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      Virgil van Dijk Player Thread

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      Re: Virgil van Dijk Player Thread
      Reply #1050: Sep 23, 2019 09:03:08 pm
      Well how Messi beat him to FIFA player of the Year. Joke
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      Reply #1051: Sep 23, 2019 09:08:44 pm
      Well how Messi beat him to FIFA player of the Year. Joke

      Ah come on now. We're better than that.

      To congratulate Lionel Messi here he is at the height of his game.

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      Reply #1052: Sep 23, 2019 09:10:46 pm
      Absolute bollocks Messi pipped Virgil, just like the inclusion of Marcelo, Modric and Ramos in the world 11 - they still need to keep their politicians at Barca and Madrid happy.
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      Reply #1053: Sep 23, 2019 09:22:06 pm
      Absolute joke, corruption at it's best, this is decided over a year not your career! No wonder Ronaldo wasn't present
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      Reply #1054: Sep 23, 2019 09:23:40 pm
      Bunch of cu*ts - f**k em
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      Reply #1055: Sep 23, 2019 09:27:25 pm
      Ah come on now. We're better than that.

      To congratulate Lionel Messi here he is at the height of his game.



      Don't care one bit about these personal awards. Give them to the ball boy for all i care, but i deeply regret deleting the recording of the Barcelona game. A masterful performance worth seeing again over time.
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      Re: Virgil van Dijk Player Thread
      Reply #1056: Sep 23, 2019 09:30:31 pm
      Anyway well done VVD, best defender the club has had for many years !
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      Re: Virgil van Dijk Player Thread
      Reply #1057: Sep 23, 2019 09:34:55 pm
      Well how Messi beat him to FIFA player of the Year. Joke

      Something to do with 51 goals last year I imagine
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      Reply #1058: Sep 23, 2019 09:41:09 pm
      Something to do with 51 goals last year I imagine

      Didn't get one at Anfield to get them through ha ha !
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      Reply #1059: Sep 23, 2019 09:41:29 pm
      Both of them had fantastic seasons in fairness.

      Don't think Virgil will be that bothered so neither should we.
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      Reply #1060: Sep 23, 2019 09:47:15 pm
      Didn't get one at Anfield to get them through ha ha !

      True, look i wanted big virg to win but messi was pretty bloody amazing too
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      Reply #1061: Sep 23, 2019 10:00:35 pm
      True, look i wanted big virg to win but messi was pretty bloody amazing too

      One good thing coming out of Messi winning is the Ronaldo fanboys must be melting down.
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      Reply #1062: Sep 23, 2019 11:45:17 pm
      Should have been Virgil but at least we have the best manager and goalie. In truth these awards are complete bollocks, as much as I love Klopp how you can overlook Pep for best manager is bizarre.
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      Reply #1063: Sep 23, 2019 11:49:06 pm
      Something to do with 51 goals last year I imagine

      Probably a large part of that, but him and Ronaldo hit them figures and then some every season but Modric won it last year. It's basically an award for Madrid and Barca, dating back to since Zidane won it whilst at Juve back in 2000, only twice has a team other than Madrid or Barca had a player win it; Kaka in 07 at Milan and Ronaldo in 08 at the Mancs.

      I know in that time frame, 07/08 onwards, Messi and Ronaldo have dominated everything in football and the majority of the time they have deserved to win it, but there's also been times they've wrongly won it over the likes of Ribery, Sneijder, Iniesta and now Virgil.

      But yeah it's basically a top scorer award more often that not. Which the likes of Messi will always win, of course Virgil can't hit them numbers, but then Messi wouldn't be able to hit the numbers and perform to the level Virgil does in defence which is something they don't seem to take into account.

      Messi and Ronaldo are arguably the two greatest players of all time, but this is an award based on performances over a season, not a career and there's been times they haven't been the best over a season. Then they use the narrative of whoever wins the CL will likely win it (when either Madrid or Barca are in the final), if it's not that then they will often try and fit the narrative to whoever wins or is the closest to winning an international tournament (Ronaldo winning it for being a cheerleader in the Euro 2016 final).

      It's great when someone from us does get the recognition they deserve but the fact Virgil has missed out on this and not a single City player made the world 11, whilst Marcelo, Ramos and Modric did just says it all really. They will recognise the accomplishments of some but when it comes down to the world 11 or up against Messi/Ronaldo, it's all politics and a popularity contest.

      Bit of a drawn out post and seems like bit of a rant, apologies that it probably reads that way.
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      Reply #1064: Sep 24, 2019 12:59:28 am
      What a crock of sh*t.

      Well VVD is now going to have to settle for the Balon D'Or  :angel: :angel: :angel:
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      Reply #1065: Sep 24, 2019 03:20:47 am
      True, look i wanted big virg to win but messi was pretty bloody amazing too

      Truth. Scored like 54 goals in 56 matches, top scorer in Champions League and won La Liga. Thing is he's done it for so many years now those numbers become numbing, but while you can argue Virgil was/is deserving, you can't say Messi isn't.

      Made up for Ali and Klopp though.
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      Reply #1066: Sep 24, 2019 03:24:40 am
      Probably a large part of that, but him and Ronaldo hit them figures and then some every season but Modric won it last year. It's basically an award for Madrid and Barca, dating back to since Zidane won it whilst at Juve back in 2000, only twice has a team other than Madrid or Barca had a player win it; Kaka in 07 at Milan and Ronaldo in 08 at the Mancs.

      I know in that time frame, 07/08 onwards, Messi and Ronaldo have dominated everything in football and the majority of the time they have deserved to win it, but there's also been times they've wrongly won it over the likes of Ribery, Sneijder, Iniesta and now Virgil.

      But yeah it's basically a top scorer award more often that not. Which the likes of Messi will always win, of course Virgil can't hit them numbers, but then Messi wouldn't be able to hit the numbers and perform to the level Virgil does in defence which is something they don't seem to take into account.

      Messi and Ronaldo are arguably the two greatest players of all time, but this is an award based on performances over a season, not a career and there's been times they haven't been the best over a season. Then they use the narrative of whoever wins the CL will likely win it (when either Madrid or Barca are in the final), if it's not that then they will often try and fit the narrative to whoever wins or is the closest to winning an international tournament (Ronaldo winning it for being a cheerleader in the Euro 2016 final).

      It's great when someone from us does get the recognition they deserve but the fact Virgil has missed out on this and not a single City player made the world 11, whilst Marcelo, Ramos and Modric did just says it all really. They will recognise the accomplishments of some but when it comes down to the world 11 or up against Messi/Ronaldo, it's all politics and a popularity contest.

      Bit of a drawn out post and seems like bit of a rant, apologies that it probably reads that way.

      A panel of "fans from all over the world" were part of the electorate for this (at least for the world 11 part). Wouldn't surprise me if some agents, FIFA officials and corporate types were part of that. Not to discredit the award (especially since Jürgen and Ali won), but it's nothing like winning a team trophy in terms of validation. Hopefully everyone had a nice evening out, a safe trip home and will be refreshed for this weekend's resumption of a title campaign.
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      Reply #1067: Sep 24, 2019 03:26:15 am
      Should have been Virgil but at least we have the best manager and goalie. In truth these awards are complete bollocks, as much as I love Klopp how you can overlook Pep for best manager is bizarre.

      Because our manager is better. He knows not to make Salah do dribbling practice in the League Cup.
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      Reply #1068: Sep 24, 2019 03:54:11 am
      Modric, Marcelo and Ramos in the world 11 says all you need to know about these awards.

      They had a bloody awful season but can’t have the Spanish clubs ego’s being hit now can we.
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      Reply #1069: Sep 24, 2019 07:37:02 am
      For a while I didn’t really want him to win the award because it makes him more of a target for Barca or Madrid come their presidential elections and galactic time. But I am actually disappointed for him and it’s a joke that he didn’t get it. Messi has a cracking season but his team walked the league in a two horse race against a lame horse. The bias towards La Liga for this award has been ridiculous. As good as both players have performed over the years it has become a farce. Totally blinkered view. Take 2013-14. Did anyone in world football really play better than Luis Suarez that season?
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      Re: Virgil van Dijk Player Thread
      Reply #1070: Sep 24, 2019 05:41:35 pm
      https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/23/absolute-joke-paul-merson-fumes-lionel-messi-winning-player-year-virgil-van-dijk-10796079/




      FFS   !!!

      Merson is coming out on Virgil's side.

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      Paul Merson was deeply unhappy with the decision to award the Fifa Men’s Player of the Year prize to Lionel Messi and believes it’s ‘an absolute joke’ that Virgil van Dijk wasn’t honoured in Milan on Monday night.

      Messi, who scored 51 goals in 50 games last season, pipped Van Dijk and great rival Cristiano Ronaldo to the prestigious men’s prize to replace Luka Modric as the official best player on the planet. Van Dijk was the favourite to scoop the award after playing an integral role in Liverpool’s run to the Champions League title, while he also reached the Nations League final with the Netherlands. Lionel Messi was handed the top prize 
      Merson was astonished that he was overlooked for the top prize on a night where his manager Jürgen Klopp was hailed as the world’s best manager.
      Asked if Messi deserved the award, Merson replied: ‘No. No. It’s a joke. Sorry, it’s a joke. ‘He’s just done what he’s done every season. He hasn’t taken them to another level. He didn’t take them to win the Champions League. That’s what Barcelona are all about. ‘How many does he get against Alaves? You win it because you’ve done something special.

      Van Dijk has done something special. They’ve won the Champions League, Liverpool. ‘That’s what Barcelona wanted to win. If you asked Barcelona what do you want to win the league or the Champions League? They’d’ve gone the Champions League.

      ‘For me it’s an absolute joke, that. An absolute joke. Paul Merson wasn’t impressed
      ‘You know why he’s won that?
      Because that started in 2016, Ronaldo won it the first two years and then Modric won it last year. So they’ve got to give Messi it.

      ‘What (Ed: The f**k) does Van Dijk have to do? He’s taken Holland to the final of the European thing… I just can’t. He took them to another level. ‘Messi has not taken Barcelona to another level last year. He never took them to another level, he’s just done what he does all the time.

      Van Dijk took this Liverpool team to an absolute other level. ‘If the coach is getting the coach of the year, how is the player not getting the best player?’

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      Next year it will be by order of the Peaky F***ing Blinders ! The Red Right Hand.

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      Reply #1071: Sep 24, 2019 06:45:10 pm
      Should have been Virgil but at least we have the best manager and goalie. In truth these awards are complete bollocks, as much as I love Klopp how you can overlook Pep for best manager is bizarre.

      Could be because Jürgen coaches and Pep either purchases or whinges
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      Reply #1072: Sep 25, 2019 11:40:18 am
      Award or no award, all I know is if I’m assembling a team from scratch, I’m probably picking Virgil first and if I miss out on Messi, oh well, there’s other goal scorers that I can pick, but there ain’t no other defenders like Big Virg. That speaks volumes to me. Keep your award you diving, imaginary card waiving troll.
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      Reply #1073: Nov 12, 2019 02:57:17 pm
      🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

      https://youtu.be/RFRp90zy_Lc
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      Re: Virgil van Dijk Player Thread
      Reply #1074: Nov 12, 2019 04:10:01 pm
      For a while I didn’t really want him to win the award because it makes him more of a target for Barca or Madrid come their presidential elections and galactic time. But I am actually disappointed for him and it’s a joke that he didn’t get it. Messi has a cracking season but his team walked the league in a two horse race against a lame horse. The bias towards La Liga for this award has been ridiculous. As good as both players have performed over the years it has become a farce. Totally blinkered view. Take 2013-14. Did anyone in world football really play better than Luis Suarez that season?

      VVD would be doing himself no favours, being lured to any other club. He is already playing for the top club in Europe. Although I agree he certainly deserves the award, without any doubt.

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