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      Pre Match - Man City vs. Liverpool - 9th Sept. 12:30 GMT (Let the Games Resume)

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      Pre Match - Man City vs. Liverpool - 9th Sept. 12:30 GMT (Let the Games Resume)
      Sep 05, 2017 02:58:55 pm
      SO glad to have a football match to talk about again. And a big'un as well.

      Could be a cracker. I see Bobby is starting tonight in Brazil and with this an early kickoff Saturday, I wonder if Sturridge might get the nod to start. Do Mane and Salah have games tonight as well?
      « Last Edit: Sep 05, 2017 08:59:42 pm by JD »
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      Re: Pre Match - Man City vs. Liverpool - 9th Sept. 12:30 GMT (Let the Games Resume)
      Reply #1: Sep 05, 2017 03:05:48 pm
      SO glad to have a football match to talk about again. And a big'un as well.

      Could be a cracker. I see Bobby is starting tonight in Brazil and with this an early kickoff Saturday, I wonder if Sturridge might get the nod to start. Do Mane and Salah have games tonight as well?


      Nice flight back on private jet should ensure Firminio is plenty refreshed for the early kick off on Saturday, Coutinho can come back on the cheapest nastiest budget airline we can find.
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      Reply #2: Sep 05, 2017 03:42:14 pm
      Nice flight back on private jet should ensure Firminio is plenty refreshed for the early kick off on Saturday, Coutinho can come back on the cheapest nastiest budget airline we can find.

      ;D. Phil will be on the plane as well. Something like this:

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      Reply #3: Sep 05, 2017 03:49:29 pm
      Id like.

      Mignolet

      TAA Gomez Matip Robertson

             Can Hendo Chambrrlain

      Mane           Bobby             Salah.

      Subs: karius Lovern Moreno Gruij Gini Danny Woodburn
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      Re: Pre Match - Man City vs. Liverpool - 9th Sept. 12:30 GMT (Let the Games Resume)
      Reply #4: Sep 05, 2017 06:25:46 pm
      No doubt the boss will get his tactics right again. Got a good feeling about this one, think there'll be a few goals in it, so going 2:3 to the red men !
      Still seems a long way off, can't bloody wait for it.
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      Reply #5: Sep 05, 2017 06:45:20 pm



      Or....Buddy Holly Airways....accompanied with Lynard Skynard singing..."Im leaving on a jet plane"    ;D


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      Reply #6: Sep 05, 2017 07:10:27 pm
      I'm thinking it's going to be to early for Alex's debut, after yrs of stagnation under Wenger it's a huge change in style and certainly too much to play him against Citeh, on the bench at a stretch,

      Migs coming back should instill a tad of confidence to Matip & Lovren who I think will be our CB pairing although I am tempted to play Gomez next to Matip, it's likely tho that Gomez & Moreno will be the wing backs with the usual suspects in midfield, Henderson, Can & Gini supporting the three amigo's up front,

      In short same side different victims (apart from Karius)

      We usually do well against Abu Dhabi Utd and I think we will do again, unless they set up deliberately to prevent us charging forward I can't see them being able to cope with our aggression,

                                  Migs
           Gomez  Matip   Lovren   Moreno
                             Henderson
                       Gini                 Emre
              Salah        Firmino       Mane

      Citeh are a better side from last season but we are too, they won't be sitting back playing at home which should create space for us to utilise to the max,

      1-3 Mighty Reds


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      « Last Edit: Sep 06, 2017 02:23:31 pm by racerx34 »
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      Re: Pre Match - Man City vs. Liverpool - 9th Sept. 12:30 GMT (Let the Games Resume)
      Reply #7: Sep 05, 2017 07:17:32 pm
      Hope we give em a spanking think it will be close but i think a win for us by one goal
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      Reply #8: Sep 05, 2017 08:32:51 pm
      Obviously would like to see a win.

      Havent lost in 17 matches ...... lets keep it going.

      Is baby Sterling playing ?  Lets hope so . He has certainly gone down in Pep's pecking order in recent weeks.
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      Reply #9: Sep 05, 2017 08:44:39 pm
      Havent lost in 17 matches ...... lets keep it going.

      Apart from the Palace game.  But yes - 1 defeat in 17 competitive games is a pretty solid run of form.

      Is baby Sterling playing ?  Lets hope so .

      Assume he is suspended.
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      Reply #10: Sep 05, 2017 08:45:19 pm
      Obviously would like to see a win.

      Havent lost in 17 matches ...... lets keep it going.

      Is baby Sterling playing ?  Lets hope so . He has certainly gone down in Pep's pecking order in recent weeks.
      He has the worst first touch I have seen in a professional footballer.
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      Reply #11: Sep 05, 2017 08:52:28 pm
      Sterling is suspended
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      Reply #13: Sep 05, 2017 08:56:26 pm
      Suspended?
      B***ard . Thats a pity.  Love seeing him kicked up in the air.   ;D

      See if we can keep that win ratio against the top 5 around us again, for this season.
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      Re: Pre Match - Man City vs. Liverpool - 9th Sept. 12:30 GMT (Let the Games Resume)
      Reply #14: Sep 06, 2017 10:00:32 am
      I doubt it will be below, but  would chose this.

              Firmino
      Mane            Salah

            Woodburn
      Hendo           Gini

      TAA Lovren Matip Robbo

              Karius

      Subs: Mignolet, Grujic, Sturridge, Klavan, Gomez, Moreno and Milner.

      Can and Coutinho dropped for now.
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      Re: Pre Match - Man City vs. Liverpool - 9th Sept. 12:30 GMT (Let the Games Resume)
      Reply #15: Sep 06, 2017 10:14:03 am
      I fancy us to win this or at least get a draw.
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      Reply #16: Sep 06, 2017 10:16:09 am
      I'd say now is a good time to play City. With lots of players in hopefully they will make a few mistakes we can capitalise on
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      Reply #17: Sep 06, 2017 10:44:30 am
      I hope to see Can start the game to provide cover for the defence and break out for counter attacks. Love his final touches around the box. More shooting practice for Salah. He must learn to chip the ball into goal instead of shooting straight at the keeper.  matip must improve, he has been pretty sluggish in the last few games. Anyone noticed that. Does Alex starts the game?
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      Reply #18: Sep 06, 2017 01:16:36 pm
      I think this game will suit us just fine. Citeh are under pressure to win the league so they cannot afford to sit back and try to hit us on the break, so they will have to take the game to us which should leave them vulnerable.

      1-3 good away win.  (was going to go 1-2)

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      Reply #19: Sep 06, 2017 02:06:34 pm
      Before the Arsenal game I said it would be 7-0 to Liverpool.
      If it weren't for an excellent goalkeeping display it would have been.
      I guess I will go with the same. 7-0 I think this will be.
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      Reply #20: Sep 06, 2017 03:00:42 pm
      A few potential story lines for this one:

      - Does Coutinho make the bench or starting 11, or will Klopp make him work his way back into the team?
      - Does Can's contract standoff impact Klopp's selection?
      - Does Ox get selected to the starting 11 after only a couple of training sessions?

      Most likely answers:  No, no, and no.  Klopp will probably go with the same team that destroyed Arsenal (except Karius), although he could make 1 or 2 changes.  Possibly TAA or Milner on for Gomez.  Possibly Robertson on for Moreno.  Other than that, I expect all of the others to keep their places. 

      Migs
              TAA - Matip - Lovren - Moreno
      Hendo
      Gini  --  Can
      Salah - Bobby - Mane

      Subs:  Karius, Gomez, Klavan, Milner, Ox, Sturridge, Coutinho
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      Reply #21: Sep 06, 2017 03:45:17 pm
      Id like.

      Mignolet

      TAA Gomez Matip Robertson

             Can Hendo Chambrrlain

      Mane           Bobby             Salah.

      Subs: karius Lovern Moreno Gruij Gini Danny Woodburn
      I would have Mignolet stand in front of the goal, not that it would make much difference.
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      Reply #22: Sep 06, 2017 04:19:45 pm
      A few potential story lines for this one:

      - Does Coutinho make the bench or starting 11, or will Klopp make him work his way back into the team?
      - Does Can's contract standoff impact Klopp's selection?
      - Does Ox get selected to the starting 11 after only a couple of training sessions?

      Most likely answers:  No, no, and no.  Klopp will probably go with the same team that destroyed Arsenal (except Karius), although he could make 1 or 2 changes.  Possibly TAA or Milner on for Gomez.  Possibly Robertson on for Moreno.  Other than that, I expect all of the others to keep their places. 

      Migs
              TAA - Matip - Lovren - Moreno
      Hendo
      Gini  --  Can
      Salah - Bobby - Mane

      Subs:  Karius, Gomez, Klavan, Milner, Ox, Sturridge, Coutinho

      I think this is the lineup, down to the subs. The only question I might have is if Robertson starts ahead of Moreno, but I doubt it.
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      Reply #23: Sep 06, 2017 08:11:11 pm
      Just don't lose and I am happy. I think City will play careful to neutralize our fast counter attack. That will mean the game won't be fun to watch since teams will neutralize each other in midfield, the rest will be day's luck. My bet: 1-1 and if offered to me right now I'd take it and I think 99% of you all would do the same, wouldn't u?
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      Reply #24: Sep 06, 2017 08:26:26 pm
      We are a strong attacking unit [from back to front] and solid in midfield; City will not have it easy agin us. Can we outscore them?

      With our more 'straight for the jugular' style and them not being afraid to attack; I'm going to say yes.

      On a personal note, I'd like to see Andy and Ben get starts but reckon that we will definitely see Andy start. Another Reds win. 😎
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      Reply #25: Sep 06, 2017 08:31:19 pm
      He's a snake but he should go straight back in.

      Coutinho looked F***ing sharp for Brazil
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      Reply #26: Sep 06, 2017 09:19:32 pm
      SO glad to have a football match to talk about again. And a big'un as well.

      Could be a cracker. I see Bobby is starting tonight in Brazil and with this an early kickoff Saturday, I wonder if Sturridge might get the nod to start. Do Mane and Salah have games tonight as well?


      Yeah after playing a couple of times a week and playing well too these breaks are horrible. Haven't watched a single international match, they really don't interest me at all. I know some will say you can see how people like AOC are doing etc but I don't find international form, especially England, translates to club football. Gerrard used to look pretty ordinary in a lot of England games and then bossed it for us the games either side so those that are jumping on Alex's back because of it might want to let the lad run out for us first before we cast any judgements.

      With regards City, this is obviously one of our tougher games and also the circumstances; on the back of internationals; privately flying Coutinho back, meaning very little training to solve the obvious issues his transfer saga has caused. Having said that I still believe we'll come away with at least a draw, anything better and of course we'll be tanking along.

      I'd start Coutinho, as good as our 3 midfield looked against Arsenal we mustn't lose sight of the fact that Arsenal were also extremely poor, which I don't expect City to be. I'm not sure Jürgen will have such an easy time with that decision though, while of course he'll look to reintegrate him into the first team quickly, immediately could send the wrong message to the other lads. This is one of those damned if you do and damned if you don't scenarios in my opinion because there are so many things which could go wrong with it, even Coutinho scoring the winner might not reflect so well on the boss, that he simply has to do what he deems right above all else. FWIW I think he'll start him, City are a title favourite for a reason and if we can get 3 points there then it'll obviously boost our chances and dent there's tremendously, but at the same time it'll send a real message to the rest of the league. 

                          Mig
        Gomez  Matip  Lovren Moreno
                   Henderson
                  Can Coutinho
              Salah  Firmino Mane

      Away from home I think it should be Gini that misses out from those two, harsh on the lad judged on only the last game, but judged on his away performances this season, and last, then it's more than justified.

      3-1 to the Redmen.
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      Re: Pre Match - Man City vs. Liverpool - 9th Sept. 12:30 GMT (Let the Games Resume)
      Reply #27: Sep 07, 2017 02:07:31 pm
      Yep I'd start Coutinho too. He's been a little sh!t but he remains our best player, and we can't expect Mane to carry the flag every single match.
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      Re: Pre Match - Man City vs. Liverpool - 9th Sept. 12:30 GMT (Let the Games Resume)
      Reply #28: Sep 07, 2017 05:19:06 pm
      Love the confidence but i would take a scrappy 0-1 90min deflection going off Lovren's arse now.

      Will be a tough game no doubt about it as they are a quality side going forward and the less said about our defence the better. Having said that we showed signs of defensive stability against Arse, ok I know they were pish.

      City themselves are just as vulnerable defensively as we are and attack seems to be our best form of defence.

      Would be unfair on any of those who started against Arse to be dropped, however there is a case for Coutinho to come back in as Gini is usually useless away from home but think Jürgen will have him on the bench and let him earn his way back as a starter.
      Would be a toss up between AOC and Milner who gets the bench position, there again Milner can cover a variety of positions.

      Robertson should also also provide more defensive cover than Moreno.

      Hopefully TAA is back to fitness.

      Hopefully Firmino is over the jet lag otherwise Sturridge will have to lead the line, I prefer to see Daniel coming on against tired legs in the second half.

      Migs
      TAA
      Matip
      Lovren
      Robertson

      Hendo
      Can
      Gini

      Salah
      Mane
      Firmino
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      Reply #30: Sep 07, 2017 06:57:50 pm
      Full backs are key and I think we'll start with Gomez-Robertson on Sat and TAA-Moreno on Wednesday! If Kompany is unfit, thats music for our front 3 to exploit Stones-Otamendi. They'll probably play a 4-1-4-1 with Fernandinho sometimes acting as the 3rd CB.

      Dont think Cou will make it to the 18..

      Mane-Bobby-Salah
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      Robbo-Lovren-Matip-Gomez
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      Reply #31: Sep 07, 2017 08:07:12 pm
      If everyone's fit, go with the same team that beat Arsenal.
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      Reply #32: Sep 07, 2017 08:14:17 pm
      Just beat them
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      Reply #33: Sep 07, 2017 08:33:22 pm
      Can't wait for this...
      Whether Coutinho/Chamberlain/Sturridge/Woodburn start or sit on the bench, who knows but it's a nice dilemma to have for change.

      We won't get as much space out wide as we did against Arsenal but Mane, Firmino and Salah should once again shine.
      Frightening pace those three have and all I can say to Man shitties defence is "Look out"

      Good time to play this lot, reckon we'll turn em over no problem.

      3-1 :scarf:
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      Reply #34: Sep 07, 2017 09:19:13 pm
      Yeah after playing a couple of times a week and playing well too these breaks are horrible. Haven't watched a single international match, they really don't interest me at all. I know some will say you can see how people like AOC are doing etc but I don't find international form, especially England, translates to club football. Gerrard used to look pretty ordinary in a lot of England games and then bossed it for us the games either side so those that are jumping on Alex's back because of it might want to let the lad run out for us first before we cast any judgements.

      With regards City, this is obviously one of our tougher games and also the circumstances; on the back of internationals; privately flying Coutinho back, meaning very little training to solve the obvious issues his transfer saga has caused. Having said that I still believe we'll come away with at least a draw, anything better and of course we'll be tanking along.

      I'd start Coutinho, as good as our 3 midfield looked against Arsenal we mustn't lose sight of the fact that Arsenal were also extremely poor, which I don't expect City to be. I'm not sure Jürgen will have such an easy time with that decision though, while of course he'll look to reintegrate him into the first team quickly, immediately could send the wrong message to the other lads. This is one of those damned if you do and damned if you don't scenarios in my opinion because there are so many things which could go wrong with it, even Coutinho scoring the winner might not reflect so well on the boss, that he simply has to do what he deems right above all else. FWIW I think he'll start him, City are a title favourite for a reason and if we can get 3 points there then it'll obviously boost our chances and dent there's tremendously, but at the same time it'll send a real message to the rest of the league. 

                          Mig
        Gomez  Matip  Lovren Moreno
                   Henderson
                  Can Coutinho
              Salah  Firmino Mane

      Away from home I think it should be Gini that misses out from those two, harsh on the lad judged on only the last game, but judged on his away performances this season, and last, then it's more than justified.

      3-1 to the Redmen.




      Dunno Luke, putting Coutinho back in straight away just wouldn't feel right if I'm honest, I know where coming from in that we're much better with him than without but what signal does that send to others,

      That Klopp is a big German Shepherd and isn't as strict as ppl think ?

      No, sorry Coutinho has to serve some kind of punishment otherwise Klopp could become a doormat!
      That's my take on it FWIW, reality Is tho we want to win and without a doubt we're better with Coutinho playing,
      I honestly can't see Jürgen going soft on Phill, he'll be drip fed back in imo a bit at a time   so he might make the bench.

      YNWA

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      Reply #35: Sep 07, 2017 10:10:23 pm
      Reckon Jürgen will go with..
                         
                             Migs
              TAA  Matip   Lovren  Robertson
                      Gini Hendo Emre
                   Salah  Firmino  Mane

      Karius looked like a lump of jelly last time out.
      Surely Moreno isn't actually really eeking his way back in.
      Close call between TAA and Gomez, but TAA is the more positive option.
      Then keep things same ol same ol in the middle/up top.
      Cou on the bench to come on if needed. And he might be needed.
      Not sure if Ox is fit, but can't see him coming into the middle unless we hit injuries/for important matches,
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      Re: Pre Match - Man City vs. Liverpool - 9th Sept. 12:30 GMT (Let the Games Resume)
      Reply #36: Sep 07, 2017 10:11:46 pm



      Dunno Luke, putting Coutinho back in straight away just wouldn't feel right if I'm honest, I know where coming from in that we're much better with him than without but what signal does that send to others,

      That Klopp is a big German Shepherd and isn't as strict as ppl think ?

      No, sorry Coutinho has to serve some kind of punishment otherwise Klopp could become a doormat!
      That's my take on it FWIW, reality Is tho we want to win and without a doubt we're better with Coutinho playing,
      I honestly can't see Jürgen going soft on Phill, he'll be drip fed back in imo a bit at a time   so he might make the bench.

      YNWA



      I get where you're coming from mate and can see it from both sides. This is why I was saying I think it's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

      Those who think he should be left out, it would be interesting to see if they'd happily pay the price of 3 points to City to make that choice, that could be the case. I know for sure Jürgen wont become a doormat but I also see this massively different from the Sakho incidents so getting an angry Coutinho who is ready to prove a point, assuming Jürgen can work the motivation that way, could easily prove to be the difference maker.

      Tough call, not sure even after the game if we'll know if the right one was made regardless of result.
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      Reply #37: Sep 07, 2017 10:25:03 pm



      Dunno Luke, putting Coutinho back in straight away just wouldn't feel right if I'm honest, I know where coming from in that we're much better with him than without but what signal does that send to others,

      That Klopp is a big German Shepherd and isn't as strict as ppl think ?

      No, sorry Coutinho has to serve some kind of punishment otherwise Klopp could become a doormat!
      That's my take on it FWIW, reality Is tho we want to win and without a doubt we're better with Coutinho playing,
      I honestly can't see Jürgen going soft on Phill, he'll be drip fed back in imo a bit at a time   so he might make the bench.

      YNWA



      Squad before the individual; in the past years managers might not have had a choice...The gaffer is building a team that all contribute not making one invaluable above the group.
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      Reply #38: Sep 07, 2017 10:52:24 pm
      Wouldn't start the rat. We can beat them without him. Should still have power to watch this one on TV. Hopefully a victory to help get us through Irma.
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      Reply #39: Sep 07, 2017 11:06:09 pm
      Wouldn't play Coutinho.  Wouldn't stick him in the squad either.  Lads going to be running up that touchline winding the Man City fans into a frenzy and we don't want their players to get the sense they are playing in a stadium with a home atmosphere.

      He can get back involved in the squad maybe against Sevilla at Anfield.

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      Should still have power to watch this one on TV.

      I like your priorities!
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      Reply #40: Sep 07, 2017 11:26:39 pm
      Wouldn't start the rat. We can beat them without him. Should still have power to watch this one on TV. Hopefully a victory to help get us through Irma.

      Hope Irma isn't to bad for you, stay safe.
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      Reply #41: Sep 08, 2017 01:28:34 am
      Quote from JD
      I like your priorities!

      Football....much more important than life and death. ;)
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      Reply #42: Sep 08, 2017 09:53:13 am
      Love the confidence but i would take a scrappy 0-1 90min deflection going off Lovren's arse now.

      Will be a tough game no doubt about it as they are a quality side going forward and the less said about our defence the better. Having said that we showed signs of defensive stability against Arse, ok I know they were pish.

      City themselves are just as vulnerable defensively as we are and attack seems to be our best form of defence.

      Would be unfair on any of those who started against Arse to be dropped, however there is a case for Coutinho to come back in as Gini is usually useless away from home but think Jürgen will have him on the bench and let him earn his way back as a starter.
      Would be a toss up between AOC and Milner who gets the bench position, there again Milner can cover a variety of positions.

      Robertson should also also provide more defensive cover than Moreno.

      Hopefully TAA is back to fitness.

      Hopefully Firmino is over the jet lag otherwise Sturridge will have to lead the line, I prefer to see Daniel coming on against tired legs in the second half.

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      TAA
      Matip
      Lovren
      Robertson

      Hendo
      Can
      Gini

      Salah
      Mane
      Firmino


      Agree everything except Lovren being in the team in the first place. Personally, I think Klavan doesn't panic and IMHO better than Lovren.
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      Reply #43: Sep 08, 2017 09:55:58 am
      This won't be easy. I think it might end up a 2-2 draw with both our defences cr@p but their's is slightly better since they upgraded them over the summer. Also, their midfield is miles better than ours.
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      Reply #44: Sep 08, 2017 10:15:34 am
      I think it might end up a 2-2 draw

      My prediction league head has gone for that (I can tell people - I'm in 99th position so no real danger to anyone!)

      Can't see either side keeping a clean sheet - too much attacking prowess on display and fairly average defences/keepers as well.

      In fact if both teams play as well up front as they can it could be double that scoreline.
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      Reply #45: Sep 08, 2017 10:18:51 am
      Big plus apparently Kompany is out with a calf injury.
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      Reply #46: Sep 08, 2017 10:30:41 am
      For me, Coutinho won't start and will make the bench, only coming on if we're behind in the last 20-25 mins if we're losing.  Think the line up will be: -         

                       Mignolet
       Gomez  Matip   Lovren  Robertson
                      Gini Henderson Emre
                   Salah  Firmino  Mane

      Think there'll be less goals than most think a la last season. 2-1 win be nice but suspect it'll finish 1 all which'll be a decent result.
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      Reply #47: Sep 08, 2017 11:26:16 am
      I get where you're coming from mate and can see it from both sides. This is why I was saying I think it's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

      Those who think he should be left out, it would be interesting to see if they'd happily pay the price of 3 points to City to make that choice, that could be the case. I know for sure Jürgen wont become a doormat but I also see this massively different from the Sakho incidents so getting an angry Coutinho who is ready to prove a point, assuming Jürgen can work the motivation that way, could easily prove to be the difference maker.

      Tough call, not sure even after the game if we'll know if the right one was made regardless of result.

      Phill going straight back in could be construed as favouritism on Klopp's behalf, also disrespectful to the dressing room who have worked hard to earn a first X1 berth,

      After his antics I doubt Jürgen will slot him in , he's certainly not in the Mama bracket but he has pissed off the boss so won't be forgiven that easily,
      It would also be harsh on whoever would miss out after playing so well recently,

      Coutinho will have to bide his time and work extra hard to win back his shoe in start.

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      Reply #48: Sep 08, 2017 12:19:01 pm
      I think we'll win this one comfortably for some reason.

      The bookies don't though, some value to be had on a reds win. 3/1 seems a bit harsh really.

      Should be closer to evens in my opinion.
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      Reply #49: Sep 08, 2017 01:09:53 pm
      Same as against Arsenal.
      Sit a bit deeper, let them have the ball in their own half, attack the midfield around halfway, get in behind the full backs.
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      Reply #50: Sep 08, 2017 01:30:17 pm
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      Reply #51: Sep 08, 2017 01:33:56 pm
      Phill going straight back in could be construed as favouritism on Klopp's behalf, also disrespectful to the dressing room who have worked hard to earn a first X1 berth,

      After his antics I doubt Jürgen will slot him in , he's certainly not in the Mama bracket but he has pissed off the boss so won't be forgiven that easily,
      It would also be harsh on whoever would miss out after playing so well recently,

      Coutinho will have to bide his time and work extra hard to win back his shoe in start.

      YNWA

      https://twitter.com/_ChrisBascombe/status/906124946161762305

      Looks like you were right mate. Bold decision by the boss that, I hope it pays off for him. Left out of the squad completely removes that temptation if we are behind to throw him on against your better judgement.

      I think he's made the 'right' choice, certainly in terms of squad harmony, fingers crossed we get the 3 points then this wont be an issue.
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      Reply #52: Sep 08, 2017 01:42:34 pm
      I think he's made the 'right' choice,

      Like I said yesterday - entirely agree.  Squad did an outstanding job v Arsenal and deserve another go at it.  Must be heading towards 6 months since we last lost a game so I am braced for one at some point soon.
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      Reply #53: Sep 08, 2017 01:48:36 pm
      Like I said yesterday - entirely agree.  Squad did an outstanding job v Arsenal and deserve another go at it.  Must be heading towards 6 months since we last lost a game so I am braced for one at some point soon.

      And the inevitable sh*t storm when we loose
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      Reply #54: Sep 08, 2017 01:57:39 pm
      And the inevitable sh*t storm when we loose
      Fixed haha.  :P
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      Re: Pre Match - Man City vs. Liverpool - 9th Sept. 12:30 GMT (Let the Games Resume)
      Reply #55: Sep 08, 2017 04:49:24 pm
      https://twitter.com/_ChrisBascombe/status/906124946161762305

      Looks like you were right mate. Bold decision by the boss that, I hope it pays off for him. Left out of the squad completely removes that temptation if we are behind to throw him on against your better judgement.

      I think he's made the 'right' choice, certainly in terms of squad harmony, fingers crossed we get the 3 points then this wont be an issue.

      I also think this is the right decision.  Everyone knows Phil's been fit enough to play the last few weeks -- he trained and played a couple of cameos for Brazil during the international break -- but he can't be allowed to walk straight back into the 11 after trying to engineer a move away.  This "we are monitoring his back injury and getting him match fit" excuse allows Klopp to say 1 thing to the media, while sending another message to Coutinho and the team.  I think Klopp will be telling Phil that he needs to get his head down, work his socks off in training, and earn his place back.  No one plays based on reputation -- you have to earn your spot with commitment, hard work, and dedication on the training pitch.  Then  perform well in games to keep your place.
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      Reply #56: Sep 08, 2017 07:07:22 pm
      Interesting one this.  If we can beat City without Coutinho, and play like we did against Arsenal, I don't see Phil getting back in barring injuries.  The midfield looks better balanced, the left side has better cover and the attack has more pace and penetration with the lads who played our recent matches.  That's what I think, anyhow.  And I can see us winning this.  Can't see us losing, anyway. 

                           Mignolet back in (always does better after a 'rest')
                  Trent    Matip   Lovren    Robertson (positional sense will be vital and he can cross)
                                Henderson
                            Gini           Can
                         Salah  Firmino  Mane

      I'm not convinced by the 'Gini can't play away from home' argument.  He just can't seem to score.
      His contribution is very easy to overlook in the tension of the game.

      COYMR!!
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      Reply #57: Sep 08, 2017 07:19:25 pm
      Gone for a 2  1 win for the Reds, in what should be an interesting game.
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      Reply #58: Sep 08, 2017 07:22:54 pm
      I'd have played Coutinho myself, but I 100% understand the boss's decision not to do it. If we don't get the result we're after, only a fool would say "he should have played Coutinho", considering he hasn't kicked a ball in anger for us since the season started.

      FWIW I think it's a really tough game and I'd take a point all day long.
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      Reply #59: Sep 08, 2017 07:34:18 pm
      So with Phil definitely not included, I guess the two quesitons on here are the fullback positions, TAA or Joe, Andy or Alby. I guess Phil not being in would open a slot on the bench for either Solanke or Woodburn (along with Sturridge, Milner, Ox, Klavan and Gomez or TAA.

      Klopp was pretty clear in his presser he plans to use a lot of players over this 7 match in 23-day stretch. I think we're even going to see Karius in goal, maybe as early as this week vs. Seville. Let's see how deep the squad truly is.
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      Reply #60: Sep 08, 2017 07:44:23 pm
                         Mignolet
      Trent-A - Matip - Lovren - Moreno
                       Henderson
               Can                 Wijnaldum
      Salah          Firmino            Mane

      Doubt he'll drop Moreno, he has been playing well lately and I'd rather have Moreno deal with Walker / their right winger than Robertson at the moment. Same on the right, Trent over Gomez. Gomez has been decent on the right, but he gets beaten way too easily sometimes and he just seems to be less mobile than Trent.

      Wijnaldum also always starts for me here. He's brilliant in these high tempo transition games, probably our best midfielder at that and his performances in the big away games last season were very important too.

      Really looking forward to this game, last season's games were absolute crackers, very high tempo, intense games, perfect for our lads and I can see us win this one. Haven't got a clue how City are going to line up. Kompany is supposed to be out for this one, so they probably won't be playing three at the back or Pep has to play Fernandinho in their back three and get Yaya Toure on the pitch again. Sterling is suspensed, so not sure who's going to play on the wings. Guardialo might start with Jesus and Sane there with Aguero as their striker.
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      Reply #61: Sep 08, 2017 10:25:17 pm
      Thought he might bring Cou and at least have him as an option. Not start, just use if needed.
      Can't 'really' be fitness, tidy finish for Brazil, thought he could do a job for 15 mins for us as a sub, depending on how things going.
      Can understand Klopp sticking by the lads who've done well so far, though we do need to induct Cou back in at some stage.
      I deffo don't think he shouldn't walk back into the 1st XI, but leaving him out altogether was a surprise.
      It's a balancing act, sure - but a situation Cou caused, so regardless of result, Jürgen is doing what he thinks is best for the squad and won't get any criticism from me for dropping him if we loose.
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      Reply #62: Sep 08, 2017 10:30:35 pm
                         Mignolet
      Trent-A - Matip - Lovren - Moreno
                       Henderson
               Can                 Wijnaldum
      Salah          Firmino            Mane

      Doubt he'll drop Moreno, he has been playing well lately and I'd rather have Moreno deal with Walker / their right winger than Robertson at the moment. Same on the right, Trent over Gomez. Gomez has been decent on the right, but he gets beaten way too easily sometimes and he just seems to be less mobile than Trent.

      Wijnaldum also always starts for me here. He's brilliant in these high tempo transition games, probably our best midfielder at that and his performances in the big away games last season were very important too.

      Really looking forward to this game, last season's games were absolute crackers, very high tempo, intense games, perfect for our lads and I can see us win this one. Haven't got a clue how City are going to line up. Kompany is supposed to be out for this one, so they probably won't be playing three at the back or Pep has to play Fernandinho in their back three and get Yaya Toure on the pitch again. Sterling is suspensed, so not sure who's going to play on the wings. Guardialo might start with Jesus and Sane there with Aguero as their striker.

      By the way, it's probably next weekend vs. Burnley when Klopp freshens up the squad. He could certainly name the same 11 at Seville midweek (hearing again the idea of Karius playing in the Euro matches so maybe with that exception). Burnley then would be the opportunity to rest some players and give Sturridge, Solanke, and others a chance against a team that will definitely sit deep.
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      Re: Pre Match - Man City vs. Liverpool - 9th Sept. 12:30 GMT (Let the Games Resume)
      Reply #63: Sep 08, 2017 10:48:31 pm
      Just grab the 3 points even if we have to play ugly.
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      Reply #64: Sep 09, 2017 01:11:49 am
      Just grab the 3 points even if we have to play ugly.

      I'd take that. Don't think our record against them has been bad at all under Klopp. Think we've beaten them virtually every time haven't we? But, we go into this game knowing we are more than capable of getting the win, especially the way they were so nearly held by Bournemouth!

      No Kompany for them, surely Stones and their defence wont be able to handle our front 3...


      TAA and Robertson. IMO.
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      Reply #65: Sep 09, 2017 01:36:07 am
      I'd take that. Don't think our record against them has been bad at all under Klopp. Think we've beaten them virtually every time haven't we? But, we go into this game knowing we are more than capable of getting the win, especially the way they were so nearly held by Bournemouth!

      No Kompany for them, surely Stones and their defence wont be able to handle our front 3...

      TAA and Robertson. IMO.

      City 3 at the back.
      Same as Arsenal.
      Do nicely.
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      Reply #66: Sep 09, 2017 01:40:08 am
      City 3 at the back.
      Same as Arsenal.
      Do nicely.

      Sure as hell that back 3 don't have the pace either, Mane and Salah could be a nightmare for them
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      Reply #67: Sep 09, 2017 03:56:19 am
      Sticking with my 3-1 win
      Goals from Hendo, Lovren (a header form a TAA corner) and mane.
      Mig
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      Matip
      Lovren
      Robertson
      Hendo
      Can
      Gini
      Salah
      Firmino
      Mane

      Bench:
      Karius
      Klaven
      Ox
      Milner
      Woodburn
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      Solanke
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      Reply #68: Sep 09, 2017 07:04:57 am
      4-1 win.

      Firmino double, and goals to Emre and Mane.

      Done.
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      Reply #69: Sep 09, 2017 07:05:20 am
      Kompany is out, Sterling suspended. Everything helps. I'm going for a draw.
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      Reply #70: Sep 09, 2017 07:07:03 am
      Same side that battered the Arse, except Karius of course, onus is on City to take the game to us, Pep doesn't do bus parking so that should favour us, City without Kompany is a bonus although I still think we'd do them had he played,

      They have a better midfield than we do but that's not to say we can't get in amongst them (Can be careful)  our attack is much more potent and a lot quicker and I can't see their back 3/4 coping very well, our defence is nothing to write home about but is better than some are making out and I think will cope with their attackers better than they will of ours,

      Not easy by any stretch but it's a good time to be visiting the Eithad, the new City haven't quite settled as yet and will get better as the season gets older ,

      We are settled, comfortable with each other and playing with confidence, difficult to best and very difficult to handle, only one outcome for me.

      It's possible that City put under extreme pressure, which we will, COULD capitulate altogether, if that's the case we could put 4 0r 5 past them , realistically  it's likely to be much tighter but I do think we'll do them.

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      Reply #71: Sep 09, 2017 07:19:46 am
      Kompany is out, Sterling suspended. Everything helps. I'm going for a draw.

      Our magician also out.

      Can't wait, coyr.

      Win please. :)
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      Reply #72: Sep 09, 2017 08:02:52 am
      Can't fkn wait. Just under 4.5 till KO.  Buzzing already, literally!
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      Reply #73: Sep 09, 2017 11:10:42 am
      Think we will absolutely batter City today, feeling very confident.

      Come on you reds!
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      Reply #74: Sep 09, 2017 11:21:10 am
      Not long to go now. Looking forward to this did we draw at city last season
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      Reply #75: Sep 09, 2017 11:21:58 am
      Stuck at work for this one, radio only again.
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      Reply #76: Sep 09, 2017 11:24:17 am
      Stuck at work for this one, radio only again.


      Nothing worse than work and radio

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