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      Naby Keita Player Thread

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      Re: Naby Keita Player Thread
      Reply #750: Mar 12, 2019 01:38:49 pm
      People were starting to say the same about the slow and one paced Fabinho...he soon shut his doubters up. If there has been one thing proven by Robbo, Ox and Fab, it's to never write off a Klopp signing.

      hmm, I think people (myself included) said he was a bit slow off the mark, but quick enough when he got going, and nothing I have seen from him changes my mind.

      Also said he has a tendency to dive in, and step up too soon so he gets bypassed too easily.
      Both things we've seen happen lots of times.

      It doesn't make anyone a "doubter", because every single person that said these things also said it was just a matter of learning better positioning, and having a bit more discipline.
      His brain fart passes are more cause for concern, but he'll stop those soon enough.

      As for Keita, he's not fully settled or integrated yet.
      It happens.
      No big deal.
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      Reply #751: Mar 12, 2019 04:53:12 pm
      No he didn’t, he didn’t even start a league game for us until the end of October and took until mid October for him to make his first appearance in the league. Then it wasn’t up until mid December time that people actually started to stop writing him off and saying how slow he is.

      Oh and Keita has also been heavily involved in a number of goals so far.

      There were roughly 6 premier league games from when Fab started in October to when we started to see how talented he was in December and he's been one of the first names on the team sheet since then. Interestingly, Keita has had 12 PL starts and Fabinho has had 16 - and both have the same number of total appearances in the Premier League. Ketia has only had 1 assist and Fabhino has had 2 assists and a goal. We can't really make a comparison between the two players as Fab is clearly a world class talent and Keita has bags of potential and lots to prove. Still needs more time though but these little injuries don't help.
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      Reply #752: Mar 12, 2019 08:48:56 pm

      Hard to tell if it's true or just to sugarcoat things. I still say: for 60 Mio. € and what he has delivered so far Keita is a bust. That's on LFC's scouting. I hope they learn a lesson: Be very careful with players from foreign leagues, they might look better than they are because the PL is superior to basically all leagues in the world.

      I'd like to trade Keita for Fekir. Even with his leg issue Fekir is CL-proven and most probably would have done better than what Keita did.
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      Reply #753: Mar 12, 2019 08:56:12 pm
      Hard to tell if it's true or just to sugarcoat things. I still say: for 60 Mio. € and what he has delivered so far Keita is a bust. That's on LFC's scouting. I hope they learn a lesson: Be very careful with players from foreign leagues, they might look better than they are because the PL is superior to basically all leagues in the world.

      I'd like to trade Keita for Fekir. Even with his leg issue Fekir is CL-proven and most probably would have done better than what Keita did.

      We should trade you in unfortunately a single cell creature is not of much value!
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      Reply #754: Mar 12, 2019 09:50:12 pm
      That's on LFC's scouting. I hope they learn a lesson: Be very careful with players from foreign leagues, they might look better than they are because the PL is superior to basically all leagues in the world.

      You aren't half full of rubbish lad. Yeah our scouting department are really needing to learn a lesson after bringing in Salah, Fabinho, Alisson all from leagues abroad. Don't know if you've noticed but the best players in the league are all from foreign leagues!!
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      Reply #755: Mar 13, 2019 07:27:53 am
      All I see from that guy when he posts about Keita is “60 Mio. €”. Give it a rest. It’s not as if it’s the players fault that we paid that money for him so stop using it as a stick to beat him with.
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      Reply #756: Mar 13, 2019 08:46:36 am
      Hard to tell if it's true or just to sugarcoat things. I still say: for 60 Mio. € and what he has delivered so far Keita is a bust. That's on LFC's scouting. I hope they learn a lesson: Be very careful with players from foreign leagues, they might look better than they are because the PL is superior to basically all leagues in the world.

      I'd like to trade Keita for Fekir. Even with his leg issue Fekir is CL-proven and most probably would have done better than what Keita did.


      Yeah but we should be very careful with Fekir because he's from a foreign league.
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      Reply #757: Mar 13, 2019 09:23:04 am

      Yeah but we should be very careful with Fekir because he's from a foreign league.

      Haha just realised that! He’s also from a league that is weaker than the Bundesliga.
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      Reply #758: Mar 13, 2019 10:03:01 am
      I'm not being a wum or anything, but my eyes dont decieve me. He has been 80% sh*te for us since being bought.

      What it reminds me of is Aqualani when he was here. EVERYONE wanted him to succeed, but he just never could.

      Keita for me is not there yet, but I'm not banking on him making any discernable difference this year. I'll make my judgement by Sept/Oct next season after another pre season.
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      Reply #759: Mar 13, 2019 01:05:26 pm
      I am very frustrated with Naby because I had such high hopes. He was supposed to be an upgrade to f*cking Coutinho and ended up behind blue collar players like Hendo or Milner. The PS4-style whore in me wants to move on, just like we moved on from Karius pretty quickly. But then Jürgen did choose him and Jürgen is the next best thing to Jesus, so I guess I have to postpone my brainf*ck (except the one for Fekir, I still think we should have taken the risk!!!!!).
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      Reply #760: Mar 18, 2019 05:46:06 pm
      Very disappointing that Naby is playing no part in the run in.
      And that's disappointment with him, that he's not playing well enough to force his way into Jurgens thoughts/team, as opposed to disappointed in Jürgen for not playing him. The manager am sure would love to play him and have him as an option.
      OK, he's on the bench, but he's making no impression right now.
      Dunno what the heck is going on with him, know he's had some niggles, but it's not like that is a midfield that would be hard for him to get into if playing even reasonably well.
      And him in Leipzig form would be such a boost for us.
      Just have to do it without him this season by the look of it...
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      Reply #761: Mar 18, 2019 06:05:54 pm
      Our midfield all have 2 ingredients and that is they are solid off the ball and can play the basics when they have it.

      Keita will have to match those basics before Klopp starts to trust him.
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      Reply #762: Mar 18, 2019 06:14:17 pm
      Very disappointing that Naby is playing no part in the run in.
      And that's disappointment with him, that he's not playing well enough to force his way into Jurgens thoughts/team, as opposed to disappointed in Jürgen for not playing him. The manager am sure would love to play him and have him as an option.
      OK, he's on the bench, but he's making no impression right now.
      Dunno what the heck is going on with him, know he's had some niggles, but it's not like that is a midfield that would be hard for him to get into if playing even reasonably well.
      And him in Leipzig form would be such a boost for us.
      Just have to do it without him this season by the look of it...

      Top of the league, CL final last year, last 8 this year with "that" midfield.

      It's such a shame that instead of praising the job they do, people prefer to malign our players.
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      Reply #763: Mar 18, 2019 06:27:15 pm
      To be fair the season is nearly over and he’s been non existent.

      Great squad depth though as we’ve been incredible without him.

      Hopefully he comes good next season or even better - pulls his German form for the run in
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      Reply #764: Mar 18, 2019 09:21:08 pm
      Top of the league, CL final last year, last 8 this year with "that" midfield.

      It's such a shame that instead of praising the job they do, people prefer to malign our players.

      Wha? So he wouldn't get into the midfield if not playing to form?
      Think a lot of people would agree that the defence is brilliant, front three also when on form, but that we have room to improve in middle.
      Obviously we're doing great and think the midfield lads are doing well too, but we're competing with Citeh, so you have to look to improve, cause they're already strong and won't stand still.
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      Reply #765: Mar 18, 2019 09:23:17 pm
      Very disappointing that Naby is playing no part in the run in.

      He's injured.
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      Reply #766: Mar 18, 2019 09:26:43 pm

      Right, he missed the Fulham game.
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      Reply #767: Mar 18, 2019 09:38:55 pm
      Right, he missed the Fulham game.

      Still injured, for all we know that might be the reason he played so little part in the few games before that. Which wouldn't surprise me if that was the case because he started the 5 or 6 games before that and was really starting to play well too.
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      Reply #768: Mar 19, 2019 01:44:24 pm
      Still injured, for all we know that might be the reason he played so little part in the few games before that. Which wouldn't surprise me if that was the case because he started the 5 or 6 games before that and was really starting to play well too.

      Maybe he's been carrying something, but before Fulham he'd been on the bench for previous PL games so have to assume he was fit enough to play - while before that thought he'd done well enough in some PL matches.  But now looks like is out again :(

      Ah it's just a pity, earlier in the season we were willing him along, hoping his form and confidence would grow - and I thought he was starting to show signs in games back before the first Munich tie - and was thinking he was going to be a real asset for us in the last 3rd of the season, but that's starting to look like it's not gonna happen.

      You never know though I guess.   But after paying 50 odd mill for him, we haven't seen the player we expected, that box to box hard running, tough tackling, goal threat type of player.  Yet.  And there's always next season...

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