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      The defence, a discussion

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      MIRO
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      Re: The defence, a discussion
      Reply #120: Oct 26, 2017 06:44:10 pm
      4 of the back 5 are Rodgers signings. Our key weakness under BR and yet 2 years on we have only managed to replace Sakho for Matip.

      Ridiculous.

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      Reply #121: Oct 27, 2017 01:27:55 am

      Our problems don't stem from whom bought what, but rather legacy policy. It wouldn't have made the slightest difference to our fortunes if Klopp had brought players in under the same constraints, they'd be cheap and they'd lack talent. Similarly if Rodgers had spent £70 odd million each on Center Backs he'd probably still be in the job. You get what you pay for. We paid peanuts so we got monkeys. It's as simple as that. The spine needs a lot of money on it over the next couple of windows.
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      Reply #122: Oct 27, 2017 12:54:43 pm
      We needed 2 top class centre backs and we went out and spunked £70 million plus on 2 wingers.

      You'll win f**k all without a solid base at the back.
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      Reply #123: Oct 27, 2017 01:02:27 pm
      We needed 2 top class centre backs and we went out and spunked £70 million plus on 2 wingers.

      You'll win f**k all without a solid base at the back.

      But, but there weren't any defenders better than Lovren, don't you know. :(  :f_steam: :mad: >:(
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      Reply #124: Oct 28, 2017 01:54:23 pm

      The Reds have conceded 16 goals, their worst record at this stage of a league season since 1964 when they leaked 20 in their first nine matches.

      BBC Sport

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      Reply #125: Oct 29, 2017 01:31:03 am
      In the League.

      At home - four games, one conceded, three clean sheets. (0.25 conceded goals per game)
      Away - five games, fifteen conceded, no clean sheets. (3 goals conceded per game)

      Are we just too open away from home? Are teams that much more negative when they visit Anfield? Has it just been good luck that we've only conceded once at Anfield?

      Another home game, another home clean sheet.

      So in terms of conceding it's now one in five at home, fifteen in five away.
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      Reply #126: Oct 31, 2017 06:08:45 pm
      ngl i miss the days of our solid defence in the rafa era
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      Reply #127: Nov 19, 2017 03:59:13 am
      One goal conceded in six Premier League games at Anfield this season following the Southampton game. And the Saints became the second team this season who failed to land a single shot on target against us at home.

      So as bad as the defence has looked this year, there's certainly something to be said about our home record. Which defensively may be the best in the League based solely on home games in comparison to the worst based solely on away games.
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      Reply #128: Nov 19, 2017 09:17:50 am
      One goal conceded in six Premier League games at Anfield this season following the Southampton game. And the Saints became the second team this season who failed to land a single shot on target against us at home.

      So as bad as the defence has looked this year, there's certainly something to be said about our home record. Which defensively may be the best in the League based solely on home games in comparison to the worst based solely on away games.

      Yup weird isn’t it.

      Watford, Citeh, Spurs and Leicester were like the “Stranger Things” upside down of the defence at home....... :mad:
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      Reply #129: Nov 19, 2017 10:08:30 am
      The problem is panic. We panic when someone attacks us rather do our best to sniff their chance. Confidence is key!
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      Reply #130: Dec 03, 2017 12:17:28 pm
      With all our defensive injuries, is there a good player in the U23 which can be a good back-up? I rarely follow the U23 and do not know many players (except Ejaria, Woodburn, Wilson).
      « Last Edit: Dec 03, 2017 12:25:51 pm by clint_call01 »
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      Reply #131: Dec 04, 2017 02:24:32 am
      In Jürgen's first season, if we weren't on top early the match comms almost always started talking about putting Benteke on so we could start lumping high balls into the box, totally oblivious to it not being in any way the system and tactic Klopp was using.

      I don't hear that anymore thankfully, but I think many are much slower to pick up on the type of center back Klopp prefers to use (and the way he likes to use them), which is also a significant departure from the English tactical stereotype.

      While Saturday may have been a day when just about any warm body would have done (Sorry Gini), he's not going to buy someone he isn't confident will fit into his style and system.
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      Reply #132: Apr 16, 2018 02:07:15 pm
      Just to throw it out there, we've kept as many clean sheets as City this year. More than Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal. Only United have more clean sheets than us now, just by one that is.
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      Reply #133: Apr 16, 2018 03:00:35 pm
      Just to throw it out there, we've kept as many clean sheets as City this year. More than Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal. Only United have more clean sheets than us now, just by one that is.

      It's massive to be honest!
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      Reply #134: Apr 16, 2018 03:09:15 pm
      Imagine if we played Karius and Robertson from the start with Southampton selling VVD in the summer...
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      Reply #135: Apr 16, 2018 03:15:12 pm
      Imagine if we played Karius and Robertson from the start with Southampton selling VVD in the summer...
      Yep. I reckon you would find that the gap between ourselves and City was less considerable.
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      Reply #136: Apr 16, 2018 03:54:35 pm
      Yep. I reckon you would find that the gap between ourselves and City was less considerable.

      Next season with Keita added and the Ox fully settled we will be up there!
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      Reply #137: Apr 16, 2018 10:00:27 pm
      The Reds have conceded 16 goals, their worst record at this stage of a league season since 1964 when they leaked 20 in their first nine matches.

      BBC Sport

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41703861

      6 months on. 

      Brilliant turn around.   Robbo   Trent   Virgil and Karius.

      Still have  Gomez and Clyne as back ups.

      Lovren improved.

      All good stuff.
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      Reply #138: Apr 16, 2018 10:46:21 pm
      16 goals in 10 games at that stage.

      19 in the next 24 games.

      Probably more relevant, 8 in 12 PL games since VVD’s debut.

      Assuming we matched that kind of rate with VVD in from the beginning we would have comfortably the best defence in the league.
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      Reply #139: Apr 16, 2018 10:48:46 pm
      6 months on. 

      Brilliant turn around.   Robbo   Trent   Virgil and Karius.

      Still have  Gomez and Clyne as back ups.

      Lovren improved.

      All good stuff.

      16 goals in 10 games at that stage.

      19 in the next 24 games.

      Probably more relevant, 8 in 12 PL games since VVD’s debut.

      Assuming we matched that kind of rate with VVD in from the beginning we would have comfortably the best defence in the league.

      Sure I read on Twitter today we’ve conceded fewest in league since Spurs at Wombley....,
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      Reply #140: Apr 16, 2018 10:52:09 pm
      Sure I read on Twitter today we’ve conceded fewest in league since Spurs at Wombley....,
      Not surprised mate, last game we have conceded more than a single goal I believe. And that probably includes champions league.
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      Reply #141: Apr 17, 2018 03:41:37 am
      Not surprised mate, last game we have conceded more than a single goal I believe. And that probably includes champions league.
      Nah mate. City home back in Jan had 4-3, Spurs 2-2 with a dodgy penalty, and a worldie.
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      Reply #142: Apr 17, 2018 07:27:02 am
      Nah mate. City home back in Jan had 4-3, Spurs 2-2 with a dodgy penalty, and a worldie.
      Aye that’s what I’m saying, Spurs was the last game we conceded more than 1 goal.

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