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      7-King Kenny-7
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #350: Apr 09, 2019 11:12:20 pm
      Just saw Fernandinho's elbow, how the f**k did that not go to VAR and a sending off?

      Because it's a City player.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #351: Apr 09, 2019 11:32:13 pm

      Yeah, so much for this "VAR quiz" nonsense that tries to bring some form of system to something that is still just some dickheads making human judgements.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #352: Apr 09, 2019 11:39:59 pm

      You sure eat up the City conspiracy
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      Reply #353: Apr 10, 2019 12:03:35 am
      You sure eat up the City conspiracy

      Don't take it so seriously, was more just getting at the fact that the team with the most controversies going on at the moment regarding VAR is City. Will be another team before long.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #354: Apr 10, 2019 03:38:15 pm
      Day 32 EPL, VAR Quiz:

      Cardiff v Chelsea:
      Incident:
      Goal scored by Chelsea.
      Decision: Goal given.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Offside given.

      Cardiff v Chelsea:
      Incident: Penalty claim by Cardiff.
      Decision: No action taken.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Penalty given.

      Cardiff v Chelsea:
      Incident:
      Serious Foul Play by Chelsea.
      Decision: Free kick, yellow card.
      VAR Review? Decision Stands.

      v Spurs (h):
      Incident:
      Penalty claim by us.
      Decision: Corner given.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Penalty given for handball in box from Origi free kick.

      At least 10 decisions from the shortened March schedule should have been changed, as we head towards the three figure mark for the season.

      TBC...
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #355: Apr 10, 2019 03:39:36 pm
      Day 33 EPL, VAR Quiz:

      Newcastle v Palace:
      Incident:
      Goal scored by Palace.
      Decision: Offside given.
      VAR Review? Decision Stands.

      v Southampton (a):
      Incident:
      Penalty claim by us.
      Decision: No action taken.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Penalty given.

      TBC...
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #356: Apr 10, 2019 03:39:37 pm
      Day 32 EPL, VAR Quiz:

      Cardiff v Chelsea:
      Incident:
      Goal scored by Chelsea.
      Decision: Goal given.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Offside given.

      Cardiff v Chelsea:
      Incident: Penalty claim by Cardiff.
      Decision: No action taken.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Penalty given.

      Cardiff v Chelsea:
      Incident:
      Serious Foul Play by Chelsea.
      Decision: Free kick, yellow card.
      VAR Review? Decision Stands.

      v Spurs (h):
      Incident:
      Penalty claim by us.
      Decision: Corner given.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Penalty given for handball in box from Origi free kick.

      At least 10 decisions from the shortened March schedule should have been changed, as we head towards the three figure mark for the season.

      TBC...

      Not sure how it’s a quiz...
      You have no clue what would or wouldn’t have happened had it gone to VAR.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #357: Apr 10, 2019 03:40:28 pm
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      What makes me laugh about this thread is how you write "VAR Review: xxx would've happened" as a type of matter-of-fact statement, when in reality football will always be a game of opinions and you have no idea what would've actually been decided.

      VAR is better than nothing, but it will never be as cut-and-dry as your weekly statements make out to be.

      You know I don't question a VAR decision, as it's like a refereeing version of CAS. Once a VAR makes a call on an incident, there is usually a valid case for why the final decision was made. There could be 100mn quid on the line over the coming weeks, a gang of clubs are hoping to avoid finishing 18th, we're in a title race, where mistakes by players and/or officials carry greater weight.

      I don't get the row over that cup incident. The VAR at the time reviewed the incident and knowing what happened, decided a yellow for both players sufficed. One pundit thought the second goal in the other semi final was offside, questioning VAR because he thought the decision was wrong. No action was required as the replay showed the forward clearly onside. But just because somebody doesn't agree with one decision occasionally, doesn't mean we must tear it up and take a step back to the bad old ways. VAR has already cut down on dark arts behaviour at set pieces, practically eliminated diving in the penalty area, and drastically reduced protests about decisions in general on the pitch. That is great for the game.

      There will be 100+ major, game changing, refereeing injustices in the EPL this season allowed to stand. Like everyone else in the league, we've suffered our fair share of crap decisions. If we won at Arsenal as we should have with VAR, we would be comfortably top of the league now. But it's not and our fate is out of our hands atm. VAR has a 99.3% correct decision rate, so when it is called upon, it will get many more decisions right than we do atm.
      « Last Edit: Apr 10, 2019 03:48:32 pm by lfc across the water »
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #358: Apr 10, 2019 03:43:44 pm
      You know I don't question a VAR decision, as it's like a refereeing version of CAS. Once a VAR makes a call on an incident, there is usually a valid case for why the final decision was made. There could be 100mn quid on the line over the coming weeks, a gang of clubs are hoping to avoid finishing 18th, we're in a title race, where mistakes by players and/or officials carry greater weight.

      I don't get the row over that cup incident. The VAR at the time reviewed the incident and knowing what happened, decided a yellow for both players sufficed. One pundit thought the second goal in the other semi final was offside, questioning VAR because he thought the decision was wrong. No action was required as the replay showed the forward clearly onside. But just because somebody doesn't agree with one decision occasionally, doesn't mean we must tear it up and take a step back to the bad old ways. VAR has already cut down on dark arts behaviour at set pieces, practically eliminated diving in the penalty area, and drastically reduced protests about decisions in general. That is great for the game.

      There will be 100+ major, game changing, refereeing injustices in the EPL this season allowed to stand. Like everyone else in the league, we've suffered our fair share of crap decisions. If we won at Arsenal as we should have with VAR, we would be comfortably top of the league now. But it's not and our fate is out of our hands atm. VAR has a 99.3% correct decision rate, so when it is called upon, it will get many more decisions right than we do atm.

      Amazing how you manage to come to such conclusions regarding VAR, yet you can’t work out how to quote someone’s post properly.
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      Reply #359: Apr 10, 2019 05:52:22 pm
      Amazing how you manage to come to such conclusions regarding VAR, yet you can’t work out how to quote someone’s post properly.

      I agree with him - are you a qualified referee to allow you to make the judgements you keep stating as fact

      Perfect example is the Maguire incident which you claimed would be a “red” despite all qualified referees stating it was a yellow.

      So how are you qualified to make factual statements about VAR decisions
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #360: Apr 10, 2019 06:55:15 pm
      I agree with him - are you a qualified referee to allow you to make the judgements you keep stating as fact

      Perfect example is the Maguire incident which you claimed would be a “red” despite all qualified referees stating it was a yellow.

      So how are you qualified to make factual statements about VAR decisions

      Well that's a massive contradiction if ever there was one. You agree with one poster who is stating their argument as fact but then question the qualification of somebody else who is stating an opinion about their so called "facts".

      That poster also said -
      If we won at Arsenal as we should have with VAR, we would be comfortably top of the league now.

      Which is a pointless thing to be stating because the entire season since then would have been slightly different, we could have lost more and been 4th for all he knows.

      So I expect you to show some consistency and ask the same question - "So how are you qualified to make factual statements about VAR decisions" to the poster who is saying what would and wouldn't happen if VAR was used on certain instances.

      As for all qualified refs saying it was only a yellow... what qualifies you to make that statement? Have you looked up the opinion of every qualified ref in the game?

      Come back to me when you stop contradicting yourself.
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      Reply #361: Apr 10, 2019 07:16:12 pm
      Well that's a massive contradiction if ever there was one. You agree with one poster who is stating their argument as fact but then question the qualification of somebody else who is stating an opinion about their so called "facts".

      That poster also said -
      Which is a pointless thing to be stating because the entire season since then would have been slightly different, we could have lost more and been 4th for all he knows.

      So I expect you to show some consistency and ask the same question - "So how are you qualified to make factual statements about VAR decisions" to the poster who is saying what would and wouldn't happen if VAR was used on certain instances.

      As for all qualified refs saying it was only a yellow... what qualifies you to make that statement? Have you looked up the opinion of every qualified ref in the game?

      Come back to me when you stop contradicting yourself.

      Calm yourself down there lad - i quoted the wrong person , I was actually agreeing with you. Maybe instead of overreacting take a step backwards and check
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #362: Apr 10, 2019 07:56:54 pm
      I thought the VAR review was good, others are right though it's not a quiz. Might be time to not bother as VAR is coming to PL soon.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #363: Apr 10, 2019 09:44:22 pm
      Calm yourself down there lad - i quoted the wrong person , I was actually agreeing with you. Maybe instead of overreacting take a step backwards and check

      I didn’t overreact at all and I’m perfectly calm. No need to take a step back because there’s no way anyone could have thought you quoted the wrong person.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #364: Apr 11, 2019 11:18:21 am
      United not getting away with murder at OT. What's not to love about VAR
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      Reply #365: Apr 11, 2019 11:51:12 am
      I didn’t overreact at all and I’m perfectly calm. No need to take a step back because there’s no way anyone could have thought you quoted the wrong person.

      It appeared to me that your response was a touch aggressive - as I said I was supposed to quote yourself , no big issues.

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