Pre-Match: West Ham V Liverpool (4th Nov 2017 - 17:30)

Its time we started winning a few on the bounce and this is surely another fixture that will allow us to do so even if we do have a large number out injured. West Ham are piss poor and Bilic is under pressure. I actually think playing them away suits us better with every Hammer in the stadium anxious.

Another clean sheet and a few goals please. 3-0 and the Ox to score first! 

This is the true test to see if we've turned a corner after the Spurs debacle.

I'd go with Sturridge for this particular match, save Firmino for the home game against Southampton. Hammers aren't doing particularly well and we're probably facing another parking of buses and you don't need movement as much as you need a clinical finisher. Other than that I'd keep that team which pretty much picks itself.

For the life of me, I can't understand how people continue to select Mignolet in their preferred eleven.

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This is probably the team (with Gini out) except Sturridge should return to the starting lineup for Ox.

West Ham are a poor team at the moment so we should win this quite easily.

Hope we don't see the combo of Hendo, Can and Milner in midfield talk about one paced plods!

West Ham are a poor team at the moment so we should win this quite easily.

Without Countino, Lallana, Clyne, Mané and even Lovren (who I consider better than Klavan) it's not a gimme. I still hope Coutinho can play or is he out for sure?

As good a time as any to face the Hammers with our current injuries, seeing as they've got quite a few of their own to deal with right now.

They should be without Fonte, Zabaleta, Byram and Antonio. Reid and Cresswell are doubts (both will likely play).

I quite liked how we ended against Huddersfield with a sort of 3 at the back with Matip pushing forward a bit more.



Moreno and Trent (or even Chamberlain) can whip them in like they did against Maribor. Firmino playing central with both Sturridge and Salah as options in front of him.

Guess we're likely to see almost the exact same starting eleven as against Maribor with Henderson coming in for Wijnaldum and Gomez for Trent. Would rather not see that midfield three again though.

Was Coutinho training today? If not then he's not going to be playing.

Can't see much change from midweek. Gomez back in. Be tempted to look at Chamberlain as one of the 3 in midfield if Coutinho can play.

He can take the pens as well.

Gonna be more difficult than Huddersfield and Maribor!

              Karius
TAA, Gomez, Matip, Moreno
               Can
       Hendo    Firmino
Salah     Solanke    Ox

Thats the team I want to see tbh, still think Klopp should take a gamble on Solanke!!!
           

As good a time as any to face the Hammers with our current injuries, seeing as they've got quite a few of their own to deal with right now.

They should be without Fonte, Zabaleta, Byram and Antonio. Reid and Cresswell are doubts (both will likely play).

I quite liked how we ended against Huddersfield with a sort of 3 at the back with Matip pushing forward a bit more.



Moreno and Trent (or even Chamberlain) can whip them in like they did against Maribor. Firmino playing central with both Sturridge and Salah as options in front of him.

Guess we're likely to see almost the exact same starting eleven as against Maribor with Henderson coming in for Wijnaldum and Gomez for Trent. Would rather not see that midfield three again though.

Don't mind the look of that but I doubt Klopp will start with a 3-4-3. Could see him going there if things don't go well though.
In terms of Milner, Hendo and Can being our midfield, I'm afraid that Klopp will go with that as long as Wijlnadum is out as he's been reluctant to start our youngsters. Hopefully by the time Couts, Lallana and Mane are back, we wont have to see those three together ever again.

I think Klopp will go for:

                      Migs
Gomes     Matip      Klavan    Moreno
                      Hendo
          Can                    Milner
     Salah                         Firmino
                   Sturridge

I wouldn't mind seeing

                    Karius
      Gomes     Matip     Klavan
                    Hendo
   TAA                            Moreno
                  Woodburn
                    Firmino
    Salah                       Sturridge
                   

For the life of me, I can't understand how people continue to select Mignolet in their preferred eleven.

Because Klopp will always select him.

Without Countino, Lallana, Clyne, Mané and even Lovren (who I consider better than Klavan) it's not a gimme. I still hope Coutinho can play or is he out for sure?

We are exact opposite. I think Klavan is better than Lovren. Not only that but Lovren induces panic in Matip.

Won't be as tight as the Huddersfield and Maribor games in terms of the amount of double decker's on the pitch but that doesn't mean it's a god given 3 points to us.
They will come at us which will leave gaps so we have to punish them and make sure fingertips Hart doesn't play a blinder.

Put our chances away when we get them and we should gather the points against this lot..
Fanny about across the back, allow them in and it could all go horribly wrong..

2-1 Chamberlain with the winner !
 

These are the type of games I fear. Games that we are expected to win comfortably against a side at the bottom end of the table in dire form. Maybe its my imagination but it always seems to be bloody Liverpool who these sh*te teams decide to raise their game against.

From what I've seen of west ham for the past year or so, it looks as if Bilic has lost his dressing room so they say, and its only a matter of time before he gets the bullet. I did see them at Tottenham in the league cup a week or two ago though. Even though they were their usual dire selves in the first half, they came out a completely different animal in the second half and looked like the side they were when Bilic first started managing them. They fully deserved their win and they proved that they are still a very capable side if they play to their potential.  If they come out like that against us, we're in for a very tough game.

We all know about Andy Carroll and if he's fit and they play to his strengths then I worry he will cause us all kinds of problems. I can just picture Mignolet now refusing to collect crosses and Klavan and Matip flapping as a consequence.

But that's enough worrying about them. If we turn up and play to our maximum then it doesn't matter what West Ham do, we will win this game. I just hope our boys don't turn up thinking the game is already won before a ball is kicked. They might have to roll their sleeves up for this one....

I'd continue with Karius personally who hasn't put a foot wrong this season that I can recall, but I'm pretty sure Jürgen will bring Mignolet back.

Back four of Gomez, Matip, Klavan, Moreno.

Midfield three of Henderson, Can, Ox.

Front three of Salah, Sturridge, Firmino.


                           Mignolet

Gomez           Matip         Klavan           Moreno

                    Hendo          Can

         Salah              Ox              Firmino

                          Sturridge


Going for a 2-0 win for the reds.

Because Klopp will always select him.

And until he stops doing so and over the long term replaces him, along with the rest of the spine, we will continue to win F**k all.

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fingertips Hart doesn't play a blinder.

Standard that the opposition keeper has a blinder against us.

Don't think much of West Ham these days - they do seem to have gone backwards in the past 18 months.  I do think they're unpredictable though.  That game against Spurs summed them up.  Completely hopeless first half then come from 2-0 down to win 3-2 in the second half.

I really hope we get the win to give us all a sense of peaceful inner tranquility during the following 2 weeks of international 'friendlies' FFS!

You'd like to think that the team might have an eye on the gang of Lallana, Clyne, Mane, Coutinho all probably returning after this game so this weekend will not be a game for them to go AWOL.

This is what I'd like

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And this is what I expect

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Can see us winning this one.  Wham cannot just sit and wait, they will have to come at us, which should leave plenty of space for Salah to miss half a dozen before he slots one home.

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Bad idea Senegal will want him for the Internationals.

Bad idea Senegal will want him for the Internationals.

F**k them

Can see us winning this one.  Wham cannot just sit and wait, they will have to come at us, which should leave plenty of space for Salah to miss half a dozen before he slots one home.

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Feel anything could happen, in this game. Although going for a win for the Reds.

West Ham are a poor team at the moment so we should win this quite easily.

Is this the West Ham we're on about that have just beaten the team from 2-0 down that have just thumped Liverpool 4-1 and Real Madrid 3-1

No easy game this. I know that's cliche but I'm not confident of getting all three points with such ease as we did against Maribor.

All depends on us getting out the traps really fast and getting their bevvied up crowd frustrated. Take an early goal and we should be alright. If it takes a long time to take any chances, you'd have to be concerned they'll grow into the game.

Our defence will have to be aggressive. No doubt they will try to put ariel pressure on us. We need to win it back and move the ball fast.

Again hoping to see something a little different, maybe slightly more adventurous selection, but don't expect it, am sure Jürgen will go with the tried and trusted.
Maybe a start for Sturridge, did he get the opener last time we went there? Super finish.
Could be doing with three points, don't want the gap to top4 widening too much.

 The press for whatever reason has reduced dramatically so for that reason would play Sturridge all day  long

Can see us winning this one.  Wham cannot just sit and wait, they will have to come at us, which should leave plenty of space for Salah to miss half a dozen before he slots one home.

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If Bilic thinks the way to beat us is park the bus and counter, that’s exactly what he’ll do.
No way will he come out and play open footy, as everyone is aware of what generally turns us over.

No point in taking a cautious approach, we don't defend well enough to do a number on them. Pick an out and out attacking team, take the game to them and hope we can fend off their counter attacks.

We have to keep up the momentum and get 3 points.
One thing I liked about the mid week game was the patience shown...at the time I didn’t but afterwards I thought that was an encouraging sign.
Solidity is great but now for an injection of pace again into our attack.
Going for a 2-1 win but not massively optimistic.

They'll play a back 5 - hope we start taking pop shots from the edge of the box; Hart will fluff a few. Can see the Mexican scoring, always does against us. Tempo of the game will be based on how early we score. We should try to wrap this up by half time.

Another match for us to boost our confidence. Easy on paper; we need the win simply because we haven't been ripping up trees [Gunners aside] against too many above us (and wasn't doing just that our claim to fame last season?).

A nice win keeps us in touch while others will drop points.

Close that gap redmen.

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Lovren fit to play. Bringing him in to replace Klavan, good or bad? Klavan part of two back to back clean sheets and not done anything wrong.

Mane on the bench! Be good to being him on in second half.

If Bilic thinks the way to beat us is park the bus and counter, that’s exactly what he’ll do.
No way will he come out and play open footy, as everyone is aware of what generally turns us over.

If they do park the bus, it'd be interesting to see our approach. We've won our last two comfortably against bus parkers by playing the rope a dope (tire the opposition, hit in the 2nd half). While I would much rather us be heavy metal from the get go, I wont be mad if Klopp takes that take against a defensive set up. After all, most people's criticism was about Klopp's unwillingness to change tactics and play to the opposition.
That being said, I'm be hoping for them to come at us and for us to shove goals down their throats :-)

Think we will win this and probably seal the fate of Bilic, I'd stick with Klavan alongside Matip with Gomez and Moreno as WB's, Hendo, Milner & Can as the mids with Salah , the Ox and Firmino up top, might struggle with creativity without Coutinho but there is enough experience with Milner & Can and Henderson to supply through balls for our attack,

Won't be easy by any stretch , Hammers will rely on set pieces with the big fella their main target, still think tho we will blow out all their bubbles and take home the 3 pts.....

......                  Migs
     Gomez  Matip Klavan Moreno
                     Henderson
         Milner                     Emre
    Salah       Firmino     Chamberlain


Bench; Karius, Lovren Robertson, Mane, Sturridge, Solanke, Trent

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