Liverpool 2-3 West Brom

Pathetic. Embarrassing. Shambolic. Unacceptable.

Just a few of the words I can think of to describe that shower of sh*t.

Losing to Swansea and now this completely takes away all the hard work to beat City. Disgrace.

This has nothing to do with losing Coutinho, this was just a complete and utter shower of sh*t.

This was entirely to do with bad decision making to sell pip

Teams defend team against us as they know we struggle to break down teams who play a certain way

So do we do ? Instead of buying another creative outlet to give us more options

We sold our own one

We have ended our season and shot ourselves

But it’s ok, we all listen to a post match interview form klopp and all is well

The obvious difference is that they are dead ball sports so the delay has minimal impact. I love the NFL and think they have got it absolutely spot on now (don't forget they binned it first time around back in the 90s) and cricket has also done a great job but football is different. In the NFL they review every touchdown but if they start doing that for every goal it kills the spontaneity of the game, goals should be celebrated with gusto. Not muted with a 'let's wait an see what the replay says'.

That's what has to be done unfortunately. There are so many potential rule infringements and players looking to get away with stuff, that everything has to be checked for it's legality. I always say when goals are scored in VAR games, that "now we wait to see if it's really a goal or not". In most cases there's no issue, but there will often be times that the VAR has to step in and give the right decision.

People say that it ruins the flow. That's not the referee's problem really. His job is just to apply the letter of the law as it is. That's why the decisions made by VAR are the correct ones. And the game goes on.

Communication is still an issue. It will remain an issue while FIFA don't allow the fans in the stadium to know what is going on. So there are no microphones, no videos broadcast, and barely any information communicated. If the ref gave the video sign for a review instead of his earpiece, that would help to some extent.

But this works in rugby, it works in cricket, it works in tennis, it works in NFL, it will work in our sport.

These players are not good enough:

Migs, Alexander, Moreno, Wijnaldum, Can, Milner, and Henderson.

Perhaps a little harsh on Gini who has the odd game. Either way, when you play those players at the same time, you're going to struggle.

Our crossing was simply - shocking. Not sure TAA has it, but I'm pretty sure Moreno doesn't as he has too many gaffs. Thought a lot of our problems came from the fact our fullbacks were pretty horrible tonight.

How is it that we have come to this...?? Under Rafa (not my favorite of Manager) we never would have accepted players like Milner, Henderson, Migs nor Wijnaldum Or have view these player than anything more than mediocre, Moreno would be little more than a fringe player, and  Alexander would by a reserve (the lad is still young) Had Rafa shipped in these player most would have been gone the following summer and those who would have claimed that they would stay and fight for there place would never have made it any where near the starting 11....

Over the years since Rafa departed, we have started to except the signing of average or mediocre players as the norm with few exception (Suarez) we have sign average players, and when we have spotted real talent we have been so slow committing to buy that player/players (Transfer fee and Wages) we have lost out to our rivals in purchasing those players. Deli Ali to Spur, Salah to Chelsea, Mata to Chelsea, Sanchez to Arsenal, the list goes on...

The owners may have started to loosen the purse strings now, but we have suffered from a chronic lack of under investment in quality players since the departure of Rafa Benitez's stewardship in 2010 and some very below average signing by his replacement Kenny Dalglish, (which I said at the time that he would set us back five years with these signings)... and thus we are playing catch up with our rivals, eight years worth of catch up

To few supporters here would agree with me, but we have started to except average players as good signing, with claims like "we done have billionaire owners" (we do) " FSG are unwilling to pile debt on the club"  very admirably  but we are not looking for runaway debt, but rather a little "sustainable" investment in players instead of the cut price; only spend big if we sell big; investment we get now...

One can argue about the amounts spent on transfer, I believe that it is between £21m and £25M net over the last 7-8 years ( remember that the figures are somewhat Skewered by the sums receive for Suarez,Sterling and Coutinho), had it not been for the monies received for these players the investment would look even more woeful than it does already...

I am not asking for the owners or manager to go out and buy five or six players in the summer, but merely buy one or two quality players per window and invest in the club, and let's stop accepting Mediocrity

whats the point not letting ward on loan?? he would play every match in epl with huddersfield.

mignolet - hope i will never see him in out goal...its disgrace

main problem in our team is midfield...so slow, no creativity, no balls, no shoting capabilities...disaster

we should asap buy oblak/alison
creative midfielder, defensive midfielder, new lb, new rb, new striker...

whats the point not letting ward on loan?? he would play every match in epl with huddersfield.

He should be playing every match in the epl with Liverpool.

Can’t possibly do any worse than smokehands and near-post Norman.

Got to laugh at folk saying we conceded 5 goals just to make everything seem worse than it already is.

Couldn't bloody sleep after that shower of sh*te, utter disgrace, time for Mr Klopp to act fast, he appears to have binned off Migs (well apart from playing the pr**k last night) now its time to act on others, Moreno should never play for our great club again, nor should Emre Can, and Gini and useless muppet Matip should be on borrowed time, then you have Lovren, Milner, Klavan, etc etc, if LFC want to compete on all fronts then these players need binning off.

Got to laugh at folk saying we conceded 5 goals just to make everything seem worse than it already is.

Makes a point though, doesn’t it?

Makes a point though, doesn’t it?

First disallowed goal was contentious at best but the second one there was a line of about 5 West Brom players offside. We conceded 3 and that’s bad enough.

Summed up perfectly mate,  we go 1 up early, concede immediately and from there capitulate, this was a Pardew team scoring five, FIVE goals at Anfield, has that actually ever happened in our history, its not as if WBA played out of their skins either, we were simply f***in awful and quite frankly unacceptable,

Bottlers is exactly what they are, no fight, nothing, Once again our defence were unbelievably pathetic, all of them like fish up a tree, young Trent despite his youth got found out, Matip worse performance I've seen from him and proof we need another top drawer CB  next Virgil, talking of which looked lost and bewildered, and good old Bertie, the one chance he had to convince Jürgen he would/ could be his no1 LB  and he fu**ed it, no only did he F**k it up, he gave Klopp the thumbs up that he needs back up for Robbo, and it ain't f***in him, out you go Alberto careful that door handle don't hit your arse on the way out, and just like that f***in clown behind you i don't ever want to see you wearing our colours ever again.
There should be crime of imitating a goalkeeper, if there were Mignolet would get life.

PATHETIC , WOEFUL, GUTLESS, SHAMBOLIC, AND UTTER f***in PISH, that's what we were and not forgetting....
.....UNACCEPTABLE  !!

YNWA

Who is going to sign them and take them off our hands? Juventus have lined up one, the rest are not exactly getting many calls for their services. So we're stuck with them, one of them is on a 3,5 year contract.

Our defending standards have dropped lately. I heard recently that when something goes wrong in our gameplan, the rest unravels very quickly. When you look back at earlier games, it's hard to disagree with it really. We've seen it too many times this season, and it's been a problem at this club going back years and years and years. One chink and the whole deck of cards crumbles. Call it a defensive problem, a mentality problem, a spending problem, whatever it is it has to be fixed, as it costs us too often.

Even if he was here, Coutinho wouldn't have played, or at least started this game.  He was only a late sub against Wolves a year ago, and there wasn't a lot he could do. So the arguments about how he would have done in this game are moot really. We should still have enough to beat West Brom as it is, without him.

One last thing. They didn't score 5 goals, although 3 is bad enough.

Morning all, first time poster on here.

I want to make several points.

Firstly Klopp. He has been manager for over 2 1/2yrs and he has failed to address the keeper situation, mignolet is beyond a joke, karius looks looks like a frightened rabbit, only Ward looks any where near a potentially decent keeper. Klopp's failings to address this is disgraceful.

The defense: there are only two defenders who could call them selves that, Robertson and Virgil, players like klavan, lovren, Matip, and moreno are a disgrace to the shirt!

The midfield: Pah! Not one of them are good enough, none of our top four rivals would have any of our midfielders.

Forwards: firmino is a very good false number 9, but sadly thats about it, sadly Ings is no where near good enough, sturridge is brittle ( but the most talented and natural finisher we have) and solanke needs to go on loan, so naive and raw, wont develop stuck on the bench.

Wingers: Salah is the only shinning light! What a signing. Mane well he looks like he needs to come out the team but we have no better options sadly.

Klopp: I think Lfc fans should now realise he is not capable of building and strong enough team, surely any one with a clue starts by building the spine of the team, GK, centre backs, central midfield, and forwards! We have barely one of those qualities.
Klopps tactics too too often lead to us getting found out and beaten, last nights result is not a fluke, its keeps happening.
So unless last night serves as a wake up call to Klopp and he realises he needs to have a mass clear out and sign players good enough and take a look at his tactics then sadly players like coutinho may sign but will soon leave, ( Salah) and LFC will just just drift along flattering to deceive 😡😡😡😡😡😔😔

VAR rules a West Brom goal out AND gives us a penalty. And we lose 3-2.

I'm fuming about last night's result. It was embarrassing.

Got to laugh at folk saying we conceded 5 goals just to make everything seem worse than it already is.

Right you are,  it was only the 3 conceded at home against the high flying West Brom!

High balls into the box. All caught by a tall competent keeper. And then more high balls into the box. Uuuurgh.

Ings should be starting the next game. Robertson too.

Got to laugh at folk saying we conceded 5 goals just to make everything seem worse than it already is.

Bollocks.

The first disallowed goal was just standard school boy defending from us.

A ball comes in from a set piece and the keeper doesn't come from his line as F***ing usual and then firmino doesn't jump with Dawson who is one of their biggest threats (why was F***ing Bobby dealing with that anyway). Dawson nods it in and Mignolet isn't saving it.

Luckily Barry was in an offside position and it can be argued after using VAR that he was impeding Mignolet, but F***ing come on, how many years now have we seen that? If Barry is standing on the half way line then that would have still been a goal and you know yourself it would have. Mignolet doesn't come for crosses and we can't defend set pieces.

There was an incident in france a couple of weeks ago when a goal was given when the ball bounced down off the bar and the goalline technology signalled goal to the ref, tv replay showed it hadn't crossed the line so after several minutes the goal was disallowed , the company which wasn't hawkeye was hauled over the coals for it's mistake,  surely getting it right is important

that would be a matter of having the system right - and if it is as flawed as that, then it shouldn't be implemented yet. The NFL had replay something like 20-25 years ago, stopped it for at least a season, and then re-implemented it.

I also wonder if the angles/tech available at, say, Newport County, is equal to what is set up at Anfield or Stamford Bridge.

Only saw the highlights, obviously not good enough. Two defeats in a row, after a fairly long unbeaten run. Exactly what has gone wrong, with the side ? Defensive wise playing more like a circus team, gone on for far too long. Need another couple of defenders seemingly to accompany Virgil and Robertson, like a previous poster said. Seemingly problem, will be with us, until at least the next transfer window and beyond.

I honestly dont know what is the problem with Mane. his first touches has been awful and has suddenly gone so bad.
For god sake why not give a chance to Ward ? If your number 1 and 2 are going to perform like they are doing now why not try him. It cant be any worse than this.

Gini has been good in patches, but thats simply not enough.

This man is definitely not looking like going to win anything, as there is absolutely no plans apart from just running for 90 mins.

To be honest we cannot blame the owners for everything(though they deserve it) as yesterday nights performance was all due to players not showing any commitment or hunger to perform and a manager with absolutely no fallback ideas.

Bundes Liga != English Football. As simple as that. Every single team here fights till death and if you don't have brains to tackle it, please walk away.

Now that everything is over, only thing we can be satisfied is a place in top 4 [ which is again going to be nightmare]

I am afraid we might lose Salah in this summer or next Jan if we go on like these

VAR rules a West Brom goal out AND gives us a penalty. And we lose 3-2.

I'm fuming about last night's result. It was embarrassing.

Still fuming as well.

Just had a rant about it this morning in work.

Like I said last night I'm sick and tired of not winning anything.

As said before got an early goal, one of there goals chalked off and a penalty, what more can you ask for

Right you are,  it was only the 3 conceded at home against the high flying West Brom!

We conceded 3 and that’s bad enough.

Bollocks.

The first disallowed goal was just standard school boy defending from us.

A ball comes in from a set piece and the keeper doesn't come from his line as f**king usual and then firmino doesn't jump with Dawson who is one of their biggest threats (why was f**king Bobby dealing with that anyway). Dawson nods it in and Mignolet isn't saving it.

Luckily Barry was in an offside position and it can be argued after using VAR that he was impeding Mignolet, but f**king come on, how many years now have we seen that? If Barry is standing on the half way line then that would have still been a goal and you know yourself it would have. Mignolet doesn't come for crosses and we can't defend set pieces.

Bollocks to yourself, I’m stating facts. We conceded 3 goals, end of.

Bollocks to yourself, I’m stating facts. We conceded 3 goals, end of.

Think the point people are trying to make is that without that var bullshit, last night would of been a bit more embarrassing.