curiosity what score did you give Bobby second half before he was hooked?

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      Reply #642: Feb 05, 2019 04:45:44 pm
      lets be honest he is nowhere near the player we all thought we were getting. Why ? if I knew I would tell Jürgen but he looks so lacking in confidence I don't think we are seeing anything like the player he really is.
      Playing Bayern should be perfect for him to make his mark its all there for him we just need him to believe in himself as much as we do.
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      Reply #643: Feb 05, 2019 06:21:48 pm
      lets be honest he is nowhere near the player we all thought we were getting. Why ? if I knew I would tell Jürgen but he looks so lacking in confidence I don't think we are seeing anything like the player he really is.
      Playing Bayern should be perfect for him to make his mark its all there for him we just need him to believe in himself as much as we do.

      He'll be fine, he's just taking a while to settle.
      He's only 23, and is just finding it difficult to adjust.
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      Reply #644: Feb 05, 2019 06:42:46 pm
      He'll be fine, he's just taking a while to settle.
      He's only 23, and is just finding it difficult to adjust.

      I think the biggest problem is that we all thought we were buying a polished player, one that would make a huge difference right away and be one of the best in the league.

      In reality he's the 7th best option in centre midfield for us with everyone fit and I know I for one am finding that hard to deal with.

      Maybe the pricetag is weighing on him, maybe the number 8 is too. Either way, it's been an absolute disaster and I'm not even seeing the signs that he will be fine, however one lucky thing is that I know he has the talent from watching German league over the last few years (albeit mostly highlights), hopefully he brings it out and won't be the next Aquilani who came in with similar hype and had an ongoing settling in period interrupted by injury.

      Come on Naby lad, sort it the f**k out, we need you.
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      Reply #645: Feb 05, 2019 06:51:40 pm
      I think the biggest problem is that we all thought we were buying a polished player, one that would make a huge difference right away and be one of the best in the league.

      Hit the nail on the head with his situation, especially where his style of play based on what he did Germany would fit our system like a glove but it hasn't gone off for him and being in the middle of title race really ramps the pressure up on his to produce right now. I felt last performance was what we seen all season with some sloppy ball work and poor passing then he would make some good driving runs and link up plays.
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      Reply #646: Feb 05, 2019 06:52:09 pm
      I think the biggest problem is that we all thought we were buying a polished player, one that would make a huge difference right away and be one of the best in the league.

      In reality he's the 7th best option in centre midfield for us with everyone fit and I know I for one am finding that hard to deal with.

      Maybe the pricetag is weighing on him, maybe the number 8 is too. Either way, it's been an absolute disaster and I'm not even seeing the signs that he will be fine, however one lucky thing is that I know he has the talent from watching German league over the last few years (albeit mostly highlights), hopefully he brings it out and won't be the next Aquilani who came in with similar hype and had an ongoing settling in period interrupted by injury.

      Come on Naby lad, sort it the f**k out, we need you.
       

      Polished at 22/23 mate?
      No disrespect, but that's perhaps a bit ambitious for a young player.
      In my opinion, he's still a bit raw, but if we have patience, we'll have a real superstar.

      I've seen a few bits and bobs from him that have made me sit up, particularly that wonderful turn on our left defensive side early in the season to bring the ball out.

      I'm as confident about this lad as I've ever been about a player.
      He'll be fine, I'm sure of it.
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      Reply #647: Feb 05, 2019 07:26:37 pm
      I wonder if with those red cards last year and Jürgen having a word with him he seems a bit hesitant to go into tackles with any sort of conviction.
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      Reply #648: Feb 05, 2019 07:35:04 pm
      I wonder if with those red cards last year and Jürgen having a word with him he seems a bit hesitant to go into tackles with any sort of conviction.

      I personally think it's more to do with the fitness and physicality of the league. Probably won't see the best of him until next season.
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      Reply #649: Feb 05, 2019 08:10:28 pm
      I think the biggest problem is that we all thought we were buying a polished player, one that would make a huge difference right away and be one of the best in the league.

      In reality he's the 7th best option in centre midfield for us with everyone fit and I know I for one am finding that hard to deal with.

      Maybe the pricetag is weighing on him, maybe the number 8 is too. Either way, it's been an absolute disaster and I'm not even seeing the signs that he will be fine, however one lucky thing is that I know he has the talent from watching German league over the last few years (albeit mostly highlights), hopefully he brings it out and won't be the next Aquilani who came in with similar hype and had an ongoing settling in period interrupted by injury.

      Come on Naby lad, sort it the f**k out, we need you.

      That's a bit harsh mate.

      New league, coming into a much stronger squad than his previous club, new tactics to adapt to, still young. He looks nervous but I can see small improvements each game he's definitely starting to adapt. I take a lot of hope from his second half performance last night and I hope Klopp starts him again at the weekend in a 3 man midfield to build his confidence rather than take the easy option and drop him.

      Like Ox last season I think Klopp will persist with starting Naby though and we'll soon start to see the player we paid all that money for.
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      Reply #650: Feb 05, 2019 09:17:36 pm
      That's a bit harsh mate.

      New league, coming into a much stronger squad than his previous club, new tactics to adapt to, still young. He looks nervous but I can see small improvements each game he's definitely starting to adapt. I take a lot of hope from his second half performance last night and I hope Klopp starts him again at the weekend in a 3 man midfield to build his confidence rather than take the easy option and drop him.

      Like Ox last season I think Klopp will persist with starting Naby though and we'll soon start to see the player we paid all that money for.

      Agree with this, I took a lot of encouragement from the second half performance yesterday, I would love to see him play with the same spirit against Bournemouth.
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      Reply #651: Feb 05, 2019 11:05:56 pm
       

      Polished at 22/23 mate?
      No disrespect, but that's perhaps a bit ambitious for a young player.
      In my opinion, he's still a bit raw, but if we have patience, we'll have a real superstar.

      I've seen a few bits and bobs from him that have made me sit up, particularly that wonderful turn on our left defensive side early in the season to bring the ball out.

      I'm as confident about this lad as I've ever been about a player.
      He'll be fine, I'm sure of it.

      That's a bit harsh mate.

      New league, coming into a much stronger squad than his previous club, new tactics to adapt to, still young. He looks nervous but I can see small improvements each game he's definitely starting to adapt. I take a lot of hope from his second half performance last night and I hope Klopp starts him again at the weekend in a 3 man midfield to build his confidence rather than take the easy option and drop him.

      Like Ox last season I think Klopp will persist with starting Naby though and we'll soon start to see the player we paid all that money for.

      Fair enough lads, I recognise that I'm being a little harsher on him than others, but that's transfer fee doing that. When you spend that much money on someone, you expect them to be better than he has been.

      I do think he can pull through this, however while at the start of the season I was 100% sure he would, I'm now somewhere in the 80% range that he'll come good and it's not going up just by one or two good dribbles in the second half against a second rate West Ham team we should be hammering (pardon the pun)
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      Reply #652: Feb 05, 2019 11:22:37 pm
      Terrible 1st half. He looked like he was jogging to get to get to Antonio.

      2nd half I thought he played well. Wish he had have finished off the beautiful run he did into the box. He just needs that 1st goal and I'm positive it will send him on his way to a bright LFC future.
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      Reply #653: Feb 06, 2019 04:18:09 am
      https://blog.redsbet.com/keita-can-be-liverpools-wildcard-even-if-hes-not-at-his-best/?utm_medium=fw&utm_source=anfieldhq

      Pretty much sugars Keita, but it has a point: The are micro-signs that Keita gets it together...micro signs though.
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      Reply #654: Feb 06, 2019 08:00:24 am
      What worried me was when he lost the ball in first half and then basically could not be assed chasing back . Not sure it's ability or attitude what's the problem 
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      Reply #655: Feb 06, 2019 08:08:26 am
      What worried me was when he lost the ball in first half and then basically could not be assed chasing back . Not sure it's ability or attitude what's the problem 

      I really think there is some kind of language barrier/shyness going on here, I have no doubt he has the ability and workrate but something is getting a bit lost in translation as regards instructions and team ethos. He just needs to get a bit more confident and feel more a part of the team, I hope and trust Jürgen and his team are working on this in the background.
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      Reply #656: Feb 06, 2019 06:01:01 pm
      Thought he was good in that second half, only player looking capable of breaking that parked bus.

      Bobby with some absolute howlers breaking up the attacks  :D

      https://twitter.com/thereddebate/status/1092840958952132612?s=21
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      Reply #657: Feb 07, 2019 12:07:22 am
      Anyone reckon he would suit the 10 role?.
                   
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      Reply #658: Feb 07, 2019 12:23:25 am
      Thought he was good in that second half, only player looking capable of breaking that parked bus.

      Bobby with some absolute howlers breaking up the attacks  :D

      https://twitter.com/thereddebate/status/1092840958952132612?s=21

      Yep, him and Fabinho were very positive in possession and I thought they played very well in the 2nd half. The problem was more between the lines where Firmino and Shaqiri/Lallana  could have done better imo.
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      Reply #659: Feb 07, 2019 12:29:35 am
      I do not think he is up to speed as of yet. There is definitely a player in there, but may take a little more coaxing until he reaches his true potential.

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