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      lfc across the water
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #450: Aug 21, 2019 12:41:26 pm
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      At the end of the day, makes a distinction between the different forms of the game, which is wrong. Should be the same rules for all whether Prem League, lower league

      Bundesliga 2 has introduced VAR this season. So eventually it will make it's way down the lower divisions in England. I would prefer it to be asap, but it's going to take time to trickle down the ladder. Until then, they will have to put up with the fallout from serious errors, lost points, and lost jobs.

      Back at our level, City have already seen two decisions go against them. So without VAR, they are top of the league again. With VAR, we are top of the league atm. (We are also European Champions and Super Cup winners in the first year it has been used in those competitions) If there is a point separating first from second again at the end of May, it could easily be a VAR call that makes all the difference.
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      Reply #451: Aug 21, 2019 01:14:36 pm
      Bundesliga 2 has introduced VAR this season. So eventually it will make it's way down the lower divisions in England. I would prefer it to be asap, but it's going to take time to trickle down the ladder. Until then, they will have to put up with the fallout from serious errors, lost points, and lost jobs.

      Back at our level, City have already seen two decisions go against them. So without VAR, they are top of the league again. With VAR, we are top of the league atm. (We are also European Champions and Super Cup winners in the first year it has been used in those competitions) If there is a point separating first from second again at the end of May, it could easily be a VAR call that makes all the difference.

      Man City not being on 6 points has more to do with them failing to convert their chances than the soulless VAR.
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      Reply #452: Aug 22, 2019 06:04:46 pm
      Man City not being on 6 points has more to do with them failing to convert their chances than the soulless VAR.

      There's no dichotomy here. It can be both things. To suggest VAR has nothing to do with it would be disingenuous.

      I just hope we remain impartial when VAR ends up costing us goals or points, which it most definitely will at some point in the season. It's just been the case that Man City has been the "victim" lately, but I don't expect this will be a trend. In any case, teams that generate a lot of chances will certainly see more negative calls than teams that generate f**k all, which is to be expected.
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      Reply #453: Aug 22, 2019 06:08:05 pm
      There's no dichotomy here. It can be both things. To suggest VAR has nothing to do with it would be disingenuous.

      I just hope we remain impartial when VAR ends up costing us goals or points, which it most definitely will at some point in the season. It's just been the case that Man City has been the "victim" lately, but I don't expect this will be a trend. In any case, teams that generate a lot of chances will certainly see more negative calls than teams that generate f**k all, which is to be expected.

      That's why I said More to do with.
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      Reply #454: Aug 23, 2019 10:41:34 pm
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      I just hope we remain impartial when VAR ends up costing us goals or points, which it most definitely will at some point in the season.

      Impartial is asking a bit much, but hopefully when it doesn't go our way, it will be when the result is already in the bag. There will be less hot air and noise if the decision is the difference between a 4 and 5 goal win, than the difference between a last minute win and a draw.
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      Reply #455: Aug 26, 2019 12:29:13 am
      VAR is going to be seriously undermined if the penalty Lascelles gave away yesterday is not given.
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      Reply #456: Aug 26, 2019 11:40:47 am
      VAR is going to be seriously undermined if the penalty Lascelles gave away yesterday is not given.

      Didn’t see it as one myself mate Lascelles got tangled In his own feet which took the momentum into Kane and it was only ever slight and Kane was taking ball away from goal. But because he’s a horse faced darling of the press it’s getting a lot of air play.
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      Reply #457: Sep 01, 2019 09:12:30 am
      Watching MOTD from last night - what's the point in VAR if we're not sending Tielemans off for that potential ankle breaker or giving Villa that last minute equaliser?

      Utter shambles really.
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      Reply #458: Sep 01, 2019 11:20:41 am
      Watching MOTD from last night - what's the point in VAR if we're not sending Tielemans off for that potential ankle breaker or giving Villa that last minute equaliser?

      Utter shambles really.

      Keeps on happening. That challenge was as bad as you can get, could have completely shattered his ankle.
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      Reply #459: Sep 01, 2019 02:44:22 pm
      Sigurdson offside on the goal for Everton but VAR doesn’t pick it up. Embarrassing week for VAR, messed up today, in the Newcastle game, Palace game and Bournemouth game.

      No wonder Mr VAR across the water is quiet today.
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      Reply #460: Sep 01, 2019 03:03:39 pm
      Sigurdson offside on the goal for Everton but VAR doesn’t pick it up. Embarrassing week for VAR, messed up today, in the Newcastle game, Palace game and Bournemouth game.

      No wonder Mr VAR across the water is quiet today.

      The operators are the ones to blame. Probably off watching porn.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #461: Sep 01, 2019 11:58:34 pm
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      Sigurdson offside on the goal for Everton but VAR doesn’t pick it up. Embarrassing week for VAR, messed up today, in the Newcastle game, Palace game and Bournemouth game.

      No wonder Mr VAR across the water is quiet today.

      The Everton incident is not offside. The Villa incident is not a VAR issue. The Newcastle incident is an error, the first factual error of the season. It was not picked up until after play resumed, so nothing could be done.

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      Watching MOTD from last night - what's the point in VAR if we're not sending Tielemans off for that potential ankle breaker or giving Villa that last minute equaliser?

      Utter shambles really.

      We've seen similiar tackles get yellows before. VVD v Napoli last year comes to mind. He got suspended for the next game as a result. Unlike Ancelotti, I don't think any of us thought it was more than that. As usual with VAR, when it intervenes, people say it ruins the game and when it doesn't intervene, they ask what's the point? Under Riley's VAR, they're not going to intervene in subjective cases, and that was a subjective case.

      So far, it's worked well imo. While it's not got involved in enough subjective decisions for my liking, it's overturned almost all the factually wrong decisions it has had to, but not slowed the game down to the WWC long delays the sceptics were forecasting. It is also the main reason why we're still top of the league, after ruling out the City ghost goal v Spurs. Without that decision, we're not top. So I'm happy enough with VAR so far.
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      Reply #462: Sep 02, 2019 07:02:31 am
      Why the f**k aren't they using VAR if it's there?
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #463: Sep 13, 2019 06:41:54 pm
      Interesting piece on the BBC Sport website claiming there are at least four decisions that VAR have fu**ed up on so far since the season began.
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      Reply #464: Sep 13, 2019 06:46:44 pm
      VAR is a load of rubbish. The Mancs will always get the decisions. Go back to how it was.
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      Reply #465: Sep 13, 2019 07:23:06 pm
      VAR is a load of rubbish. The Mancs will always get the decisions. Go back to how it was.

      The mancs always got the decisions before VAR too :D
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      Reply #466: Sep 14, 2019 12:33:33 am
      Interesting piece on the BBC Sport website claiming there are at least four decisions that VAR have fu**ed up on so far since the season began.

      Nah, lfc across the water says that VAR made the decision so therefore must be the correct one.
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      Reply #467: Sep 14, 2019 11:30:45 am
      Nah, lfc across the water says that VAR made the decision so therefore must be the correct one.

       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: 
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      Reply #468: Sep 14, 2019 05:02:16 pm
      VARce.
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      Reply #469: Sep 14, 2019 05:23:41 pm
      The level of ability the VAR has within the current English guidelines will mean very few decisions being over turned other than offsides.

      It has to be absolutely stone wall wrong to the point of the offender having to be charged with GBH before the VAR will over rule a referee who doesn't give a pen,  and about a foot of contact away from contact for a ref who does award a pen before replays showing it was a dive before they over rule him the other way too.

      It's very poor in its current guise and it smacks of referees who are too insecure to put the good of the game, and the accuracy of decisions ahead of their damaged egos if a they are proven wrong.

      As a result we are seeing defenders still getting away with murder.

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      Reply #470: Sep 14, 2019 07:46:48 pm
      How was a pen not given today against City.

      Absolute joke of how VAR has been utilized so far.
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      Reply #471: Sep 14, 2019 07:57:43 pm
      That Joel Matip decision.

      Might as well not bother with VAR if even the simplest of decisions are going to be ignored. Stone waller pen from my view in the kop.
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      Reply #472: Sep 14, 2019 08:03:25 pm
      So basically once again, VAR is on the whole, a joke.
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      Reply #473: Sep 14, 2019 10:29:28 pm
      So basically once again, VAR is on the whole, a joke.

      LFCAW thinkd VAR got it right  :lmao:
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      Reply #474: Sep 15, 2019 01:08:41 am
      What's the f**king point of VAR?

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