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      John Barnes Homophobic statement.

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      Harrisimo
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      Re: John Barnes Homophobic statement.
      Reply #23: Jan 21, 2018 07:28:09 pm
      Saying that your not comfortable in the company of gay men is not in itself offensive. Some of the other remarks were made in response to what the other lad said. I wouldn't think it's that big a deal. Not in any way saying homophobia is acceptable, but it's like anything these days - say one word out of place and you get slaughtered.

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      Reply #24: Jan 21, 2018 08:33:57 pm
      Wait!!.... kiss me neck back!...Shabba a yu that  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:

      Yesai my uth'

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      Reply #25: Jan 21, 2018 08:39:29 pm
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      Can I just check, are people allowed to have their own opinions any more or do we now all have to conform to the media liberal narrative of embracing all forms of sexuality? If we do have to subscribe to this narrative why are certain ethnic groups given a pass, e.g the muslim community who as far as I understand it take a fairly dim view of homosexuality, why is their no clamour or marches against their archaic and hurtful views?

      BTW for the record I do not share John Barnes views on this but I do think that as long as they don't hurt anyone then he is entitled to them, they are after all indicative of how a lot of people think if they are being honest.

      That may be the case, but if you have different opinions to the narrative on social issues, you learn to keep them to yourself. And if you're a white straight man, you keep them under lock and key. White men are supposed to enjoy "white male privilege" and expressing a controversial view is seen as reinforcing that "privilege", by society. So you keep your opinions to yourself, learn to tolerate things you don't like, and respect people you have nothing in common with and have no time for.

      Obviously John is not white, and has been discriminated against in the past, so he has a bit more leeway to express himself. But he is a man, so if he says something out of line, people will still talk about it.

      If you see the British comedy "Fawlty Towers" or the Irish comedy "Father Ted", even Monty Python, there is openly racist language expressed at times, controversial scenes included, and a fair amount of violence involved. Now they were very popular comedy shows with high viewing figures at the time, but you couldn't make shows like that today, because some community somewhere would find such jokes and/or scenes offensive. That's the way of the world these days.
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      Reply #26: Jan 21, 2018 08:58:07 pm
      F***ing pc brigade out again, so F***ing what Diggers entitled to his views. I was abused by a christian brother when i was 11 yrs old, F***ing queer he was and no one will change my mind about males having sexual thoughts about other males. That's the way it is get over it.
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      Re: John Barnes Homophobic statement.
      Reply #27: Jan 21, 2018 09:15:12 pm
      Annoying when we don't play until a Monday night isn't it.
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      Reply #28: Jan 21, 2018 09:16:22 pm
      Annoying when we don't play until a Monday night isn't it.

      Usual boring weekends without any proper footy!!
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      Reply #29: Jan 21, 2018 10:36:04 pm
      Homophobia in professional football is rife in football ... JB is saying what a lot of people in the professional game still believe. Hopefully some good can come from this as people begin to realise that it is completely unacceptable in the 21st Century

      It's completely acceptable. You can't force people to group think. You sound like a leftist cultural Marxist pleb.
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      Reply #30: Jan 21, 2018 11:20:52 pm
      This thread going well bringing out all the nasty right wingers in our support.
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      Reply #31: Jan 21, 2018 11:37:02 pm
      Hahaha. Funny how angry people get when they can no longer be homophobic or racist in public without being called out. Apparently that's group think. Oh well, whatever.
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      Re: John Barnes Homophobic statement.
      Reply #32: Jan 21, 2018 11:40:27 pm
      Woman says 'I feel like men are just looking at me and imagining me without my clothes on' - You tell em sister
      Man says 'I feel like gay men are just looking at me and imagining me without my clothes on' - Piece of sh*t homophobe.

      Men are pigs, but only if they're straight.

      At the same time, I bet Digger has looked at women in a sexual way and thought it was okay...

      How would that make the woman feel? Uncomfortable? Uneasy? Vulnerable? Much like how he feels when a gay man does the same.

      His comments were dumb and extremely hypocritical.
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      Reply #33: Jan 21, 2018 11:46:46 pm
      This thread going well bringing out all the nasty right wingers in our support.

      ;D there we go,  anything racist or phobic is instantly right wing, oh you have to love the hypocrisy of the left wing.
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      Re: John Barnes Homophobic statement.
      Reply #34: Jan 22, 2018 12:42:22 am
      Ah, the intolerance of the tolerant.

      Probably best to keep your controversial views to yourself as a rule (unless you have thick skin) but like someone else said.....what do you expect when you go on a tabloid TV show produced for the lowest common denominator. Digger probably will wish he expressed himself differently I’d wager.
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      Re: John Barnes Homophobic statement.
      Reply #35: Jan 22, 2018 06:55:16 am
      Can I just check, are people allowed to have their own opinions any more or do we now all have to conform to the media liberal narrative of embracing all forms of sexuality? If we do have to subscribe to this narrative why are certain ethnic groups given a pass, e.g the muslim community who as far as I understand it take a fairly dim view of homosexuality, why is their no clamour or marches against their archaic and hurtful views?

      BTW for the record I do not share John Barnes views on this but I do think that as long as they don't hurt anyone then he is entitled to them, they are after all indicative of how a lot of people think if they are being honest.

      Just for clarity and please, forgive if I'm mistaken (because I honestly could be) but arent you the dude who came into a Liverpool FC forum and started bigging up Maggie Thatcher?
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      Re: John Barnes Homophobic statement.
      Reply #36: Jan 22, 2018 10:25:01 am
      At the same time, I bet Digger has looked at women in a sexual way and thought it was okay...

      How would that make the woman feel? Uncomfortable? Uneasy? Vulnerable? Much like how he feels when a gay man does the same.

      His comments were dumb and extremely hypocritical.

      Definitely a possibility
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      Re: John Barnes Homophobic statement.
      Reply #37: Jan 22, 2018 11:07:41 am
      Just for clarity and please, forgive if I'm mistaken (because I honestly could be) but arent you the dude who came into a Liverpool FC forum and started bigging up Maggie Thatcher?

      I'm not sure I did, I'm fairly sure the vast majority of my posts are about the football club, but what is the relevance of your point, is it another thing I need to conform to, shall we abolish democracy as well now?
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      Reply #38: Jan 22, 2018 05:01:02 pm
      shall we abolish democracy as well now?

      From "did you praise Maggie Thatcher on a Liverpool forum?" to "abolishing democracy"... talk about being sensitive :lmao:
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      Reply #39: Jan 22, 2018 05:02:55 pm
      Ignore is a wonderful function.

      As all you dumb cu*ts not reading this already know ;)
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      Reply #40: Jan 22, 2018 05:04:57 pm
      From "did you praise Maggie Thatcher on a Liverpool forum?" to "abolishing democracy"... talk about being sensitive :lmao:

      No not really that sensitive, just getting a little bit fed up with people saying that because you aren't a book carrying socialist then you aren't allowed to support the club and yes I have had people actually say that to me before on this forum and that was the insinuation in the post I replied to.
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      Reply #41: Jan 22, 2018 05:06:19 pm
      Ignore is a wonderful function.

      As all you dumb cu*ts not reading this already know ;)

      How could we ignore you, a man with the chips perfectly balanced on each shoulder ;-)
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      Re: John Barnes Homophobic statement.
      Reply #42: Jan 22, 2018 05:09:32 pm
      At digger didn't talk about homosexuals ramming it down your throat
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      Re: John Barnes Homophobic statement.
      Reply #43: Jan 22, 2018 06:16:35 pm
      Because he's experienced severe racism in his career,  he must then force himself to be comfortable around gay men..

      *Tumble weed*
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      Re: John Barnes Homophobic statement.
      Reply #44: Jan 22, 2018 07:13:27 pm
      At digger didn't talk about homosexuals ramming it down your throat

      Unfortunate choice of words there mate.

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      Re: John Barnes Homophobic statement.
      Reply #45: Jan 22, 2018 07:42:50 pm
      Bizarre thread this.

      Live and let live, don’t know why people get so worked up over things that don’t impact them.

      Thank god the footy is back! 

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