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      fields of anny rd
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #90: Apr 13, 2018 05:29:58 pm
      Not being used in the prem next season. Probably on reflection the right call.
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      Reply #91: Apr 13, 2018 07:17:18 pm
      You'll be getting plenty of those as we've yet to see/find the perfect referee.

      I don't want the perfect referee, I love mistakes in the game, be it from the players, the managers or the refs. Just wish more fans felt the same. The biggest change we could, and should, make, at present, is to take the timekeeping out of the refs hands.
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      Reply #92: Apr 13, 2018 07:36:42 pm
      FIFA say VAR has a 98.9% rate for getting the right decision, so it works, and therefore the other major leagues are prepared to go with it for next season.

      The EPL have decided that they want a safe haven for cheats, divers, and refereeing errors to thrive, when they finally got the chance to get rid of them.

      VAR won't be going away anytime. It will be back on the agenda every year until it's finally adopted.
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      Reply #93: Apr 14, 2018 12:21:50 am
      FIFA say VAR has a 98.9% rate for getting the right decision, so it works, and therefore the other major leagues are prepared to go with it for next season.

      The EPL have decided that they want a safe haven for cheats, divers, and refereeing errors to thrive, when they finally got the chance to get rid of them.

      VAR won't be going away anytime. It will be back on the agenda every year until it's finally adopted.

      FIFA also say they aren't corrupt 😉

      Let's hope every year we tell the agenda to f**k off
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      Reply #94: Apr 14, 2018 08:38:48 pm
      Come back and tell us that, after we get shafted by crap refs at the toilet again next year, and see how far it gets you. Or City. Or Spurs fans pretending to be lino's. Or offsides given as goals at Watford, or somewhere else. Because it will happen again, and when it does, we'll be wondering why we couldn't do something about it when we had the chance. :-[

      That incompetence was supposed to be cut out of the league next year. Because of the backward step taken, refereeing will still be stuck in the stone age next season, while Ligue 1, La Liga, and Bundesliga refs have all the resources necessary to get things right, come August.

      So we will only have it available in the cups, until those with the power to change things, get a grip and bring refereeing into the 21st Century.
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      Reply #95: Apr 14, 2018 09:17:55 pm
      Couldn't give a f**k

      Human error and natural variances make the game what it is and gas been for over 100 years
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      Reply #96: Apr 14, 2018 10:58:02 pm
      Couldn't give a f**k

      Human error and natural variances make the game what it is and gas been for over 100 years

      You shouldn’t celebrate incompetence
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      Reply #97: Apr 15, 2018 03:30:13 am
      Couldn't give a f**k

      Human error and natural variances make the game what it is and gas been for over 100 years
      You would care if it cost us a trophy.
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      Reply #98: Apr 15, 2018 02:31:57 pm
      You would care if it cost us a trophy.

      That's where you're wrong. Mistakes are a part of what I love about the game. I like the fallibility of referees, players and managers. We don't need to change to VAR, we need to alter the mindset of the absolute idiots that think refs are regularly biased and have to get everything right.
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      Reply #99: Apr 15, 2018 03:27:13 pm
      You would care if it cost us a trophy.

      It helped us by not being implemented not conceding a goal against City :laugh:
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      Reply #100: Apr 15, 2018 07:03:57 pm
      That bitter c**t Wenger after they lost today saying VAR is necessary because all big games this season have been decided by refereeing mistakes ‘including man city vs Liverpool’.

      I f**king hate that bitter, old, irrelevant gobs***e! He will still be blaming everyone else when he relegates the cu*ts.
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      Reply #101: Apr 15, 2018 11:06:12 pm
      That bitter c**t Wenger after they lost today saying VAR is necessary because all big games this season have been decided by refereeing mistakes ‘including man city vs Liverpool’.

      I f**king hate that bitter, old, irrelevant gobs***e! He will still be blaming everyone else when he relegates the cu*ts.

      The same man who was blasting VAR in January when it didn't go his way. F***ing pr**k.
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      Reply #102: Apr 15, 2018 11:15:17 pm
      It's not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but it's better than the serial incompetent clowns we see blundering around most weeks
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      Reply #103: Apr 16, 2018 02:48:06 pm
      As Magillionaire says, you shouldn't celebrate incompetence. I can't think of another profession or walk of life where incompetence is accepted and excused. Where it exists, you want it to be better, to eliminate mistakes, cheating, and/or wrongdoing.

      We will suffer because of the vote, there's no getting away from that, numerous times. It could be a cup final, a league decider, a playoff, an away goal, anything. But it will happen and it shouldn't. Referees in the league today make major decisions that they hope are right. And they're only told that they're not when there's nothing they can do about it, allowing injustices to fester. They all want VAR and clubs have been calling for it every time they've been cheated down the years. Last week they finally got their chance to do something about it, because every player should walk off that pitch knowing that the correct decision has been made and justice has been done, however long it takes.

      Bring on the World Cup so, and let's see how it should be done.
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      Reply #104: Apr 30, 2018 09:47:09 am
      We already have VAR ......varying.arsehole.r eferees.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #105: May 01, 2018 12:58:00 am
      13 specialised VAR officials just chosen to give the final yay or nay, to major incidents at the World Cup.

      Number of English referees: 0 There's a reason for that.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #106: Jun 13, 2018 05:02:20 pm
      Quote from Roddenberry
      That's where you're wrong. Mistakes are a part of what I love about the game. I like the fallibility of referees, players and managers. We don't need to change to VAR, we need to alter the mindset of the absolute idiots that think refs are regularly biased and have to get everything right.

      Ramos v Salah. Did you like that?

      If that happens in the World Cup, the player responsible will be dismissed, even in the unlikely event that the ref doesn't cop it at the time. Straight red cards can be issued for serious foul play, even after play has resumed.

      There will also be less offside decisions given on the pitch. Unless the offside is clear as day, lino's have been advised to keep their flags down, and let VAR determine whether tight calls that lead to significant incidents, are offside or not. Which is fair enough.

      Fans will see VAR reviews in stadiums, and broadcasters will be told why a decision is being reviewed. It's obviously easier for English speakers, as all ref communication will be in English. As is standard procedure at VAR games, all major decisions made on the pitch are provisional until VAR confirms it. Goals will be awarded and ruled out, penalties will be awarded and overturned, and fair play will be the biggest winner at the World Cup.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #107: Jun 16, 2018 12:31:04 pm
      Still seems inconsistent and if I'm honest I don't think it will improve the game.
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      Reply #108: Jun 16, 2018 12:44:01 pm
      Foul by defender on forward in penalty area = penalty.

      Correct decision.
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      Reply #109: Jun 16, 2018 01:03:49 pm
      Foul by defender on forward in penalty area = penalty.

      Correct decision.

      Harsh at best, Griezzman went down like he'd been shot.

      VAR is diluting the passion of the game as well, look at the muted celebrations. Embrace it all you want, but it's still a load of sh*te in my opinion.

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      Reply #110: Jun 16, 2018 01:04:20 pm
      Even though he got the ball.. ?
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      Reply #111: Jun 16, 2018 01:09:34 pm
      Even though he got the ball.. ?

      Think the defenders slide challenge just missed the ball, trailing leg caught the back of Griezmann, as I said it just felt a harsh pen to give.
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      Reply #112: Jun 16, 2018 01:11:43 pm
      I didnt like the call but then again I am biased.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #113: Jun 16, 2018 01:17:17 pm
      The trailing foot catches the forward on the heel. That is all that's needed to justify the decision. It would be a free kick anywhere else on the pitch.
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      Reply #114: Jun 16, 2018 01:38:20 pm
      Foul by defender on forward in penalty area = penalty.

      Correct decision.

      I love your passion on VAR.  ;D You simply won't knock it under any circumstances  :lmao:
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      Reply #115: Jun 16, 2018 01:51:45 pm
      The trailing foot catches the forward on the heel. That is all that's needed to justify the decision. It would be a free kick anywhere else on the pitch.

      Behave, might as well just rename the sport Basketball and have no contact between players whatsoever!!
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      Reply #116: Jun 16, 2018 02:00:36 pm
      Think the defenders slide challenge just missed the ball, trailing leg caught the back of Griezmann, as I said it just felt a harsh pen to give.

      There is an angle which confirms the touch on the ball.. though slight.
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      Reply #117: Jun 16, 2018 02:05:59 pm
      There is an angle which confirms the touch on the ball.. though slight.

      Just seen that on the ITV replay before the Argentina game, as I said I just felt it was a harsh decision to give.
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      Reply #118: Jun 16, 2018 02:21:08 pm
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      I love your passion on VAR.  ;D You simply won't knock it under any circumstances  :lmao:

      It's difficult to knock the correct decision tbh. There's one ref on the pitch, there's 4 others on VAR in the WC. If they all say a decision is x, then I'm going to accept it.

      The ref was looking for contact when he saw the replay. Once he saw it, the decision was made. We've seen similar challenges penalised in earlier, and indeed subsequent games. But because they've been free kicks outside the box, they haven't got any attention.
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      Re: VAR
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