VAR

If there was no VAR last weekend, that offside decision stands, that game v Chelsea finishes 2-2, we've lost 2 points, the 100% record is gone, and there's a 15 page post match inquiry, of how crap the team is and all the reasons why we'll never win the league. And that's before the public reaction, outside of here.

Thankfully we now have VAR protection, so the ghost goal was ruled out, we won the game, our 5 point lead was restored, and there's peace and quiet again. Until at least the next game.

Yet you once again have your head so far up your VAR arse that you fail to mention how the failure of VAR to give us a clear penalty could easily have cost us 2 points vs Sheffield United. Which had it not been for a blunder by the keeper, would have done. You bang on time and time again about how we end up gaining 2 points because of VAR overturning an offside goal but never mention how it so nearly cost us 2 points.

You’re a f**king narrow minded and tinted glasses hypocrite.

Oh and the chelsea goal was ruled out for what would have been 1-1. If you are going to try and use facts to back up your rubbish support of VAR then at least get them right.

Again not used when needed to be. Penalty all day long to Sadio.

I think only one player appealed for it, Mane. We had stronger cases for penalties than that before and nothing was done. Nobody else has got any penalties either. I have given up looking for VAR to give penalties by now, it's clear that they're not going to intervene in the EPL. The "high bar" prevents any VAR ref from stepping in, and they've been told not to go to watch the footage. Therefore, it's restricted to handballs by forwards and offsides only. The easy decisions.

So much for it settling age old arguments and improving the game.

Taking timekeeping out of the ref's hands would have had a more beneficial influence on the game.

Miking up the refs and broadcasting the discussion would help a great deal. Shame I believe the FA and referees are to cowardly to implement that

I think only one player appealed for it, Mane. We had stronger cases for penalties than that before and nothing was done. Nobody else has got any penalties either. I have given up looking for VAR to give penalties by now, it's clear that they're not going to intervene in the EPL. The "high bar" prevents any VAR ref from stepping in, and they've been told not to go to watch the footage. Therefore, it's restricted to handballs by forwards and offsides only. The easy decisions.

Stop changing the narrative to suit your agenda. Last season you were doing a quiz on what would have been changed and how it would have impacted the game and the penalty we weren’t given yesterday you would have said how it would have been given and we would have gone 1-0 up sooner.

But like we all said about your stupid quiz at the time, it was all hypothetical because you don’t account for the morons in charge of it and you haven’t actually got a clue what would or wouldn’t be looked at.

You saying you’ve given up on penalties is laughable after your big speeches and quizzes how VAR would right all them wrongs.

That penalty for Mane yesterday was as clear as the foul on Matip, that also wasn't given.

It seems the powers that be are so keen to protect refs, they're not implementing VAR properly.

What's the F***ing use of it, if it doesn't flag up 2 clear penalties.

you fail to mention how the failure of VAR to give us a clear penalty could easily have cost us 2 points vs Sheffield United. Which had it not been for a blunder by the keeper, would have done. You bang on time and time again about how we end up gaining 2 points because of VAR overturning an offside goal but never mention how it so nearly cost us 2 points.

Oh and the chelsea goal was ruled out for what would have been 1-1. If you are going to try and use facts to back up your  support of VAR then at least get them right.

I did get them right. Both sides scored one goal each after the VAR incident. Therefore if VAR did nothing about it, the result would be 2-2, and all the fallout that goes with it.

On the latest penalty incident, that would probably be given, without the high bar. But there is a high bar, so a VAR is not going to step in. It's a subjective call. If they're not going to give a penalty for clear drag backs in the box, they're not going to for the Mane call.

The "hypothetical" quiz was on the basis that there would be no restrictions on the use of VAR. That's how it is usually implemented. Not in this league however.

Miking up the refs and broadcasting the discussion would help a great deal. Shame I believe the FA and referees are to cowardly to implement that

They can't implement it. IFAB don't allow it, as of this time.

I did get them right. Both sides scored one goal each after the VAR incident. Therefore if VAR did nothing about it, the result would be 2-2, and all the fallout that goes with it.

It would have been a very different game had the goal counted in the first half, you have no clue it would have finished 2-2. Unless you have a crystal ball?

On the latest penalty incident, that would probably be given, without the high bar. But there is a high bar, so a VAR is not going to step in. It's a subjective call. If they're not going to give a penalty for clear drag backs in the box, they're not going to for the Mane call.

The "hypothetical" quiz was on the basis that there would be no restrictions on the use of VAR. That's how it is usually implemented. Not in this league however.

Stop making excuses.

I'm not making excuses, I'm dealing in facts. VAR is all about facts, and is only making decisions in this league on a factual basis. Subjective calls are left to the ref on the pitch to decide, as they always were.

We don't know how different, if at all, the Chelsea game would have been. What we do know is, the ghost goal had to be ruled out for offside, and it was. We also know that both sides scored one goal each afterwards. They are the facts of the situation.

That penalty for Mane yesterday was as clear as the foul on Matip, that also wasn't given.

It seems the powers that be are so keen to protect refs, they're not implementing VAR properly.

What's the f**king use of it, if it doesn't flag up 2 clear penalties.

Yep the Premier League might as well just come out and say they're only using it for handballs and offsides.

Seems that Var has been a complete shambles today what is the point if it’s not going to be properly used , made a mockery of it today ,

First trip to the toxic dump tomorrow, with VAR protection.

While penalty calls will still be up to Atkinson on the field, at least offside calls will be accurate. So the kind of goal, as given for them there against us in 2014, will not stand now. Let's see what difference it makes.

with VAR protection.

What the f**k is this sh*t? It has been an absolute shambles once again this weekend. Dig your head out the sand for Christ sake, it’s embarrassing.

First trip to the toxic dump tomorrow, with VAR protection.

While penalty calls will still be up to Atkinson on the field, at least offside calls will be accurate. So the kind of goal, as given for them there against us in 2014, will not stand now. Let's see what difference it makes.

Be serious. Just acknowledge VAR has been a shitshow in terms of how it’s been implemented in the prem.

Can’t take you seriously at all, you’d argue your point at all costs no matter the evidence against it, no better than a flat earth believer.

First trip to the toxic dump tomorrow, with VAR protection.

While penalty calls will still be up to Atkinson on the field, at least offside calls will be accurate. So the kind of goal, as given for them there against us in 2014, will not stand now. Let's see what difference it makes.

So doesn't apply to them either then?

First trip to the toxic dump tomorrow, with VAR protection.

While penalty calls will still be up to Atkinson on the field, at least offside calls will be accurate. So the kind of goal, as given for them there against us in 2014, will not stand now. Let's see what difference it makes.

Youv'e lost the plot re VAR.. its been a shambles. Isn't it time you took the rose tinited glasses  off

Youv'e lost the plot re VAR.. its been a shambles. Isn't it time you took the rose tinited glasses  off

How ya honestly feeling about the game keith ?

How ya honestly feeling about the game keith ?

sh*te 

Sh*te 

Don’t worry, you’ll feel better after we’ve got Ole the sack for you

with VAR protection.

What was that?! Can shove VAR up your arse

Just another form of cheating

First trip to the toxic dump tomorrow, with VAR protection.

While penalty calls will still be up to Atkinson on the field, at least offside calls will be accurate. So the kind of goal, as given for them there against us in 2014, will not stand now. Let's see what difference it makes.

Yeah, really F***ing helpful isnt it.

F***ing useless w*nk system

VAR is proving to be horseshit

Waiting on the var press secretary.....