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      Re: The goalkeeper situation
      Reply #207: Jan 19, 2018 06:00:06 pm
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      Re: The goalkeeper situation
      Reply #209: Jan 19, 2018 06:29:09 pm
      Neither Karius or Mignolet are good enough for this club, the fact they've been swapping with each other even since the German arrived last summer proves that neither can hold down the number one shirt.

      Karius was given a go, once he returned from injury, last season and after a run of some embarrassing mistakes he lost his place and didn't start another Premier League game from the 11th December onwards. Mignolet actually did alright when he came back into the side and it was pointed out by Jamie Carragher on numerous occassions that the performances from the Belgian may blind the club into thinking we didn't need a new keeper in the summer. Mignolet then started as number one for the League and Karius for Europe going into this season where both have made errors on a regular basis. Not every error leads to a goal, even for keepers. Errors include flapping at crosses, making the wrong decision with the ball at their feet, rushing out and getting nowhere near it etc etc.

      And now we're back at square one where one keeper has made too many mistakes and forced the manager's hand into making another change. So Karius is back in favour and in his first League outing in over a month, he makes another mistake. Now if he makes more mistakes in the upcoming games against Swansea and Huddersfield (and West Brom, if he's still our Cup keeper) does Klopp have to change it again for the month of February?

      For me, we need to address the situation now before it's too late. The window is open, bring in a world class keeper now - whoever that may be (I'm not gonna name names because I don't know half the people who are being banded around on these boards). Even if that keeper is inelgible for the Champions League, get them in now because they will be available for the League and given the likelihood of mistakes from our keepers, top four is not a guarantee just yet meaning come the summer we might not have Champions League football to offer these keepers, so get a keeper in who you know will do the job to ensure we are in the top four and back in the Champions League next year.
      that's exactly how I feel about it.
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      Re: The goalkeeper situation
      Reply #210: Jan 19, 2018 06:57:29 pm
      Bit of a joke this from Klopp.

      How can he go about announcing his #1 keeper when it's blatantly obvious he doesn't have a clue who his #1 keeper is.

      So now we are back to Karius, and in his 1st game he concedes 3 goals, with the 1st being a very poor effort to save.

      Mignolet in the meantime is quite rightly looking for another club. Nice one! What happens now when Karius messes up? He's proven he's no better than Mignolet and should have continued as the #2 goalkeeper. Are we going to rely on Ward in near future?
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      Re: The goalkeeper situation
      Reply #211: Jan 19, 2018 07:00:13 pm
      Bit of a joke this from Klopp.

      How can he go about announcing his #1 keeper when it's blatantly obvious he doesn't have a clue who his #1 keeper is.

      So now we are back to Karius, and in his 1st game he concedes 3 goals, with the 1st being a very poor effort to save.

      Mignolet in the meantime is quite rightly looking for another club. Nice one! What happens now when Karius messes up? He's proven he's no better than Mignolet and should have continued as the #2 goalkeeper. Are we going to rely on Ward in near future?

      Might rectify the situation in the summer and buy a new keeper. We've been waiting a while for a defender then we get VVD.

      Still F***ing buzzing off the result last weekend while some of you miserable bas**rds are still crying about keepers and getting rid of Klopp.

      Weirdos!!
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      Re: The goalkeeper situation
      Reply #212: Jan 19, 2018 07:31:13 pm
      Bit of a joke this from Klopp.

      How can he go about announcing his #1 keeper when it's blatantly obvious he doesn't have a clue who his #1 keeper is.

      So now we are back to Karius, and in his 1st game he concedes 3 goals, with the 1st being a very poor effort to save.

      Mignolet in the meantime is quite rightly looking for another club. Nice one! What happens now when Karius messes up? He's proven he's no better than Mignolet and should have continued as the #2 goalkeeper. Are we going to rely on Ward in near future?

      Well he does know who it is, it's Karius. Clear to me he has been easing Karius in this season where he can until VVD came to take a bit of pressure off the keeper.

      Maybe Karius isn't good enough, I personally don't think he's been given a consistent chance to show that yet and his confidence must be shot. But to continue with that clown Mignolet, who has had 200+ games where he has made some absolute shockers sends out the completely wrong message.

      Karius won't be holding the ball for too long and giving away free kicks in our box, I can guarantee that much.
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      Re: The goalkeeper situation
      Reply #213: Jan 19, 2018 07:39:00 pm
      Bit of a joke this from Klopp.

      How can he go about announcing his #1 keeper when it's blatantly obvious he doesn't have a clue who his #1 keeper is.

      So now we are back to Karius, and in his 1st game he concedes 3 goals, with the 1st being a very poor effort to save.

      Mignolet in the meantime is quite rightly looking for another club. Nice one! What happens now when Karius messes up? He's proven he's no better than Mignolet and should have continued as the #2 goalkeeper. Are we going to rely on Ward in near future?
      It is like being in a Formula 1 race, realizing the Skoda is too slow and swapping for a Corsa.
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      Reply #214: Jan 19, 2018 07:40:31 pm
      Might rectify the situation in the summer and buy a new keeper. We've been waiting a while for a defender then we get VVD.

      Still f**king buzzing off the result last weekend while some of you miserable bas**rds are still crying about keepers and getting rid of Klopp.

      Weirdos!!
      Might rectify it? I'd hope so, I would like trophies.
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      Reply #215: Jan 19, 2018 07:46:44 pm
      To me this is karius's golden ticket, he simply has to step up and show Jürgen he's the no 1 and prove thatJurgen has made the right call,
      No pressure then la !

      The statement sent out by the gaffer is simple, come the summer I'll be bringing in a new Keeper, you have until May to prove your worth,

      Not before time too,

      Personally i think there is a player in there somewhere, so maybe a run of games will bring the best out of him, time will obviously tell, however i still don't he's ever going to be thee no1 for the long term, hence Jürgen bringing in a keeper who will be.


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      Reply #216: Jan 19, 2018 07:57:39 pm
      Hopefully can be our De Gea, I remember him struggling for a while before he settled in, now look at him...
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      Reply #217: Jan 19, 2018 08:15:36 pm
      Bit of a joke this from Klopp.

      How can he go about announcing his #1 keeper when it's blatantly obvious he doesn't have a clue who his #1 keeper is.

      So now we are back to Karius, and in his 1st game he concedes 3 goals, with the 1st being a very poor effort to save.

      Mignolet in the meantime is quite rightly looking for another club. Nice one! What happens now when Karius messes up? He's proven he's no better than Mignolet and should have continued as the #2 goalkeeper. Are we going to rely on Ward in near future?

      Boo F***ing hoo.
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      Re: The goalkeeper situation
      Reply #218: Jan 19, 2018 08:19:22 pm
      Neither Karius or Mignolet are good enough for this club, the fact they've been swapping with each other even since the German arrived last summer proves that neither can hold down the number one shirt.

      Karius was given a go, once he returned from injury, last season and after a run of some embarrassing mistakes he lost his place and didn't start another Premier League game from the 11th December onwards. Mignolet actually did alright when he came back into the side and it was pointed out by Jamie Carragher on numerous occassions that the performances from the Belgian may blind the club into thinking we didn't need a new keeper in the summer. Mignolet then started as number one for the League and Karius for Europe going into this season where both have made errors on a regular basis. Not every error leads to a goal, even for keepers. Errors include flapping at crosses, making the wrong decision with the ball at their feet, rushing out and getting nowhere near it etc etc.

      And now we're back at square one where one keeper has made too many mistakes and forced the manager's hand into making another change. So Karius is back in favour and in his first League outing in over a month, he makes another mistake. Now if he makes more mistakes in the upcoming games against Swansea and Huddersfield (and West Brom, if he's still our Cup keeper) does Klopp have to change it again for the month of February?

      For me, we need to address the situation now before it's too late. The window is open, bring in a world class keeper now - whoever that may be (I'm not gonna name names because I don't know half the people who are being banded around on these boards). Even if that keeper is inelgible for the Champions League, get them in now because they will be available for the League and given the likelihood of mistakes from our keepers, top four is not a guarantee just yet meaning come the summer we might not have Champions League football to offer these keepers, so get a keeper in who you know will do the job to ensure we are in the top four and back in the Champions League next year.

      And that task is clearly made simpler, due to the huge number of world class keepers, all currently desperate to leave their clubs and join Liverpool before the end of January.
      Jürgen must be blind if he can’t see that !

      🤡youclown !
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      Reply #219: Jan 19, 2018 08:37:11 pm
      And that task is clearly made simpler, due to the huge number of world class keepers, all currently desperate to leave their clubs and join Liverpool before the end of January.
      Jürgen must be blind if he can’t see that !

      🤡youclown !
      there is good keepers out there.
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      Reply #220: Jan 20, 2018 08:50:42 am

      Wonder if this means Mignolet is now the CL keeper? Or are we done with that rotation bollocks now?
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      Reply #221: Jan 20, 2018 09:33:31 am
      Wonder if this means Mignolet is now the CL keeper? Or are we done with that rotation bollocks now?
      Maybe he didn't play Mignolet to not cup tie him, so he can be flogged off.
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      Reply #222: Jan 20, 2018 10:06:23 am
      seems like handling to match the worst of the keeper by Kloppo...one doesnt seem any better or worse than the other, yet he makes a statement expressing clear preference for K.
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      Reply #223: Jan 20, 2018 10:08:25 am

      To be fair it is a balls up somewhere down the line to have these 2 as number 1.5s
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      Reply #224: Jan 20, 2018 10:28:01 am
      seems like handling to match the worst of the keeper by Kloppo...one doesnt seem any better or worse than the other, yet he makes a statement expressing clear preference for K.

      All along he’s been pretty straightforward who’s the current no.1......as it should be.

      I don’t think the overall quality is there at the moment but I don’t think in any way he’s been vague about who the no.1 is at any point in time.
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      Reply #225: Jan 20, 2018 12:34:46 pm
      We all got what we wanted.

      Migs The Blunderman playing in the ressies for the rest of the season... if we don't sell him in the next week.
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      Re: The goalkeeper situation
      Reply #226: Jan 20, 2018 12:46:30 pm
      Bit of a joke this from Klopp.

      How can he go about announcing his #1 keeper when it's blatantly obvious he doesn't have a clue who his #1 keeper is.

      So now we are back to Karius, and in his 1st game he concedes 3 goals, with the 1st being a very poor effort to save.

      Mignolet in the meantime is quite rightly looking for another club. Nice one! What happens now when Karius messes up? He's proven he's no better than Mignolet and should have continued as the #2 goalkeeper. Are we going to rely on Ward in near future?


      Hopefully when Karius fucks up Klopp will put his best keeper in goal WARD!
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      Reply #227: Jan 20, 2018 01:01:46 pm
      We havent had a world class keeper here since 81. We had 2 good ones in that time but not world class.

      Million miles from having one at tge minute
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      Re: The goalkeeper situation
      Reply #228: Jan 20, 2018 01:40:50 pm

      Hopefully when Karius fucks up Klopp will put his best keeper in goal WARD!

      How do you know Ward is our best keeper? Do you see him in training? Against top level teams?

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      Reply #229: Jan 20, 2018 02:03:15 pm
      How do you know Ward is our best keeper? Do you see him in training? Against top level teams?

      He doesn't

      People often think they know better or think things are as simple as a computer game

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