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      Alisson Becker (AS Roma)

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      Re: Alisson Becker (AS Roma)
      Reply #900: Jul 18, 2018 09:11:17 pm
      In a way this will be make or break for Achterberg. He's got a reprieve countless times in the last 5 years. Reina was 'past it'. Mignolet 'a Sunderland level player doing what a Sunderland level player does' and Karius a 'inexperienced keeper from mid table Bundesliga'. With Allison he'll get to prove the doubters wrong if our new number 1 succeeds big time but if the questions over our number 1 keeper persist even with Allison on board then there's no escape for Achterberg.
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      Reply #901: Jul 18, 2018 09:14:16 pm
      In a way this will be make or break for Achterberg. He's got a reprieve countless times in the last 5 years. Reina was 'past it'. Mignolet 'a Sunderland level player doing what a Sunderland level player does' and Karius a 'inexperienced keeper from mid table Bundesliga'. With Allison he'll get to prove the doubters wrong if our new number 1 succeeds big time but if the questions over our number 1 keeper persist even with Allison on board then there's no escape for Achterberg.

      I have no idea how he’s managed to stay at the club under 5 different managers.
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      Reply #902: Jul 18, 2018 09:15:08 pm
      In a way this will be make or break for Achterberg. He's got a reprieve countless times in the last 5 years. Reina was 'past it'. Mignolet 'a Sunderland level player doing what a Sunderland level player does' and Karius a 'inexperienced keeper from mid table Bundesliga'. With Allison he'll get to prove the doubters wrong if our new number 1 succeeds big time but if the questions over our number 1 keeper persist even with Allison on board then there's no escape for Achterberg.

      Excellent point
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      Re: Alisson Becker (AS Roma)
      Reply #903: Jul 18, 2018 09:18:56 pm
      In a way this will be make or break for Achterberg. He's got a reprieve countless times in the last 5 years. Reina was 'past it'. Mignolet 'a Sunderland level player doing what a Sunderland level player does' and Karius a 'inexperienced keeper from mid table Bundesliga'. With Allison he'll get to prove the doubters wrong if our new number 1 succeeds big time but if the questions over our number 1 keeper persist even with Allison on board then there's no escape for Achterberg.

      The idea of Achterberg experimenting on Allison to be his make it or break it project.. *shudder*

      Perhaps we should get rid of him and have a proper fresh start.
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      Reply #904: Jul 18, 2018 09:21:25 pm
      I have no idea how he’s managed to stay at the club under 5 different managers.

      I never buy into the 'if he's good enough for 5 different managers then he must be doing something right'.

      You only have to look at Martin Skrtel (albeit on the playing staff side of things) to thoroughly disprove that point.
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      Reply #905: Jul 18, 2018 09:23:23 pm
      I have no idea how he’s managed to stay at the club under 5 different managers.

      Totally agree, He is a chancer who has not made any difference whatsoever, he is learning from the players he is supposed to be coaching
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      Reply #906: Jul 18, 2018 09:23:32 pm
      I have no idea how he’s managed to stay at the club under 5 different managers.

      Must make an unbelievable brew
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      Reply #907: Jul 18, 2018 09:25:03 pm
      No doubt we've turned a corner.
      VVD was a big statement.
      Alisson will be even bigger.
      No reason now why we cant challenge for the PL.
      Fantastic times for us 😀

      If Fekir comes in We will win the league. Calling it!!!
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      Reply #908: Jul 18, 2018 09:36:07 pm
      Of course you know what will happen once Allison is on board. He'll twist his knee in training by which point Karius would have been sent on loan to the Bundesliga to 'regain his confidence' and then we'll have to start the season with Simon Mignolet in goal. Again. I swear to god if that happens I will go f**king insane and be incarcerated in a mental unit for life.
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      Reply #909: Jul 18, 2018 10:03:17 pm
      Of course you know what will happen once Allison is on board. He'll twist his knee in training by which point Karius would have been sent on loan to the Bundesliga to 'regain his confidence' and then we'll have to start the season with Simon Mignolet in goal. Again. I swear to god if that happens I will go f**king insane and be incarcerated in a mental unit for life.

      Ward would be in goal, not as bad as you fear.
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      Re: Alisson Becker (AS Roma)
      Reply #910: Jul 18, 2018 10:07:35 pm
      What I have seen in Ward has impressed me wonder why Jürgen doesn't like ?
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      Re: Alisson Becker (AS Roma)
      Reply #911: Jul 18, 2018 10:12:32 pm
      Ward would be in goal, not as bad as you fear.

      I see Ward as being the back up. He has shown enough promise and for him it'd be a step up from collecting splinters off his ass last season so he'd be happy with the role. I imagine Karius will get loaned out to maximize his value then sold next summer. At the price paid, Alisson is here for the long term sink or swim so Karius is not going to want to hang around for an opportunity that simply won't come.
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      Re: Alisson Becker (AS Roma)
      Reply #912: Jul 18, 2018 10:14:20 pm
      What I have seen in Ward has impressed me wonder why Jürgen doesn't like ?

      He's seen him in training everyday
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      Re: Alisson Becker (AS Roma)
      Reply #913: Jul 18, 2018 10:19:13 pm
      Knowing Klopp you wouldn’t be surprised if we started with the world’s most expensive sub!!
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      Re: Alisson Becker (AS Roma)
      Reply #914: Jul 18, 2018 10:41:43 pm
      Medical tomorrow according to the usual (reliable) sources. And a 6 year contract!
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      Re: Alisson Becker (AS Roma)
      Reply #915: Jul 18, 2018 10:43:56 pm
      We're not f**king about are we.

      I've no idea how good this guy is but I'm pretty sure you don't spend a world record for a dud.
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      Re: Alisson Becker (AS Roma)
      Reply #916: Jul 18, 2018 10:44:48 pm
      We're not f**king about are we.

       

      Doubters into believers Si.
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      Re: Alisson Becker (AS Roma)
      Reply #917: Jul 18, 2018 10:46:33 pm

      Indeed.

      Are folk still tracking planes and what not?

      Me, I've spent the evening enjoying Baby Driver again comfortable in the knowledge this is in the bag.
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      Reply #918: Jul 18, 2018 10:48:38 pm
      Indeed.

      Are folk still tracking planes and what not?

      Me, I've spent the evening enjoying Baby Driver again comfortable in the knowledge this is in the bag.

      Nah plane has landed and supposedly medical tomorrow and possible announcement tomorrow night/friday.
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      Re: Alisson Becker (AS Roma)
      Reply #919: Jul 18, 2018 10:55:30 pm
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GozCvK5osHs

      His medium and long passes are sick.
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      Re: Alisson Becker (AS Roma)
      Reply #920: Jul 18, 2018 10:58:42 pm

      Something I heard on Taw today...were all going to have to get used to him trying to sucker in defenders with the ball at his feet and learn to not freak out...that video confirms it :)
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      Re: Alisson Becker (AS Roma)
      Reply #921: Jul 18, 2018 11:00:38 pm

      Imagine him catching a corner and starting our counter attack. Very excited with his distribution
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      Reply #922: Jul 18, 2018 11:01:32 pm
      Something I heard on Taw today...were all going to have to get used to him trying to sucker in defenders with the ball at his feet and learn to not freak out...that video confirms it :)

      He is gonna get caught out one day, isn't he? Hopefully it'll be when we are leading by 3-4 goals to 0 :)
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      Reply #923: Jul 18, 2018 11:08:07 pm
      He is gonna get caught out one day, isn't he? Hopefully it'll be when we are leading by 3-4 goals to 0 :)

      Just hope the fans have his back and cheer him on after he makes an inevitable error.  Confidence is key for a GK. 
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      Re: Alisson Becker (AS Roma)
      Reply #924: Jul 18, 2018 11:50:28 pm
      I'm thrilled about this transfer (I'll still hold from celebrating until I see him in the LFC shirt). I hope he can solve our GK problems once and for all. While I know that the PL is a different league from any other one, the GK position is the one I would expect needs the lesser adaptation period. I hope he can hit the ground running or something close to that.

      If stats are of any worth, here's a little basic dash of it from Transfermarkt:

      Games played in the Brazilian Serie A: 44
      Goals conceded during this period: 44
      Average of goals conceded per game: 1
      Number of clean sheets kept during this period: 20

      Games played in the Italian Serie A: 37
      Goals conceded during this period: 28
      Average of goals conceded per game: 0.75
      Number of clean sheets kept during this period: 17

      Marked improvement since he moved to Italy. However, let's keep in mind its a league that is traditionally considered as one where teams focus a lot on the defensive side of the game.

      For comparison, here are Oblak numbers in La Liga and the Liga NOS:

      Games played in the Liga NOS: 60
      Goals conceded during this period: 71
      Average of goals conceded per game: 1.18
      Number of clean sheets kept during this period: 24

      Games played in La Liga: 116
      Goals conceded during this period: 67
      Average of goals conceded per game: 0.57
      Number of clean sheets kept during this period: 68

      Warning: These stats are just a bit of fun to look at. A goalkeeper overall performances also depend on a lot of factors. The team you play for is probably one of the biggest. For example, Oblak plays on a very defensively minded team in Atletico Madrid and maybe he would've conceded a little bit more playing for a team that puts a little bit less emphasis on defending.

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