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      Re: VAR
      Reply #759: Jan 10, 2020 10:25:20 pm
      Ball hit his hand in the build up - nothing to do with VAR really more the sh*te new handball rules.

      Still hate VAR though!!
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      Reply #760: Jan 10, 2020 10:36:31 pm
      Ball hit his hand in the build up - nothing to do with VAR really more the sh*te new handball rules.

      Still hate VAR though!!

      it is VAR because the Ref didn't see it and without VAR the goal stands and rightly so. He was running and the ball came of the oppo's head close to him unless you can run with your hands down by your side they were in a natural position and did not move towards the ball. Pathetic rule yet again developed by people who have no idea how badly they are treating the fans they are robbing them
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      Reply #761: Jan 11, 2020 08:50:56 am
      it is VAR because the Ref didn't see it and without VAR the goal stands and rightly so. He was running and the ball came of the oppo's head close to him unless you can run with your hands down by your side they were in a natural position and did not move towards the ball. Pathetic rule yet again developed by people who have no idea how badly they are treating the fans they are robbing them

      What if VAR didn’t exist and the PL had adopted those useless officials behind the goal line.
      One of them spots the handball and disallows the goal. Are you ok because a human being has seen it not a camera?
      It’s the rule that’s at fault not the way the transgression is spotted.


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      Reply #762: Jan 11, 2020 09:42:52 am
      it is VAR because the Ref didn't see it and without VAR the goal stands and rightly so. He was running and the ball came of the oppo's head close to him unless you can run with your hands down by your side they were in a natural position and did not move towards the ball. Pathetic rule yet again developed by people who have no idea how badly they are treating the fans they are robbing them

      The defender clears the ball but Rice handles it back into his path, whether it's intentional or not is irrelevant, if the ball doesn't hit his hand then it wouldn't be a goal.
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      Reply #763: Jan 11, 2020 11:36:42 am
      The defender clears the ball but Rice handles it back into his path, whether it's intentional or not is irrelevant, if the ball doesn't hit his hand then it wouldn't be a goal.

      you get the award for stating the bleedin obvious and completely missing the poin all in one post.
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      Reply #764: Jan 11, 2020 03:03:40 pm
      The defender clears the ball but Rice handles it back into his path, whether it's intentional or not is irrelevant, if the ball doesn't hit his hand then it wouldn't be a goal.

      What happened to ball to hand, because that's what that was last night.
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      Reply #765: Jan 11, 2020 06:18:06 pm
      What happened to ball to hand, because that's what that was last night.

      They've changed the rules so VAR 'works'.
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      Reply #766: Jan 11, 2020 06:32:55 pm
      never in a million years did Hendo handle that VAR should never have been involved I f***in HATE IT
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      Reply #767: Jan 12, 2020 10:47:34 pm
      sick of all these cu*ts calling us liVARpool  ...yeah like since it's been introduced, the only way we have won 20 out of 21 games is because VAR has ruled in our favor.

      Delusional cu*ts!!!
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #768: Jan 17, 2020 11:57:48 pm
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      You go the match to see the ball hit the back of the net. You don't go to watch a F***ing screen say "goal" or "no goal"

      I don't care what other sports do.

      I go to games to see us win, not to see opponents score and beat us because of a wrong decision(s). You are lucky enough to go often, and are now aware that every goal and penalty appeal given/rejected for both sides, is subject to review. You still hand over whatever it costs you to attend these days.

      Watching the recent Sky VAR special on previous Liverpool v manc games in the past, just hammered home again why we need it. From the incidents they showed, we should have had 4 penalties more than we got, they were given 2 more than they should have, while they could have had at least 3 players dismissed for trying out their karate skills on our players, including their current manager, but unfortunately they all stayed on the pitch. All of those were wrong decisions, and obviously we lost some of those games. It's simply not good enough at this level.

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      it is VAR because the Ref didn't see it and without VAR the goal stands and rightly so. He was running and the ball came of the oppo's head close to him unless you can run with your hands down by your side they were in a natural position and did not move towards the ball. Pathetic rule yet again developed by people who have no idea how badly they are treating the fans they are robbing them

      The ghost goal was rightly disallowed.
      We have rules in the sport for a reason. The handball rule about goals scored is now clear as day. As the ref didn't see it, the VAR did what he is required to do as per the laws of the game. It was a great spot, because there's no way Oliver could spot it himself.

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      never in a million years did Hendo handle that VAR should never have been involved I f***in HATE IT

      We know you hate it, not that it will make any difference. VAR is "involved" in every goal, given or not.

      We're amongst the leading clubs this season for VAR decisions going in our favour, but we've had a goal ruled out for the handball rule this season. I didn't like it, but it was the correct decision so I accepted it instantly and got on with the rest of the game. Without VAR we would not have beaten Wolves, Leicester would not have lost to Southampton, along with numerous other results going against us, and we wouldn't have anything near the lead we have now. You could cut the current gap in half for starters, and keep counting. 

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      So the fa are gonna use var in some games in the cup,but not in others?Really are stupid people running the game.

      Same situation as last season. All games from the 6th Round will have VAR in operation.

      Riley has given in to allow limited use of the monitor for red card offences. Oliver used the pitch monitor on the FA Cup weekend, only after giving the initial decision, punishment, and gone through the mandatory VAR check. Most observers said they were happy enough with him using the monitor, as they clearly didn't see the entire 5 minute long stoppage from play being stopped to the player leaving the pitch. Now that was just one incident in one game, if that happens 3-4 times per game every week, you will see people begging for the monitor not to be used, and will see why Riley is so against it.
      « Last Edit: Jan 18, 2020 12:51:16 am by lfc across the water »
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #769: Jan 18, 2020 08:10:03 am
      I go to games to see us win, not to see opponents score and beat us because of a wrong decision(s). You are lucky enough to go often, and are now aware that every goal and penalty appeal given/rejected for both sides, is subject to review. You still hand over whatever it costs you to attend these days.

      Watching the recent Sky VAR special on previous Liverpool v manc games in the past, just hammered home again why we need it. From the incidents they showed, we should have had 4 penalties more than we got, they were given 2 more than they should have, while they could have had at least 3 players dismissed for trying out their karate skills on our players, including their current manager, but unfortunately they all stayed on the pitch. All of those were wrong decisions, and obviously we lost some of those games. It's simply not good enough at this level.

      As I've said time again people will still go & people will still watch but the experience is now nowhere near as good. If one of your uncles or cousins is a bit of a knobhead, you don't refuse to go family parties or christenings, but they make the experience worse for you.

      On the subject of VAR at Utd games - VAR fu**ed us over last time we played Utd (foul on Origi for the 1st goal)
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      Reply #770: Jan 18, 2020 09:13:26 am
      As I've said time again people will still go & people will still watch but the experience is now nowhere near as good. If one of your uncles or cousins is a bit of a knobhead, you don't refuse to go family parties or christenings, but they make the experience worse for you.

      On the subject of VAR at Utd games - VAR fu**ed us over last time we played Utd (foul on Origi for the 1st goal)
      Your wasting your time .
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      Reply #771: Jan 19, 2020 11:59:25 am
      Arsenal game Mike Dean doesn't give a penalty goes to VAR where its clear and obviously a penalty but  Martin f***in Atkinson says no penalty so VAR still hasn't overcome the problem that we have which is sh*t referees
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      Reply #772: Jan 19, 2020 12:14:26 pm
      Arsenal game Mike Dean doesn't give a penalty goes to VAR where its clear and obviously a penalty but  Martin f***in Atkinson says no penalty so VAR still hasn't overcome the problem that we have which is sh*t referees

      He hates VAR as much as some fans do. Which is why he opposes almost every VAR call. He has fear of robots or remote referees taking over his real on the pitch job.
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      Reply #773: Jan 20, 2020 09:30:02 pm
      yesterday
      rules say keeper needs to have ball in control De Gea never had the ball under control VVD jumped for the ball with his arms by his side
      ref never gave it but the tw*ts 100 miles away in the VAR says it a foul
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      Reply #774: Jan 27, 2020 03:59:02 pm
      No VAR again...Robbed again...2nd time this season... :mad: :mad:

      At least normal service will be back for the replay, so they will only get penalties they should get.
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      Reply #775: Jan 27, 2020 04:14:10 pm
      No VAR again...Robbed again...2nd time this season... :mad: :mad:

      At least normal service will be back for the replay, so they will only get penalties they should get.

      Well yes and no because if it was a free kick our full back would probably have been getting an early shower.
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      Reply #776: Jan 27, 2020 06:01:19 pm
      Well yes and no because if it was a free kick our full back would probably have been getting an early shower.

      To be honest he may as well have been sent off for all the good he done after that, completely lost his head and froze. Nearly all he done after that was constantly boot the ball out of play for a throw.
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      Reply #777: Jan 28, 2020 01:14:55 am
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      Well yes and no because if it was a free kick our full back would probably have been getting an early shower.

      And if that happened, I couldn't argue with it, as he would have taken one for the team. Besides, it's easier to defend a free kick than a penalty. But the wrong decision was given, and the tie was completely turned in 10 minutes. We've had 4 games without VAR this season, 2 of them have seen wrong decisions that have led to goals against us.

      We got a blast from the past yesterday. Every game we play in all competitions from now on has VAR, but the human error system has already cost us a cup replay and a load of aggro. We're just lucky it hasn't cost us the cup for yet another year.
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      Reply #778: Jan 28, 2020 02:09:17 am
      And if that happened, I couldn't argue with it, as he would have taken one for the team. Besides, it's easier to defend a free kick than a penalty. But the wrong decision was given, and the tie was completely turned in 10 minutes. We've had 4 games without VAR this season, 2 of them have seen wrong decisions that have led to goals against us.

      We got a blast from the past yesterday. Every game we play in all competitions from now on has VAR, but the human error system has already cost us a cup replay and a load of aggro. We're just lucky it hasn't cost us the cup for yet another year.

      Knock it off, it ain't like the game has significantly changed.

      But what it does show is the stupid F***ing way the FA are using it in the FA Cup. Quite simply if it can't be used in every game of the competition it shouldn't be used at all in the Cups.
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      Reply #779: Jan 28, 2020 03:39:03 am
      Well yes and no because if it was a free kick our full back would probably have been getting an early shower.

      I still thought he cleared the ball first. They didn't show a proper replay of it, The Ref took a few seconds to point to the spot as well.

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      Reply #780: Jan 29, 2020 10:59:38 am
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      Knock it off, it ain't like the game has significantly changed.

      Yes it has. They get their penalty, score it, have momentum, score again soon afterwards, and get their replay. That all comes from the wrong decision given.

      VAR should be in every game, but it's not a case of every game or not at all. No two games are the same.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #781: Jan 29, 2020 11:44:27 am
      Why hasn't everyone got over var yet?

      I understand it gives sky sports news, journalists etc minutes to fill, copy to make but for me I'm quite chilled about it. For quite a while now, quite early in the season really, I just got used to the fact that it was going to have teething troubles, it's here to stay and getting worked up about it was pointless.

      Just think of it as an elongated offside decision, just a bit more accurate. 😉

      Do you reckon it's here to stay?

      Surely it's possible for Premier League clubs to have another vote on it and bin it off? With the vast majority of supporters against it there'll be a lot of pressure put on the clubs to vote to revoke

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