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      7-King Kenny-7
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      Re: Going to the toilet during lessons.
      Reply #30: Jan 29, 2018 06:15:07 pm
      I’d have just gone anyway, if the teacher wanted to punish me for going then so be it. Teachers quite happily drink their coffee during lesson and I’m sure if they really had to go then they would.

      Sound like you are trying to be a Hitler for no reason, they’re kids. Say about them starting secondary school so obviously growing up a bit but how are you meant to gain the respect of the pupils if you won’t even let them go to the toilet.

      If they are going out of class and messing around it’s a bit different.
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      Reply #31: Jan 29, 2018 06:20:31 pm
      The thing is it is like a chain reaction. If you let one go they all suddenly need to. It is easier to just to have a firm breaktime only rule, they then either learn to go at break or sit with their legs crossed.
      I'd definitely be strict say within the first half hour of a lesson because then there is no excuse at all, but as someone who, when has any amount of drink, needs to go soon after, I'd probably have a softer look at it say 45 minutes into a lesson.

      Maybe keep a chart/book near the door of your classroom, when a student needs to leave, make sure they sign it, and if once a week you look at it, and spot the same name over and over again, organise a meeting with the head teacher/parents just to outline how distracting it can be to their education and discuss possible medical reasons, if a child is going to the toilet just to skip a few minutes then knowing this is the outcome might make them avoid it.
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      Reply #32: Jan 29, 2018 06:21:07 pm
      No not a parent. What difference does that make?

      It would (perhaps will if that’s something you plan in your future) give you a different perspective.

      The welfare of the individual child is just as important as maintaining a structure in class
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      Reply #33: Jan 29, 2018 06:26:58 pm
      I’d have just gone anyway, if the teacher wanted to punish me for going then so be it. Teachers quite happily drink their coffee during lesson and I’m sure if they really had to go then they would.

      Sound like you are trying to be a Hitler for no reason, they’re kids. Say about them starting secondary school so obviously growing up a bit but how are you meant to gain the respect of the pupils if you won’t even let them go to the toilet.

      If they are going out of class and messing around it’s a bit different.

      In 5 years of teaching I've never left to go to the toilet. It would have to be a true emergency for a teacher to go during lessons.

      I as well have the kids have a water bottle in class that they can get during their independent work.
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      Reply #34: Jan 29, 2018 06:27:25 pm
      I have children in year 1 and year 4, actually in recent weeks my eldest has said to me if I need the toilet in lesson then what do I do? I said to him you just go and ask your teacher and tell her you need to go

      I trust my lad, he works hard and wouldn't do it to just get out of lesson, if he asked and was told no I wouldn't be happy at all about it

      It's a basic human requirement if they need to go to the toilet they should be able to go.

      If a kid asked to go a load of times in the same lesson then I could understand if they were told no. But if they ask and they need to go then they should be able to go. 5 minutes or not

      Anyway, I've given my opinion, I'm not getting into it any further.
      I don't agree with kids not being allowed to go to the toilet if they need as long as they are doing their work and behaving they should be allowed a basic human need.
      If I am in a work meeting or course and someone needs the toilet they go.
      « Last Edit: Jan 29, 2018 06:34:21 pm by Kopite78 »
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      Reply #35: Jan 29, 2018 06:30:26 pm
      I have children in year 1 and year 4, actually in recent weeks my eldest has said to me if I need the toilet in lesson then what do I do? I said to him you just go and ask your teacher and tell her you need to go

      I trust my lad, he works hard and wouldn't do it to just get out of lesson, if he asked and was told no I wouldn't be happy at all about it

      It's a basic human requirement if they need to go to the toilet they should be able to go.

      If a kid asked to go a load of times in the same lesson then I could understand if they were told no. But if they ask and they need to go then they should be able to go. 5 minutes or not

      Why was he asking that in year 4? Maybe because they are getting older and have been told to go at break.
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      Re: Going to the toilet during lessons.
      Reply #36: Jan 29, 2018 06:31:15 pm
      In 5 years of teaching I've never left to go to the toilet. It would have to be a true emergency for a teacher to go during lessons.

      I as well have the kids have a water bottle in class that they can get during their independent work.

      So they can get a drink during their independent work but not go to the toilet? So they then need the toilet in the following lesson but not allowed to go.
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      Reply #37: Jan 29, 2018 06:34:39 pm
      So they can get a drink during their independent work but not go to the toilet? So they then need the toilet in the following lesson but not allowed to go.

      I let each child go to the sink once during a session one at a time if they want a drink, they are only given 1 minute.
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      Reply #38: Jan 29, 2018 06:37:35 pm
      I let each child go to the sink once during a session one at a time if they want a drink, they are only given 1 minute.

      And it takes how long to go to the toilet? Probably a lot less time than letting a combined 15-30 kids all go get a drink during their independent work.
      The odd child going to the toilet for a couple of minutes is a lot less disruptive to the learning environment than the whole class being allowed to go fill up their water bottles, whether hat is for a timed 1 minute or not.
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      Reply #39: Jan 29, 2018 06:42:00 pm
      And it takes how long to go to the toilet? Probably a lot less time than letting a combined 15-30 kids all go get a drink during their independent work.
      The odd child going to the toilet for a couple of minutes is a lot less disruptive to the learning environment than the whole class being allowed to go fill up their water bottles, whether hat is for a timed 1 minute or not.

      I let them have a drink because it is school policy to encourage drinking water.

      Water helps than concentrate. Like I've said they have breaks to go for a wee.
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      Re: Going to the toilet during lessons.
      Reply #40: Jan 29, 2018 06:49:59 pm
      I let them have a drink because it is school policy to encourage drinking water.

      Water helps than concentrate. Like I've said they have breaks to go for a wee.

      They have breaks to get a drink for the lesson, so why do you let them get it during the lesson? Something you say about needing the toilet.
      You say that water help their concentration, well not letting them go to the toilet is going to do the opposite?

      You let them get the thing that makes them need the toilet and then not let them go when needed.
      « Last Edit: Jan 29, 2018 06:57:56 pm by 7-King Kenny-7 »
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      Reply #41: Jan 29, 2018 06:57:56 pm
      I let them have a drink because it is school policy to encourage drinking water.

      Water helps than concentrate. Like I've said they have breaks to go for a wee.

      So school policy is to drink water.

      By drinking water you need to go to the toilet

      But you won't let them go to the toilet

      Ok
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      Reply #42: Jan 29, 2018 07:00:36 pm
      They have breaks to get a drink for the lesson, so why do you let them get it during the lesson? Something you say about needing the toilet.
      You say that water help their concentration, well not letting them go to the toilet is going to do the opposite?

      Because they don't take their bottles out to play with them. They don't need the loo if they have been at break. Who needs to go more than once every couple of hours.

      If work is incomplete they stay at break to do it.
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      Reply #43: Jan 29, 2018 07:04:59 pm
      So school policy is to drink water.

      By drinking water you need to go to the toilet

      But you won't let them go to the toilet

      Ok

      They don't drink too much. Breaks are in place for the toilet.
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      Reply #44: Jan 29, 2018 07:08:09 pm
      They don't drink too much. Breaks are in place for the toilet.

      Ok

      Anyway if anything you have proved one thing

      Time travel is possible

      You're obviously from the 1920s
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      Re: Going to the toilet during lessons.
      Reply #45: Jan 29, 2018 07:08:33 pm
      Because they don't take their bottles out to play with them. They don't need the loo if they have been at break. Who needs to go more than once every couple of hours.

      If work is incomplete they stay at break to do it.

      They’re children, it doesn’t matter if they need to go more than once every couple of hours, especially if you are letting them drink in class.

      Makes no sense to me;

      Don’t let them go to the toilet as they can go at break
      Let them go get a drink during lesson
      Don’t take a drink bottle out with them to get at break
      Has to stay behind at break to finish work which then takes away the time they are allowed to go to the toilet

      Is it school policy they don’t go to the toilet during lesson, or is this you saying?
      Personally I think you’ve had it in the neck from a parent or something and now looking for justification. Though why you have come on to a Liverpool Football Club forum to do that I’m not quite sure.
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      Re: Going to the toilet during lessons.
      Reply #46: Jan 29, 2018 07:11:32 pm
      Lol at this thread.
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      Reply #47: Jan 29, 2018 07:15:11 pm
      Ive seen some silly threads in my time but this one takes the biscuit.  ;D Think i'll go to back of the class now as i think Missjemred sending me there.  :lmao:
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      Reply #48: Jan 29, 2018 07:15:12 pm
      They’re children, it doesn’t matter if they need to go more than once every couple of hours, especially if you are letting them drink in class.

      Makes no sense to me;

      Don’t let them go to the toilet as they can go at break
      Let them go get a drink during lesson
      Don’t take a drink bottle out with them to get at break
      Has to stay behind at break to finish work which then takes away the time they are allowed to go to the toilet

      Is it school policy they don’t go to the toilet during lesson, or is this you saying?
      Personally I think you’ve had it in the neck from a parent or something and now looking for justification. Though why you have come on to a Liverpool Football Club forum to do that I’m not quite sure.

      It is not school policy that they can't go to loo in class time it is teacher discretion.
      I have already said a parent was unhappy because I made her daughter wait all afternoon.

      If they stay at break they still go to the toilet.
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      Reply #49: Jan 29, 2018 07:15:30 pm
      Definitely my favourite thread since the Citeh game 🤣🤣🤣
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      Re: Going to the toilet during lessons.
      Reply #50: Jan 29, 2018 07:18:33 pm
      I have already said a parent was unhappy because I made her daughter wait all afternoon.

      If they stay at break they still go to the toilet.

      Ah okay so it’s not school policy and it’s not actually within your rights to stop them going to the toilet then. Glad we’ve cleared that up.

      Definitely my favourite thread since the Citeh game 🤣🤣🤣

      Yeah I think it has definitely come for the time to call it a day. Try not to be too disappointed yous lot ;)

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