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      Naby Keita Player Thread

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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #675: Feb 09, 2019 10:02:22 pm
      Yeh - 3 good half’s in a row.

      Maybe first half vs West Ham will be a blessing in the long run. Seemed to feel himself hit the bottom and has rebounded big time.

      More power to you Naby kid. I still think you’ll boss this league eventually.
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      Reply #676: Feb 09, 2019 11:27:29 pm
      Yeh - 3 good half’s in a row.

      Maybe first half vs West Ham will be a blessing in the long run. Seemed to feel himself hit the bottom and has rebounded big time.

      More power to you Naby kid. I still think you’ll boss this league eventually.

      He will mate just slow settling in is all. The lad has world class potential and Klopp knows it. He has skills none of our other played possess apart from Ox which is to beat players from deep and run at pace to the opposition's box.
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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #677: Feb 10, 2019 01:48:50 am
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      Reply #678: Feb 10, 2019 08:24:02 am
      Would be huge plus if Naby kept/improved recent form for the rest of the run in. Looked like he might be a bit part player for the season, but starting to show some signs of confidence.
      Imagine he'd fancy a run against Bayern, knows them well enough I'd say.
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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #679: Feb 10, 2019 08:41:49 am
      Brilliant yesterday. Adapting well now.

      Yesterdays midfield with the option of AOC has a lot of potential for the future.
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      Reply #680: Feb 10, 2019 09:55:09 am
      Damn, he looked good. I agree with the poster that said he should start against Bayern, given his time in Germany and the type of game it is likely to be. Against United, maybe he is not quite ready for a game like that.
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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #681: Feb 10, 2019 01:08:47 pm
      So is Fab-Gini-Keita our best midfield?

      We'll need to see them together in a run of games but early signs this will be it going forward.
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      Reply #682: Feb 10, 2019 01:24:56 pm
      So is Fab-Gini-Keita our best midfield?

      We'll need to see them together in a run of games but early signs this will be it going forward.

      I think Fabinho is the key. You can replace Wijnaldum with Hendo/Milner, you can also replace Keita with Wijnaldum (and possibly Lallana?) and still get a very similar functioning midfield, but is there another midfielder we have that can distribute like Fab from deep, that can dominate aerially or read the game like he does and put in strong tackles all in one?
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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #683: Feb 10, 2019 01:44:55 pm
      I think Fabinho is the key. You can replace Wijnaldum with Hendo/Milner, you can also replace Keita with Wijnaldum (and possibly Lallana?) and still get a very similar functioning midfield, but is there another midfielder we have that can distribute like Fab from deep, that can dominate aerially or read the game like he does and put in strong tackles all in one?

      Don't underestimate Gini's role in Keita playing good yesterday, i think Keita could be swapped over for Ox depending on who's in better form. But Gini and Fabinho for me are the best duo to help get the best out of Keita and our midfield.
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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #684: Feb 10, 2019 01:58:56 pm
      I think Fabinho is the key. You can replace Wijnaldum with Hendo/Milner, you can also replace Keita with Wijnaldum (and possibly Lallana?) and still get a very similar functioning midfield, but is there another midfielder we have that can distribute like Fab from deep, that can dominate aerially or read the game like he does and put in strong tackles all in one?

      Not yet he's not.
      He's fine when he has someone playing beside him, but as the lone 6 (ish) he gets bypassed far too easily.
      The same happened yesterday; in his desire to get on the front foot early and be aggressive, he went too early and the opposition player just went past him.
      It's not a major problem, he'll learn, but for now he still needs a "minder".
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      Reply #685: Feb 10, 2019 02:51:23 pm
      Not yet he's not.
      He's fine when he has someone playing beside him, but as the lone 6 (ish) he gets bypassed far too easily.
      The same happened yesterday; in his desire to get on the front foot early and be aggressive, he went too early and the opposition player just went past him.
      It's not a major problem, he'll learn, but for now he still needs a "minder".

      I wonder if that is a Klopp instruction to have Fabinho more front footed as he wasn't over committing often for Monaco. I have also seen Hendo take that gamble many occasions when deployed as a 6 but only to get bypassed far too easily too. The difference is, I think Hendo reacts quicker, therefore isn't as reliant on Wijnaldum/Milner as Fabinho would be.

      I do agree, Fabinho is better off with either Wijnaldum, Milner or Hendo next to him and always will be. I also think Fabinho brings the best out of Hendo/Wijnaldum/Milner. It reminds me of an Alonso and Masch midfield where Hendo/Wijnaldum/Milner assumes the role of Masch and Fabinho assumes the role of Alonso.

      Where we have 1 "Alonso" in the squad, we have 3 "Masch's", and I feel losing that 1 Alonso changes our particular way of playing in midfield and we become less fluid and in control of the middle, hence the reason why I think Fabinho is the glue and key in midfield when he plays next to Hendo/Wijnaldum/Milner.
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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #686: Feb 10, 2019 03:07:01 pm
      I wonder if that is a Klopp instruction to have Fabinho more front footed as he wasn't over committing often for Monaco. I have also seen Hendo take that gamble many occasions when deployed as a 6 but only to get bypassed far too easily too. The difference is, I think Hendo reacts quicker, therefore isn't as reliant on Wijnaldum/Milner as Fabinho would be.

      I do agree, Fabinho is better off with either Wijnaldum, Milner or Hendo next to him and always will be. I also think Fabinho brings the best out of Hendo/Wijnaldum/Milner. It reminds me of an Alonso and Masch midfield where Hendo/Wijnaldum/Milner assumes the role of Masch and Fabinho assumes the role of Alonso.

      Where we have 1 "Alonso" in the squad, we have 3 "Masch's", and I feel losing that 1 Alonso changes our particular way of playing in midfield and we become less fluid and in control of the middle, hence the reason why I think Fabinho is the glue and key in midfield when he plays next to Hendo/Wijnaldum/Milner.

      It's just a matter of positioning and experience for me. He'll get there, I have no doubt.

      Henderson is different, because he triggers and leads the midfield press.
      Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't and teams can get in behind the midfield a bit, but because they are usually sat so deep, it's not often they can do it in numbers.

      What I saw yesterday, was 3 players rotating throughout the match.
      Sometimes we had Fabinho and Keita with Wijnaldum up, then Fabinho and Wijnaldum with Keita up etc etc
      The 3 were constantly rotating with 2 staying and 1 pushing up, depending on where the ball was.
      It had the effect of confusing the opposition a bit, because they were never quite sure who to pick up, so in the end they went completely zonal.
      This is why I think it's a mistake to say player X is "the 6", because they'll all rotate in and out of the 2 deep positions, and at times form a flat 3 (with Firmino dropping deep and sitting slightly in front).
      To me, Klopp's goal is clear; 6 players who can all drop in and out of any of the midfield positions, rotate between them, and know when to rotate.
      Within those 6 we'll have runners who can surge and break the lines.
      Ideally, it should be all of them, but we're not quite there yet.
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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #687: Feb 10, 2019 08:50:12 pm
      Finally the Naby we have been waiting for.

      I'm gonna call it now. His first LFC Goal will be against Bayern Munich and he will start scoring for fun after that.
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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #688: Feb 11, 2019 12:08:41 pm
      Klopp knows the importance of a fully firing Keita.

      https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1094873382494105601?s=21
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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #689: Feb 11, 2019 12:55:37 pm

      Quote from: Klopp on Naby
      “It was a big step. The 2nd half against West Ham was a big step but nobody really realised it because nobody was happy with the game. The position was clearer. Sometimes it takes longer. People lose patience – but we don’t. This was obviously one of the best games he’s played.”

      https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/naby-keita-taken-big-step-15808809.amp?__twitter_impression=true
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      Reply #690: Feb 11, 2019 02:44:24 pm
      That was the Keita we paid all that money for. A complete performance out of him in a crucially important game. We saw him pressure opponents, be disruptive and recovering the ball, carrying it across the midfield and putting through a beautiful pass to Bobby for our 3rd.
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      Reply #691: Feb 11, 2019 07:17:22 pm
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      Reply #692: Feb 11, 2019 09:28:29 pm

      Most telling stat from that article for me was his passing accuracy % being higher than any other player in the team. As, the three games prior he was being quite wasteful in possession but that's quite the turn around, obviously he needs to continue in that vain but looks like his improving most definetlety.

      Apart from Salah he is the player I am most excited to watch in the team and I just hope he continues improving.
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      Reply #693: Feb 12, 2019 07:33:51 am
      Perfect timing...keep on improving Naby!
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      Reply #694: Feb 12, 2019 02:26:52 pm

      I noticed during the game (and watching this again reminded me) that he pulled off a number of deft little touches and quick passes that ended up being turnovers because his teammates seemed surprised or unready for him to pull them off. I think as they all get used to playing with him, their improvement in reading his game will only make his performances look even better (if that makes sense).
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      Reply #695: Feb 12, 2019 09:37:33 pm
      Just watching Veratti, who can’t be much bigger or heavier than Naby, and as well as being extremely talented, he is a physical wee sh*te. Would like to see more of this from Naby.
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      Reply #696: Feb 12, 2019 09:46:45 pm
      The penny is dropping for Naby just like Fab and just at a time when every game is so important. He will be fresh and strong in the run in I can only see him having a major impact in the next few months
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      Reply #697: Feb 13, 2019 01:22:52 am
      Just watching Veratti, who can’t be much bigger or heavier than Naby, and as well as being extremely talented, he is a physical wee sh*te. Would like to see more of this from Naby.

      Naby is like Mo: basically zero physicality. He needs to improve there as well as in his overall performance. Too many praised him after our last game and indeed he does look better but still no endproduct (which you'd expect for 60 Mio. €).
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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #698: Feb 13, 2019 08:18:52 am
      Naby is like Mo: basically zero physicality. He needs to improve there as well as in his overall performance. Too many praised him after our last game and indeed he does look better but still no endproduct (which you'd expect for 60 Mio. €).

      For his size Mo is pretty strong, and what has money got to do with end product?

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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #699: Feb 13, 2019 10:37:12 am
      Naby is like Mo: basically zero physicality. He needs to improve there as well as in his overall performance. Too many praised him after our last game and indeed he does look better but still no endproduct (which you'd expect for 60 Mio. €).

      NO end product?? Did you miss his pass to Bobby which was then flicked on to Mo or how about the clever chip to Origi against West Ham. Plenty of end product from Naby and he'll only get better from here on in.

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