Malfunctioning Midfield

Next season will be the Defenses turn for an over haul.

More than likely, although I do expect 1 defender to sign out of the blue either this summer or in January.

Wouldnt be surprised to hear that klopp is waiting for his no.1 choice to be available.

What f***in mess ? F**k sake not as if we’re playing a shed load of kids ffs, Lavia will come in , that’s one problem solved, may even see another come in before the window shuts,

We all know Jürgen likes new blokes in early but that’s not always possible, there’s too much negativity in these boards, have a bit more faith, we’re bang on up top, we’ve added fresher younger legs in midfield, we have players coming back from injury a lot fresher, we have a newish system that will make us difficult to handle, we have young lads chompin at the bit, we have further additions imminent, and we have a new Captain, a new vice captain and about a million other positive things going on,

Sounds like some of you are ready to chuck the f***in towel in and we haven’t kicked a ball in anger yet, I can’t be the only f**ker excited by the changes made this summer, f***in hell even Jürgen is excited, you can here it in his voice,

Honestly, never known such negative vibes on the cusp of a new campaign, has the toxicity seeped across Stanley park from that fu**ed up club that’s Championship bound , f***in sounds like it ??


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I think it's a mess to be here 3 weeks after Fabinho said he wanted to leave with no defensive midfielder signed and ready to go. That player should have been on the plane to Singapore to have a decent pre season and be ready to start against Chelsea. The F***ing about over a few million should have binned off the moment we let both Fab and Hendo go. Now we will be putting square pegs into round holes at the start of the season - might get away with it normally but it's much harder to keep up when that cheating beast that is City are around.

If that's me being negative or having a meltdown then fair enough I'm negative and having a meltdown.

Klopp has already said there will be more signings, so lets trust him.

Wee Bajetic and Thiago are only just back in training thats another 2 MF to add into the mix for the friendly next week I imagine, and then for Chelsea.

I agree with folk that say, lets just put trent in MF and just play a RB, Gomez or Connor Bradley.

But thats for Klopp and co. to sort out.

You guys recall players just drifting past Fabinho left right and centre last season right?

Some carrying on as if he was at the peak of his powers.

Yes we haven't replaced the DM, and we will I'm sure, but the stuff we've seen during pre season is just to be as likely if Fabinho was still here playing as he did for the vast majority of last season

Well F**k off and F**k Jesus another figment of you’re warped imagination gobs***e !!

Nah, you can be the same fool as last season living in a bubble but the lack of organisation and structure needs to be called out and addressed properly

It’s people like you who supported the lack of preparation who then suddenly posters “oh woooow I can’t believe we struggled” like dumbo the Elephant doing the same again here

Always the same people making the same excuses

So Jesus still got you to run your mouth like a true keyboard warrior, maybe if I say what lucifer would think of your typing young lad

You guys recall players just drifting past Fabinho left right and centre last season right?

Some carrying on as if he was at the peak of his powers.

Yes we haven't replaced the DM, and we will I'm sure, but the stuff we've seen during pre season is just to be as likely if Fabinho was still here playing as he did for the vast majority of last season

We had three main weaknesses last year

Dm/dm

Cb (lack of pace mainly at times)

Rb

I’m sure you would agree with the above as they cost us a lot of goals ?

Explain if any one of them have been fully addressed? Much like last season we have tried to paper over the cracks and it’s getting to the stage where people who don’t call this out are also harming the club btw 

I think it's a mess to be here 3 weeks after Fabinho said he wanted to leave with no defensive midfielder signed and ready to go. That player should have been on the plane to Singapore to have a decent pre season and be ready to start against Chelsea. The F***ing about over a few million should have binned off the moment we let both Fab and Hendo go. Now we will be putting square pegs into round holes at the start of the season - might get away with it normally but it's much harder to keep up when that cheating beast that is City are around.

If that's me being negative or having a meltdown then fair enough I'm negative and having a meltdown.

Exactly this, it needs to be called but I cannot believe how many people live in a bubble on here. They really remind me of arsenal fans pretending everything was rosey(prior to last season) despite not seeing the obvious and then being shocked when they were being battered

We had three main weaknesses last year

Dm/dm

Cb (lack of pace mainly at times)

Rb

I’m sure you would agree with the above as they cost us a lot of goals ?

Explain if any one of them have been fully addressed? Much like last season we have tried to paper over the cracks and it’s getting to the stage where people who don’t call this out are also harming the club btw

So how are you going to “call it out”

What exactly are you going to do to make sure the club does what you want ( as opposed to what Klopp wants )

So how are you going to “call it out”

What exactly are you going to do to make sure the club does what you want ( as opposed to what Klopp wants )

I can’t, what can I do? But people like you and billy who live in Alice and wonderland will always need to be told of the reality is clear

Complain others and I are being negative or whatever, but those people need to be called out and told with hard truths even if they throw a keyboard tantrum

We are sleep walking into another poor season and it’s obvious

Do you not see how bad our defence is as a team and our glaring weaknesses ?

We were easy to get at last season and nothing has changed from that to stop it from happening this season

I can’t, what can I do? But people like you and billy who live in Alice and wonderland will always need to be told of the reality is clear

Complain others and I are being negative or whatever, but those people need to be called out and told with hard truths even if they throw a keyboard tantrum

We are sleep walking into another poor season and it’s obvious

Do you not see how bad our defence is as a team and our glaring weaknesses ?

We were easy to get at last season and nothing has changed from that to stop it from happening this season

And I’ll just wait for the season start , take my seat and get behind the players and the manager

I have no doubt that Klopp will be looking at things and looking to make adjustments

And maybe I don’t think it’s all as doom and gloom as you

We had three main weaknesses last year

Dm/dm

Cb (lack of pace mainly at times)

Rb

I’m sure you would agree with the above as they cost us a lot of goals ?

Explain if any one of them have been fully addressed? Much like last season we have tried to paper over the cracks and it’s getting to the stage where people who don’t call this out are also harming the club btw 

Harming the club you guys are so dramatic.

And I'm not convinced everything has been addressed but for me it's also a coaching issue as we're still setting up in a formation that we don't quite have the players for.

And I’ll just wait for the season start , take my seat and get behind the players and the manager

I have no doubt that Klopp will be looking at things and looking to make adjustments

And maybe I don’t think it’s all as doom and gloom as you

Yeah let’s hope klopp can work his magic again as his financial supported is quite limited without a lot of sales as it has been before. Hopefully we can fight for 4th

Yeah let’s hope klopp can work his magic again as his financial supported is quite limited without a lot of sales as it has been before. Hopefully we can fight for 4th

It’s got nothing to do with financial support 🤦‍♂️

Harming the club you guys are so dramatic.

And I'm not convinced everything has been addressed but for me it's also a coaching issue as we're still setting up in a formation that we don't quite have the players for.

There’s only so much you can coach of it was that simple as coaching everyone would be good as messi was

It’s about physical and mental attributes which we are lacking in some positions

Last year it cost us a lot of points and the same will happen this year

The definition of insanity was once said to repeat something that has not worked previously and hope for different results

That is what we are doing this summer

It’s got nothing to do with financial support 🤦‍♂️

Sure it doesn’t

We have to work with our limitations that’s clear, we can’t just go out and buy a quality cb, rb or dm, maybe we can get one of them and hope for the best with the rest

Sure it doesn’t

We have to work with our limitations that’s clear, we can’t just go out and buy a quality cb, rb or dm, maybe we can get one of them and hope for the best with the rest

Just because you think they need a rb doesn’t mean that’s actually what Klopp thinks

There is also a very good right back being promoted through - shall we get behind him instead

Last I heard they were also bidding for a DM

And talk that a CB will be next

So maybe the point is that it’s better to wait until the recruitment is done and we see how the squad settles then

As opposed to every day throwing your toys about

The window isn’t shut , the season hasn’t started

There’s only so much you can coach of it was that simple as coaching everyone would be good as messi was

It’s about physical and mental attributes which we are lacking in some positions

Last year it cost us a lot of points and the same will happen this year

The definition of insanity was once said to repeat something that has not worked previously and hope for different results

That is what we are doing this summer

Then you don't play a system that you don't have the players for. It's not that hard to understand.

Or you do what we seem to be doing and going with it and prepared to take the negatives, i.e. concede more goals but he much more attacking.

I think Jürgen is settled on Trent inverting to CM and sorting beside a less traditional '6' of we don't have one.

It wouldn't be my choice but I'm not paid millions to coach Liverpool Football Club.

Just because you think they need a rb doesn’t mean that’s actually what Klopp thinks

There is also a very good right back being promoted through - shall we get behind him instead

Last I heard they were also bidding for a DM

And talk that a CB will be next

So maybe the point is that it’s better to wait until the recruitment is done and we see how the squad settles then

As opposed to every day throwing your toys about

The window isn’t shut , the season hasn’t started

Knock knock

The season is starting very soon

That’s the problem, this should have been done and dusted

We are nearly starting the season and have not addressed the issues of last season, how are you not understanding ?

If coaching woul have fixed it, then it would not have happened last season, because it did shows it doesn’t work like that

You can’t make matip or vvd get their pace back for example or you can’t suddenly coach players back into their prime

People are so oblivious on here that is scary

Then you don't play a system that you don't have the players for. It's not that hard to understand.

Or you do what we seem to be doing and going with it and prepared to take the negatives, i.e. concede more goals but he much more attacking.

I think Jürgen is settled on Trent inverting to CM and sorting beside a less traditional '6' of we don't have one.

It wouldn't be my choice but I'm not paid millions to coach Liverpool Football Club.

If we don’t buy new players to fix our issues

Will the same happen as last season generally ?

You know the answer is yes as I can tell you’re on the ball around here, they were coached last season but because of a lack of physical and mental quality, it did not fix the issues

The same will happen this season unless new players are bought and they are coached to settle in our system

The issue is the season is starting and NONE of our issues are fixed from last season, the pre season games show it with same players impacting our defending in games

To try and stay on topic you could make an argument that if we're to keep playing this system a LCB is an even more pressing need than DM.

We get Lavia and it doesn't fully realise this formation the way it should in my opinion as the left side is still going to play like a more traditional 4 3 3.

As someone said yesterday we could very well be talking about the malfunctioning defense this season.

Anyway I’m not going to argue with people over this as I know some have agendas here and some don’t but just want to be supportive but good luck and don’t say it wasn’t said when the same issues repeat itself from last season as we are simply trying again with the same players

Knock knock

The season is starting very soon

That’s the problem, this should have been done and dusted

We are nearly starting the season and have not addressed the issues of last season, how are you not understanding ?

If coaching woul have fixed it, then it would not have happened last season, because it did shows it doesn’t work like that

You can’t make matip or vvd get their pace back for example or you can’t suddenly coach players back into their prime

People are so oblivious on here that is scary

Are you that naïve to think it’s that easy to get all the signings needed in nice and early

As for coaching and adjusting


How did we do for the last 12 games of the season after Klopp made some changes

To try and stay on topic you could make an argument that if we're to keep playing this system a LCB is an even more pressing need than DM.

We get Lavia and it doesn't fully realise this formation the way it should in my opinion as the left side is still going to play like a more traditional 4 3 3.

As someone said yesterday we could vert well be talking about the malfunctioning defense this season.

Both are needed urgently

I mean real urgent

We need a proper dm, not jones who shouldn’t be in any top 4 team imo

Also a cb but we won’t get one as we haven’t sold our existing one and I can see the response being why would we buy one when we have 5

They can’t be coached to be quicker at this stage