Arguably yes if you're asking me. You still have to win things though to be regarded the best in his position. I don't think he'll have long to wait. He's world class.
See that’s something I don’t agree with, I don’t think a player does have to win things to be regarded the best. Going to use a quick example; say Messi played for Getafe, a team that isn’t going to win anything, and he still performed to the level he has done with Barca, it wouldn’t make him any less of a player or not be the best anymore just because he hasn’t won anything.
Another quick example; Suarez was probably the best player in the Premier League in his final 2 seasons with us, but although we didn’t win the league it doesn’t mean he wasn’t the best. It’s like saying Van Dijk can’t be the best because he hasn’t won anything, but what does it actually matter? Wigan won the FA Cup, Leicester won the league but none of their players are better than Van Dijk, Salah, Kane or anyone, but if the tagline of “he needs to win silverware to be considered the best” is used then it’s essentially saying Wes Morgan is better than Van Dijk.
To win things you need luck and to be the best as a team. Say us and City win our last 8 games, we’d have amassed a massive 97 points, lost 1 game, conceded less goals and still not won the league by the matter of a point or two...so that suddenly means Van Dijk can’t be the best because he hasn’t won anything? A team getting 97 points etc and not winning the league, surely that’s unheard of?!
Or you can be in the situation of Salah for example; many will say he wasn’t the best player last year because he didn’t win a trophy, well that’s down to Karius that. We could get to the final again this year but if Alisson costs us the game in the last minute then does that mean Van Dijk was a minute away from being the best defender around?
So yeah, that’s why I don’t think you have to win things to be the best. Surely by performing better than anyone else in that position makes you the best, which is something Van Dijk has done and you don’t need a trophy to tell us that, you just need to watch football to know it.
With Van Dijk he doesn’t get dribbled past, he doesn’t get beaten in the air, he doesn’t get outmuscled, he doesn’t get out paced, he plays passes like a top class playmaker, he can score goals and he’s a leader. If we don’t win anything with him in the team then I don’t think it takes anything away from him apart from what the level of performances he puts in deserve.
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