Javier Mascherano (Barcelona)

I hear he might be back!

come home javier!

Holy Resurrected Thread, Batman!

Not happening.

I hear he might be back!

come home Javier!

On my knees people on my knees.



In my estimation the best DM in the world .  He sat in front of the back four and broke everything up.

In my book a legend that we should never have let go ...... but that could have been said about a few players at the time.

This better not be a slow news week 


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At the age of 33 playing in a Klopp system, I doubt he has the legs anymore to play DM in the EPL.

Would he come over to be a squad player, not sure.

On my knees people on my knees.



In my estimation the best DM in the world .  He sat in front of the back four and broke everything up.

In my book a legend that we should never have let go ...... but that could have been said about a few players at the time.

This better not be a slow news week 


Source of information .....  ?

We "let him go"?

He forced a move by threatening to go on strike!

Mascherano is too old. No way Klopp wants him. I'd not mind a trade Coutinho <-> 100 Mio. € plus Suarez. No idea if Suarez could actually help us though.

No thank you fu**ed us of in his prime, in shity way, he can do one

This is transfer talk, should have been a new topic in this board:

Topics have been split, and poll added for fun.

On my knees people on my knees.



In my estimation the best DM in the world .  He sat in front of the back four and broke everything up.

In my book a legend that we should never have let go ...... but that could have been said about a few players at the time.

This better not be a slow news week 


Source of information .....  ?

On my knees people on my knees.



In my estimation the best DM in the world .  He sat in front of the back four and broke everything up.

In my book a legend that we should never have let go ...... but that could have been said about a few players at the time.

This better not be a slow news week 


Source of information .....  ?

I share yer sentiments Skip but this ship sailed long ago, his legs are gone too, I'd prefer if we brought in a younger Mascherano about 10 yrs his junior with the same football brain aka Julien Weigl, he can play in midfield as well as the DM role,

I think your getting soft in yer old age mate, unlike you to get all sentimental about a former player, 😉,


....Keep sucking on the Werther's mate 😁


YNWA

Nah.

Very good  player for us in his / just before his prime. But at 33? When he hasn't played at DM for years? Also didn't like how he went about getting out of the club

Still got very fond memories of him but not for me

Been playing defense for Barca recently and would make a better option than Lovren and Klavan... and would not need to run so much as would be less involved in the press...Still he would have to be apart of a multiple CB signing... Lovren and Klavan out. Mascherano,Tarkowski, and VVD

Been playing defense for Barca recently and would make a better option than Lovren and Klavan... and would not need to run so much as would be less involved in the press...Still he would have to be apart of a multiple CB signing... Lovren and Klavan out. Mascherano,Tarkowski, and VVD

recently?

Try for the last 6-7 years, he's been playing CB.
He's also a short arse and would get eaten alive at set pieces in the Prem.
 
Clueless.

Nah.

Very good  player for us in his / just before his prime. But at 33? When he hasn't played at DM for years? Also didn't like how he went about getting out of the club

Still got very fond memories of him but not for me

Pretty much where I'm at with this.

It's about time people started remembering how some players sh*t on the club, and stop F***ing pining for them.
F**k 'em, they wanted out, and I'm fu**ed if they should come back to milk us for a last big pay cheque.

recently?

Try for the last 6-7 years, he's been playing CB.
He's also a short arse and would get eaten alive at set pieces in the Prem.
 
Clueless.

Shoo!!! Fly

I share yer sentiments Skip but this ship sailed long ago, his legs are gone too, I'd prefer if we brought in a younger Mascherano about 10 yrs his junior with the same football brain aka Julien Weigl, he can play in midfield as well as the DM role,

I think your getting soft in yer old age mate, unlike you to get all sentimental about a former player, 😉,


....Keep sucking on the Werther's mate 😁


YNWA

Yer probably right Billy mate .    Living in the past .  Still  was a great player that we missed out on his prime.

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You couldn't be nearer the truth .

Going all Hollywood in a week or two with new gnashers mate.

We binned off Gerrard at around Masch' age, what makes people think the owners would bring someone of that age in?...

On my knees people on my knees.



In my estimation the best DM in the world .  He sat in front of the back four and broke everything up.

In my book a legend that we should never have let go ...... but that could have been said about a few players at the time.

This better not be a slow news week 


Source of information .....  ?

Lionel Messi
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/lionel-messi-fears-javier-mascherano-13878044

Tim Cahill 1.78m tall (5 ft 8inches)
Michael Owen 1.73m tall (5ft 6&3/4inches)
Gianfranco Zola 1.68m tall (5ft 5 inches)
 Juninho 1.68m tall (5ft 5inches)

What do all these player have in common…? They were all short and good in the air against much larger defenders could name a few more…And yes they sometime out jumped them with the aid of a run up, but they also did it from a standing jump…

Mascherano is 1.74m tall (5ft 7inches)

But rather than hurling insult about and saying that other contributors are clueless maybe some people should ask themselves why Barcelona, with all their money, and the reputation of being a top club and a top destination for players all around the world, why they stuck with, and persevered Javier Mascherano all those years at CB, when they could afford nearly any player they wish, and that those same players queuing up around the block for a chance to wear the Barcelona strip 

As stated before he would for me have to be a part of bringing in new centre backs...

PSG are apparently interested in Javi as well:

https://talksport.com/football/paris-saint-germain-eyeing-barcelonas-javier-mascherano-171110261603

Another ''clueless'' observer''?

Tim Cahill 1.78m tall (5 ft 8inches)
Michael Owen 1.73m tall (5ft 6&3/4inches)
Gianfranco Zola 1.68m tall (5ft 5 inches)
 Juninho 1.68m tall (5ft 5inches)

What do all these player have in common…? They were all short and good in the air against much larger defenders could name a few more…And yes they sometime out jumped them with the aid of a run up, but they also did it from a standing jump…

Mascherano is 1.74m tall (5ft 7inches)

But rather than hurling insult about and saying that other contributors are clueless maybe some people should ask themselves why Barcelona, with all their money, and the reputation of being a top club and a top destination for players all around the world, why they stuck with, and persevered Javier Mascherano all those years at CB, when they could afford nearly any player they wish, and that those same players queuing up around the block for a chance to wear the Barcelona strip 

As stated before he would for me have to be a part of bringing in new centre backs...

Not a single one of those players was good in the air from a standing jump.
Not one.
They were opportunistic predators who happened to have the knack of nipping in front of a defender, and finding space in the box.

You didn't even know Masch played at CB for Barca all those years, but now you're trying to give it billy big bollocks having looked up short arse players and Masch on wiki.

It really is hilarious.

Look, if you don't know something, just say so; plenty of people who know football will be glad to help, but this constantly trying to be "controversial" and making silly claims about players just shows your lack of knowledge.
Or maybe you just like trolling and trying to get a rise.

Have you actually seen Barca play?
Have you seen how hard they work to avoid giving away corners and set pieces?
Have you seen how well they keep the ball high up the field?
Masch plays CB because of his pace, and ability to cut out a pass, not because he's "good in the air", because he isn't.
It's that simple.

Not a single one of those players was good in the air from a standing jump.
Not one.
They were opportunistic predators who happened to have the knack of nipping in front of a defender, and finding space in the box.

You didn't even know Masch played at CB for Barca all those years, but now you're trying to give it billy big bollocks having looked up short arse players and Masch on wiki.

It really is hilarious.

Look, if you don't know something, just say so; plenty of people who know football will be glad to help, but this constantly trying to be "controversial" and making silly claims about players just shows your lack of knowledge.
Or maybe you just like trolling and trying to get a rise.

Have you actually seen Barca play?
Have you seen how hard they work to avoid giving away corners and set pieces?
Have you seen how well they keep the ball high up the field?
Masch plays CB because of his pace, and ability to cut out a pass, not because he's "good in the air", because he isn't.
It's that simple.

How often in a game are u heading from a standing jump?

How often in a game are u heading from a standing jump?

I wasn't the one saying those players are good from a standing jump.
I was in fact, saying that what the other fella said about standing jumps was bollocks.

Not a single one of those players was good in the air from a standing jump.
Not one.

Tim Cahill scored many a goal that way

They were opportunistic predators who happened to have the knack of nipping in front of a defender, and finding space in the box.

what are you implying... that a defender would not enploy the same tactics while defending, that they would remain stationary  while defending...? Remember Defenders often have a run at the ball the same way attackers do

You didn't even know Masch played at CB for Barca all those years, but now you're trying to give it billy big bollocks having looked up short arse players and Masch on wiki.

You can't help yourself can you....Hurling insults, Trying to pretend your knowledge is far superior to everyone else ...May i remind you I was not the one claiming Klopp had Sturridge bulk up to protect him from injury
It really is hilarious.

Look, if you don't know something, just say so; plenty of people who know football will be glad to help, but this constantly trying to be "controversial" and making silly claims about players just shows your lack of knowledge.
Or maybe you just like trolling and trying to get a rise.

Trolling ... Remind everyone; and remember they,(if they wish to do so) can look it up... Who is it who seeks me out and tries to bait me...?

As a rule I tend to ignore you... 

Have you actually seen Barca play?

Many a time

Have you seen how hard they work to avoid giving away corners and set pieces?

But I believe the reason they work so hard not to give away corners it that if you give another team a corner,or aset piece then no matter how good your team are at defending there is always a possibility they will score

Have you seen how well they keep the ball high up the field?

Beside that been the way that Barca has played for many a year,Maybe If they have the ball in their opponents half they (a) control the game and (b) there is less chance of their opponents scoring...

I thought that even you would understand that

Masch plays CB because of his pace, and ability to cut out a pass, not because he's "good in the air", because he isn't.
It's that simple.

Well as i stated before Barca seem to still rate him If not they have the money and pulling power to replace him

How often in a game are u heading from a standing jump?

Point that I was making to him was that you see players of all heights winning and losing headers some from standing jumps and some from running jumps... Defending corners and set pieces are more about marking and reading/anticipating the flight of the ball something that mascherano has done his whole career

I’d 100% take him back. He’s the kind of player that could keep going until he was 37/8.

Quality.

Tim Cahill scored many a goal that way

what are you implying... that a defender would not enploy the same tactics while defending, that they would remain stationary  while defending...? Remember Defenders often have a run at the ball the same way attackers do

You can't help yourself can you....Hurling insults, Trying to pretend your knowledge is far superior to everyone else ...May i remind you I was not the one claiming Klopp had Sturridge bulk up to protect him from injury
It really is hilarious.

Trolling ... Remind everyone; and remember they,(if they wish to do so) can look it up... Who is it who seeks me out and tries to bait me...?

As a rule I tend to ignore you... 
Many a time

But I believe the reason they work so hard not to give away corners it that if you give another team a corner,or aset piece then no matter how good your team are at defending there is always a possibility they will score

Beside that been the way that Barca has played for many a year,Maybe If they have the ball in their opponents half they (a) control the game and (b) there is less chance of their opponents scoring...

I thought that even you would understand that

Well as i stated before Barca seem to still rate him If not they have the money and pulling power to replace him

What a load of sh*t.

Fact is, you got it wrong yet again and are trying to cover it up yet again by giving it billy big bollocks to try and deflect from yet another basic error.

It's really very tiresome, the way you try to be controversial when you go fishing for pluses, and it's also pretty funny that this is your reaction every time you get something basic wrong.

And btw, Cahill didn't score "many a goal" from a standing jump.
His M.O. at which he was pretty good, was a late run and/or nipping in front of the defender.

Utterly, utterly clueless, but tries to give it large after reading a bit of wiki. 

This is good in the air, his head is maybe 9/10 feet from the ground when he meets this cross.


This is also good in the air (one of the best IMO, even if he was a dirty c**t and a blue)


Top photo, top player


Here's an example of a player who was more brave than actually good in the air


One of the best I've seen in the air


Here's Masch in one of the few photos of him "competing" in the air.
Ronaldo is 8 inches taller (thereabouts) but is a good 18 inches higher


Fact; Masch would get F***ing mullered playing CB in the prem.
He's a fine player with many good qualities, but despite what some clueless cockwombles would have us believe, aerial ability is not one of the qualities he has.

What a load of sh*t.

Fact is, you got it wrong yet again and are trying to cover it up yet again by giving it billy big bollocks to try and deflect from yet another basic error.

It's really very tiresome, the way you try to be controversial when you go fishing for pluses, and it's also pretty funny that this is your reaction every time you get something basic wrong.

And btw, Cahill didn't score "many a goal" from a standing jump.
His M.O. at which he was pretty good, was a late run and/or nipping in front of the defender.

Utterly, utterly clueless, but tries to give it large after reading a bit of wiki. 

There It Is... The old "the way you try to be controversial when you go fishing for pluses"


You seem to be obsessed with pluses

And as for the whole "and it's also pretty funny that this is your reaction every time you get something basic wrong." thing, you remind me of a bloke called Kelvin... He is never wrong about anything.... and it seems neither are you... wasted to much time with you. If you want to take that as you winning the argument feel free and give yourself a pat on the back..Me i am happy to let you believe that as I don't need to look like a winner in front of anyone I am happy in my own skin...You can believe what you wish and I will too...
 

There It Is... The old "the way you try to be controversial when you go fishing for pluses"


You seem to be obsessed with pluses

And as for the whole "and it's also pretty funny that this is your reaction every time you get something basic wrong." thing, you remind me of a bloke called Kelvin... He is never wrong about anything.... and it seems neither are you... wasted to much time with you. If you want to take that as you winning the argument feel free and give yourself a pat on the back..Me i am happy to let you believe that as I don't need to look like a winner in front of anyone I am happy in my own skin...You can believe what you wish and I will too...
 

OK precious, I know you want a "safe place" where the big bad man won't question your bullshit, and you can hide behind "it's my opinion", but you're doing yourself no favours here.

How many of the players above could you name straight away.
One?

Look, if you want to talk about football, rather than do the internet thing and give it billy big bollocks without being able to back it up, I'm happy to help.

I can go through the club history, what things mean, old players, old managers, whatever you want.
Others can go through chants and terrace banter better than I can, and I'm sure they'd be happy to help as well.

It's your choice.
Learn about the club, players, managers, lore, tradition and all the rest.
Or continue with what you're doing.

I'd have him back for even one season.  Would teach a few people what a real destroyer is all about.

All is forgiven.

(Another Werthers Billy)

I won't have him back not because of past actions but because he is pasted his best.

I'd have him back for even one season.  Would teach a few people what a real destroyer is all about.

All is forgiven.

Even to play 20 games - his very presence would be an education to the kids........

Even to play 20 games - his very presence would be an education to the kids........

I disagree totally. He lost everything, just his mind is left. He won't cope with the pace of the Premier league.

I disagree totally. He lost everything, just his mind is left. He won't cope with the pace of the Premier league.

Fair enough Clint.....opinions and all that

Fair enough Clint.....opinions and all that

If we but 2 CB plus him, I would be happy to have him to back-up our players but as a first-teamer.

Going to china anyway

I'd have him back for even one season.  Would teach a few people what a real destroyer is all about.

All is forgiven.

(Another Werthers Billy)

Dunno mate, I'm thinking that ship has sailed , I'd rather we get someone younger who'll give us a few years service, i like Weigl he'd be ideal, fits in with the philosophy , probably have to overspend to get him but when you add a VVD a top class keeper, Keita who's imminent, Lemar (possible) and a striker (PEA) not ruling that one out either, then it will most definitely be worth it.

Keeping suckin the Werthers bud 🤣

YNWA

Going to china anyway

 

At least he'll get to claim he's a giant of the game out there.