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      Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45

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      Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Dec 04, 2017 07:58:13 am
      A draw will be enough for us but Spartak need to win which should make it an exciting game.
      Just like ourselves they seem to have hit a bit of form winning the last 4 and are the top scorers in the Russian league, however we are a better team and playing at Anfield we will beat these with our fire power up front.

      I expect Mane to come back in and wouldn't be surprised to see Sturridge starting with Jurgens new philosophy of rotation and the game against the Bitters on the weekend.

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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #1: Dec 04, 2017 08:39:35 am
      Go full strength for this and worry about the bitters after

      Karius
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      Klavan
      Lovren
      Moreno

      Heno
      Gini
      Coutinho

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      Bobby
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #2: Dec 04, 2017 08:39:48 am
      SM need to win so let's get all our flyers on to hit them hard on the counter and let's not settle for a draw here, we can beat these guys handily if we set up right
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #3: Dec 04, 2017 08:49:39 am
      This result is probably more important even than the derby.   Lose here and all the hard work in this competition counts for nothing. 

      The fact these can win the group though shows that they are no mugs and we need to select a strong side.
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #4: Dec 04, 2017 09:03:14 am
      Let's be f**king real... Spartak pose a threat and Everton don't. They're sh*t.

      Strongest XI for this one and can afford to rest a body or two in the derby.
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      Reply #5: Dec 04, 2017 09:59:06 am
      Let's be f**king real... Spartak pose a threat and Everton don't. They're sh*t.

      Strongest XI for this one and can afford to rest a body or two in the derby.

      And if that backfires i will be avoiding this place like the plague
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #6: Dec 04, 2017 10:28:46 am
      Have to go strongest 11 here and if we do in the form we're in we should win tbe game.
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #7: Dec 04, 2017 10:35:36 am
      Have to go strongest 11 here and if we do in the form we're in we should win tbe game.

      Agreed about winning the game but Jürgen felt pretty concerned about burnout for a few of our lads. Don't think the team selection is quite as easy as best XI mate judging by that.

      Our front lads are starting to really rack up the minutes, especially Bobby and Salah, now I can see them starting for sure but finding a time to give them a rest may prove a little tricky as is always the case in December.
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #8: Dec 04, 2017 10:40:49 am
      Sure go with 3 at the back again.
      Just maybe leave Gini in midfield this time.

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      Or drop him altogether and go 4-2-3-1.

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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #9: Dec 04, 2017 10:46:03 am
      Sure go with 3 at the back again.
      Just maybe leave Gini in midfield this time.

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      Or drop him altogether and go 4-2-3-1.

      NB: Team no longer available

      See where you’re coming from Racer - second more likely in my mind.

      I just can’t see him opting to keep Cou on the bench for this one. I think the rotation (injury aside) has been about getting ready for Wednesday.
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #10: Dec 04, 2017 10:50:02 am
      See where you’re coming from Racer - second more likely in my mind.

      I just can’t see him opting to keep Cou on the bench for this one. I think the rotation (injury aside) has been about getting ready for Wednesday.

      I'd prefer the 2nd formation myself.
      Get the "Big 4" on the pitch and then bring on Alex, Sturridge or Solanke in the 2nd half to keep the attack fresh.
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #11: Dec 04, 2017 10:56:47 am
      I'd prefer the 2nd formation myself.
      Get the "Big 4" on the pitch and then bring on Alex, Sturridge or Solanke in the 2nd half to keep the attack fresh.

      Agreed.

      Get the job done.

      Then hope the collective at the club stop f**king about and address the squad depth at the back in Jan.
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #12: Dec 04, 2017 11:55:35 am
      Go full strength for this and worry about the bitters after

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      Moreno

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      Coutinho

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      Bobby
      Mame

      I have always believed that you start a game at full strength and once you are two or three goals a head you then start to rest players... Players get injured by over stretching/exerting which can happen with more frequency when you are forced to chase a game...

      Totally agree start at full strength
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #13: Dec 04, 2017 12:37:45 pm
      I agree, this is important, bring the best we have. I also hope we play to win. Can u imagine a tie and it's 90.+3 min. and Spartak gets a corner?  :o :o :o I would not want that kind of thrill.
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #14: Dec 04, 2017 01:14:54 pm
      I agree, this is important, bring the best we have. I also hope we play to win. Can u imagine a tie and it's 90.+3 min. and Spartak gets a corner?  :o :o :o I would not want that kind of thrill.

      The sort of thrill that ends with a change of boxer shorts
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #15: Dec 04, 2017 01:19:46 pm
      I have always believed that you start a game at full strength and once you are two or three goals a head you then start to rest players... Players get injured by over stretching/exerting which can happen with more frequency when you are forced to chase a game...

      Totally agree start at full strength

      Its a home game, bomb them right from the start, they won't know what hit them.  :aaliverpool2xt1: :aaliverpool2xt1: :aaliverpool2xt1:

      I agree, this is important, bring the best we have. I also hope we play to win. Can u imagine a tie and it's 90.+3 min. and Spartak gets a corner?  :o :o :o I would not want that kind of thrill.

      The sort of thrill that ends with a change of boxer shorts

      If we can't beat them then we are not good enough to be in the knock out round. coyr

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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #16: Dec 04, 2017 02:01:25 pm
      We would have to lose this game by 4 goals to not go through to the next round so I'm not really that worried about it. I'd play a strong defence, plus defensive midfield and give some of the youngsters/fringe forwards some game time and have the established players on the bench if we need them.

      My main focus is on Everton who seem to have found a bit of form after Fat Sam came in.
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #17: Dec 04, 2017 02:10:08 pm
      We would have to lose this game by 4 goals to not go through to the next round so I'm not really that worried about it. I'd play a strong defence, plus defensive midfield and give some of the youngsters/fringe forwards some game time and have the established players on the bench if we need them.

      My main focus is on Everton who seem to have found a bit of form after Fat Sam came in.

      Just checked, you are right mate.

      we'll still go through like you mention above.
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #18: Dec 04, 2017 02:26:17 pm
      We would have to lose this game by 4 goals to not go through to the next round so I'm not really that worried about it. I'd play a strong defence, plus defensive midfield and give some of the youngsters/fringe forwards some game time and have the established players on the bench if we need them.

      My main focus is on Everton who seem to have found a bit of form after Fat Sam came in.

      Nope, it comes down to head to head rather than goal difference so Spartak would finish ahead of us if they win.  Full strength and three points please.
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #19: Dec 04, 2017 02:35:44 pm
      Get business done early, then get guys off when we have the game tucked away....

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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #20: Dec 04, 2017 02:44:00 pm
      Nope, it comes down to head to head rather than goal difference so Spartak would finish ahead of us if they win.  Full strength and three points please.

      Dammit you are right:

      Tiebreakers
      Teams are ranked according to points (3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw, 0 points for a loss), and if tied on points, the following tiebreaking criteria are applied, in the order given, to determine the rankings (Regulations Articles 17.01):[2]

      - Points in head-to-head matches among tied teams;
      - Goal difference in head-to-head matches among tied teams;
      - Goals scored in head-to-head matches among tied teams;
      - Away goals scored in head-to-head matches among tied teams;
      - If more than two teams are tied, and after applying all head-to-head criteria above, a subset of teams are still tied, all head-to-head criteria above are reapplied exclusively to this subset of teams;
      - Goal difference in all group matches;
      - Goals scored in all group matches;
      - Away goals scored in all group matches;
      - Wins in all group matches;
      - Away wins in all group matches;
      - Disciplinary points (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion for two yellow cards in one match = 3 points);
      - UEFA club coefficient.


      OK in that case full strength team maximum effort and no let up until the final whistle.
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #21: Dec 04, 2017 02:44:23 pm
      Get business done early, then get guys off when we have the game tucked away....

      NB: Team no longer available


      Like being 3-0 up ;-)
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #22: Dec 04, 2017 02:45:27 pm
      Perform like we did on Saturday, everything should be OK ! Keep banging the goals in thick and fast.
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #23: Dec 04, 2017 02:46:35 pm
      I say put our best team against them and go guns blazing. Then we can think about bitters after we have gone through.
      too much on the line to gamble.
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #24: Dec 04, 2017 04:05:36 pm
      I just look at this at a very simply level.

      If we don’t win then we don’t deserve to go through
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #25: Dec 04, 2017 08:19:58 pm
      Group E: Maribor (2) v Sevilla (8 ), Liverpool (9) v Spartak Moskva (6)

      Liverpool will qualify with a draw, and will clinch first place with a win, or a draw if Sevilla fail to win. If Liverpool lose they are out unless Sevilla are also defeated (as Liverpool would be below Spartak in a two-way head-to-head or would be third in a three-way head-to-head on nine points).

      Sevilla will qualify with a draw, or if Spartak fail to win. Sevilla clinch first place if they win and Liverpool do not.

      Spartak would be through with a win or third with any other result. If Spartak win they will finish top unless Sevilla also win.
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #26: Dec 04, 2017 10:04:01 pm
      Go full strength for this and worry about the bitters after

      Karius
      Gomez
      Klavan
      Lovren
      Moreno

      Heno
      Gini
      Coutinho

      Salah
      Bobby
      Mame



      I'd be happy with this X1 although I'd be tempted to swap Henderson for Can, Emre offers more of a threat at set pieces  and can defend better too, we have to fir the throat  from the get go and put it to bed early, the longer it goes on the more nervy we will become and we all know what can happen if it gets to sqeaky arse time !!


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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #27: Dec 04, 2017 11:40:14 pm
      I'd go 3-4-3 and setup to hit them on the counter.  I'd also leave Mo on the bench to come on if needed. 

      Karius
      Gomez - Lovren - Can
      Chambo - Gini - Hendo - Moreno
      Mane - Bobby - Coutinho

      Mo off the bench if needed, but I doubt he will be required. 
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #28: Dec 05, 2017 01:36:29 am
      Let's just f**king Win this one... no dramas please.
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      Re: Pre match : Liverpool v Spartak Moscow : 6th Dec 19.45
      Reply #29: Dec 05, 2017 06:44:58 am
      Let's just f**king Win this one... no dramas please.

      We really can't afford not to win this one Ian.An early goal is required to settle the nerves then go and thrash them.

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