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      Naby Keita Player Thread

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      Reply #1125: Dec 04, 2020 07:05:22 pm
      Yeah that's the most frustrating thing with Naby he only became injury prone as soon as he joined us.

      The PL seems to be just too tough to him: harder tackling and more running does not suit his body apparently. I say: cut ties with him asap and use him in a swap-deal, something like: Keita + X $ for Mpabbe (just as an example). If we wait too long he'll become deadwood because nobody will look at an older injury-prone player.
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      Reply #1126: Dec 04, 2020 07:33:27 pm
      The PL seems to be just too tough to him: harder tackling and more running does not suit his body apparently. I say: cut ties with him asap and use him in a swap-deal, something like: Keita + X $ for Mpabbe (just as an example). If we wait too long he'll become deadwood because nobody will look at an older injury-prone player.

      Like Keita + $200 million for Mbappe? :D

      I say Naby is still young, still has huge potential and just needs a break with injuries.

      He'll come good for us.
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      Reply #1127: Dec 04, 2020 08:01:23 pm
      How the hell's he ever gonna get to his prime if he can't stay fit? You know that old saying...the problem with injury prone players is that they get injured a lot. Well he's certainly starting to spend way more time in the training room than Lallana ever did. It would be comical if we didn't really need him to be fit right now. And the sad part is, I don't remember that this was an issue at his old club.

      He is Harry Kewell 2.0. It is disappointing for Naby because he played well after restart of the season and with Gini potentially leaving it did offer an opportunity for him to cement a starting role in the middle but 1/4th through the season and we are seeing the same issues that followed him in 18/19 and pre covid 19/20.

      If he follows the trajectory he is on I wouldn't be too bother if we cut our losses and buy someone else but unless Naby forces the move Klopp will keep trying.
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      Reply #1128: Dec 04, 2020 08:10:25 pm
      He is Harry Kewell 2.0. It is disappointing for Naby because he played well after restart of the season and with Gini potentially leaving it did offer an opportunity for him to cement a starting role in the middle but 1/4th through the season and we are seeing the same issues that followed him in 18/19 and pre covid 19/20.

      If he follows the trajectory he is on I wouldn't be too bother if we cut our losses and buy someone else but unless Naby forces the move Klopp will keep trying.

      Naby is very hard to give up on because he is such a good, all-around player. He can do everything well, pressing, recovering the ball, passing, shooting and dribbling past traffic breaking the opposition's press. I think he is our 2nd most rounded midfield after Thiago, but all that skill does us no good from the treatment room.
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      Reply #1129: Dec 09, 2020 03:13:11 pm
      Naby is very hard to give up on because he is such a good, all-around player. He can do everything well, pressing, recovering the ball, passing, shooting and dribbling past traffic breaking the opposition's press. I think he is our 2nd most rounded midfield after Thiago, but all that skill does us no good from the treatment room.
      very true analysis bro. Keita's play on the pitch is quite similar to Thiagos but his injury record is the reason for him being an irregular member in the starting eleven
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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #1130: Dec 09, 2020 03:59:57 pm
      Keita has to be handled like Matip: very carefully. Therefore I wouldn't play him 90min. today, just one half.
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      Reply #1131: Dec 09, 2020 08:08:02 pm
      Keita has to be handled like Matip: very carefully. Therefore I wouldn't play him 90min. today, just one half.

      He didn’t even bother playing one half today.

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      Reply #1132: Dec 09, 2020 09:39:02 pm
      He didn’t even bother playing one half today.



      Bit harsh no?

      Just back from a hammy. Nearly scored a cracker, looked lively enough and got some minutes under his belt.
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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #1133: Dec 09, 2020 10:05:15 pm
      Minutes played, not injured, bonus
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      Reply #1134: Dec 09, 2020 10:15:30 pm
      Bit harsh no?

      Just back from a hammy. Nearly scored a cracker, looked lively enough and got some minutes under his belt.

      Erm maybe but still waiting to see that dynamic midfielder at RB, not one who more than likely is no longer a first choice if all midfielders are available.

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      Reply #1135: Dec 09, 2020 10:43:30 pm
      Erm maybe but still waiting to see that dynamic midfielder at RB, not one who more than likely is no longer a first choice if all midfielders are available.

      You must have been watching the wrong channel if you don't think Keita has shown us his dynamism since he's been here. It's just that it hasn't been often enough because of injuries then ramping up from them.
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      Reply #1136: Dec 09, 2020 11:11:18 pm
      You must have been watching the wrong channel if you don't think Keita has shown us his dynamism since he's been here. It's just that it hasn't been often enough because of injuries then ramping up from them.

      One game here and there doesn’t cut the mustard unfortunately!

      At the moment it looks like he can’t handle the pace and physicality of the league, but I hope he proves me wrong.


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      Reply #1137: Dec 10, 2020 01:22:35 am
      One game here and there doesn’t cut the mustard unfortunately!

      At the moment it looks like he can’t handle the pace and physicality of the league, but I hope he proves me wrong.
      The reason you feel like that is because every time he builds up so form he is right back on to the treatment table. Every time he has managed to stay fit for more than 5 games he started looking incredible and indispensable in that midfield but a game or two later he is injured again.

      The second statement, I disagree with. He looks very much at home when in form and not working his way back from yet another injury.

      I don't what's up with all those injuries and how we could curb them down but when he is fit and has worked back up to pace, he is very good.
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      Reply #1138: Dec 10, 2020 11:41:19 am
      One game here and there doesn’t cut the mustard unfortunately!

      At the moment it looks like he can’t handle the pace and physicality of the league, but I hope he proves me wrong.

      He proved u right, just like Matip proved he can't handle the league. The question is how to proceed with this fragile glass. Sell or keep (and treat them carefully)?
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      Reply #1139: Dec 13, 2020 02:24:14 pm
      He should play today if Klopp goes back to a three man midfield
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      Reply #1140: Dec 13, 2020 07:04:35 pm
      Not right now, but the sooner the better, him and Matip should be offloaded and our losses cut short. It's just not working out

      Far from me the idea that him or Matip are not good enough but Keita is supposed to be a starter yet his injury record doesn't even permit him to be a bench warmer at this rate.

      Matip is supposed to be competition inside a 4 CBs team but even before this season he couldn't be relied on. I'm actually surprised he made it this far this season. Usually he's asked to play in the odd game here and there or come on as a substitute and after the game we hear he is out for the next few weeks.

      There's no point in having players who just can't stay fit. I know it's not their mistake but we, as a club, also shouldn't pay for that. I know it's not an easy job to shift players around and buy new ones but its just not working out as far as I'm concerned.

      I know this year's special circumstances kinda put these issues at the forefront and might make one think about those issues in an irrational way but even before this season it was just too much. Keita is basically useful for a period of 2 or 3 weeks per season. Matip was felt a bit less because VVD always stays healthy and it meant that you had 3 CBs to fill one position but as soon as we got a serious situation to deal with Matip becomes a time bomb.

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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #1141: Dec 13, 2020 07:11:01 pm
      Matip is supposed to be competition inside a 4 CBs team but even before this season he couldn't be relied on.

      You can f**king do one with that sh*te! Obviously discounting his run in the team on the way to Madrid when he was as good as VVD. Well known he's got injury problems, but to start saying he can't be relied upon is a shithouse reaction imo.
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      Reply #1142: Dec 14, 2020 05:38:49 pm
      You can f**king do one with that sh*te! Obviously discounting his run in the team on the way to Madrid when he was as good as VVD. Well known he's got injury problems, but to start saying he can't be relied upon is a shithouse reaction imo.
      Oh don't get me wrong. A fit Gomez and Matip, I would put Matip ahead of Gomez as VVD's partner, but the guy is nearing the equivalent of 2 seasons missed in terms of the number of games he has not been available. This is what, his 4th year with us? Effectively missing about 70 games or so is nowhere near what I would call reliable.

      It's not about how he performs on the pitch, its about the fact that we can't get him on the pitch.

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      Reply #1143: Dec 14, 2020 06:26:57 pm
      Soooo Keita injured again?
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      Reply #1144: Dec 27, 2020 07:10:37 pm
      It's time to offload him. If you think Matip can't be relied on, then I dont know what you call this guy. Shame, but its the truth. 3 years to back it up
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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #1145: Dec 27, 2020 07:18:51 pm
      Sell the glass hammer
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      Reply #1146: Dec 27, 2020 07:47:11 pm
      Is there a naby keita wing at the axa training centre? Complete waste of time and wages. 3 years of being injured, a handful of decent games and the rest flattering to deceive.

      Nothing personal but time to get rid ... while there is still some value left in him. I miss the old pay as you play contracts. Total liability.
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      Reply #1147: Dec 27, 2020 08:47:24 pm
      No one will buy him so it'll just have to be one we have to suck up.
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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #1148: Dec 27, 2020 09:48:21 pm
      Could have done with him today, what's he injured this week?
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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #1149: Dec 27, 2020 09:52:49 pm
      Could have done with him today, what's he injured this week?

      Broke his thumb unwrapping his pressies

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