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      Shabs
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1200: May 18, 2021 07:36:37 pm
      VAR taking the piss with a possible offside for Fulham..

      Dodgy angles.. 🙄
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1201: May 18, 2021 08:04:51 pm
      What a shocking decision to allow the utd goal
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1202: May 18, 2021 08:24:50 pm
      VAR taking the piss with a possible offside for Fulham..

      Dodgy angles.. 🙄

      Gary Nev shot his load a bit early agreeing it was offside, only to be corrected by his co-commentator!
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1203: May 19, 2021 09:12:41 am
      Have to take my hat off to Banford last nite for not diving and trying to keep the integrity of the game honest. In what appeared a stone wall penalty if he'd of gone to the ground VAR give a penalty. However, he succeeds to keep his footing and you'd fully expect VAR to give a penalty yet don't  :f_steam:

      VAR just promoting players to dive dive  dive in order to get the penalty. It's impossible to do the right things with these tw@ts running VAR.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1204: May 21, 2021 10:58:11 am
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      How long did that take for the Newcastle penalty LOL. No where near offside when they keep drawing the lines. If that was against West Brom for example that would have taken 0.28 seconds.

      F***ing farcical form of subtle cheating!

      It doesn't matter how long it takes. What matters is the correct decision was reached, in the interests of Fair Play.

      In the Chelsea.v Leicester game, a clear and obvious handball could have been the difference in who qualifies for the top 4 or not, as in our game v Newcastle. It's frankly unbelievable that in 2021, with all the technology used in the sport (as in everyday life) that people still want cheating like that to stand, with all the massive consequences that result. It's like arguing against using air traffic control imo. You may not always agree with what it tells you but you still need it, to help prevent the massive consequences as a result of not having it.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1205: Jun 04, 2021 12:07:51 pm
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1206: Jun 08, 2021 03:59:15 pm
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      Have to take my hat off to Banford last nite for not diving and trying to keep the integrity of the game honest. In what appeared a stone wall penalty if he'd of gone to the ground VAR give a penalty. However, he succeeds to keep his footing and you'd fully expect VAR to give a penalty yet don't  :f_steam:

      VAR just promoting players to dive dive  dive in order to get the penalty. It's impossible to do the right things with VAR.

      Diving = no contact. If he's fouled, he has every right to go down to get a penalty. He decided he would rather score a goal instead, but all he got was a corner. When Mane and Salah go down for a penalty after being fouled, they get called divers. They're just doing the professional thing to do. It's not diving in any way or form.

      VAR doesn't give a penalty anymore. VAR may advise the ref to go and review a challenge in the box, then the video operator in the hub supplies the evidence for the ref to look at pitchside. After that, it's all down to the ref on the field. He is the one who makes those decisions. He has a team on and off the pitch to assist him, (and he will usually go with what he sees on the screen) but he has the authority to ignore them all, if he so wishes.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1207: Jun 10, 2021 10:37:39 pm
      "Premier League to use thicker lines when assessing offside calls next season"

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57435400

      Here's a novel ideal - why not use different referees? David Coote's shambolic and embarrassing afternoon's work during the derby back in October still wrangles with me. And yet we're stuck with people like that. Hand on heart, I think VAR can be used for good as the referees during the 2018 World Cup proved. Back then no English referees were invited to that tournament. You can see why from the last couple of seasons in the Premier League. The standard is appalling. They're not just unfit to use the technology at hand, but some are physically unfit to referee on the field as well. They command absolutely no authority and little if any respect because of how useless they are. It's farcical that someone like Martin Atkinson continues to be put forward by the FA as England's top referee. That guy's just a f**king clown.

      The worst thing is, with VAR operated by these clowns you are seeing their thought processes play out as they edit in real time, live in front of millions of viewers as they shift and squint the lines to fit whatever agenda that want to chicken out of (or out of sheer bias perhaps?) or just out of sheer incompetence. It's a complete horror show. Like watching your nan break dancing.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1208: Jun 11, 2021 09:01:09 am
      "Premier League to use thicker lines when assessing offside calls next season"

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57435400

      Here's a novel ideal - why not use different referees? David Coote's shambolic and embarrassing afternoon's work during the derby back in October still wrangles with me. And yet we're stuck with people like that. Hand on heart, I think VAR can be used for good as the referees during the 2018 World Cup proved. Back then no English referees were invited to that tournament. You can see why from the last couple of seasons in the Premier League. The standard is appalling. They're not just unfit to use the technology at hand, but some are physically unfit to referee on the field as well. They command absolutely no authority and little if any respect because of how useless they are. It's farcical that someone like Martin Atkinson continues to be put forward by the FA as England's top referee. That guy's just a f**king clown.

      The worst thing is, with VAR operated by these clowns you are seeing their thought processes play out as they edit in real time, live in front of millions of viewers as they shift and squint the lines to fit whatever agenda that want to chicken out of (or out of sheer bias perhaps?) or just out of sheer incompetence. It's a complete horror show. Like watching your nan break dancing.

      I just don't know what to make of these new thicker lines. I suppose time will tell but won't be holding my breath with the results. I see the logic but with the fools behind the decisions God only knows.  :f_doh:
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1209: Jun 11, 2021 09:46:42 am
      "Premier League to use thicker lines when assessing offside calls next season"

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57435400

      Here's a novel ideal - why not use different referees? David Coote's shambolic and embarrassing afternoon's work during the derby back in October still wrangles with me. And yet we're stuck with people like that. Hand on heart, I think VAR can be used for good as the referees during the 2018 World Cup proved. Back then no English referees were invited to that tournament. You can see why from the last couple of seasons in the Premier League. The standard is appalling. They're not just unfit to use the technology at hand, but some are physically unfit to referee on the field as well. They command absolutely no authority and little if any respect because of how useless they are. It's farcical that someone like Martin Atkinson continues to be put forward by the FA as England's top referee. That guy's just a f**king clown.

      The worst thing is, with VAR operated by these clowns you are seeing their thought processes play out as they edit in real time, live in front of millions of viewers as they shift and squint the lines to fit whatever agenda that want to chicken out of (or out of sheer bias perhaps?) or just out of sheer incompetence. It's a complete horror show. Like watching your nan break dancing.

      Can understand the rationale but by creating thicker lines are you not making someone onside who was offside 🤔 Be interesting   to see how it pans out
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1210: Jun 11, 2021 12:41:28 pm
      Can understand the rationale but by creating thicker lines are you not making someone onside who was offside 🤔 Be interesting   to see how it pans out

      Basically yes is how I also read it Rossy. Bit like a driving fines whereas if it's between 30/35 they'll let you off.  :lmao:

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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1211: Jun 11, 2021 02:09:37 pm
      "Premier League to use thicker lines when assessing offside calls next season"

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57435400

      Here's a novel ideal - why not use different referees? David Coote's shambolic and embarrassing afternoon's work during the derby back in October still wrangles with me. And yet we're stuck with people like that. Hand on heart, I think VAR can be used for good as the referees during the 2018 World Cup proved. Back then no English referees were invited to that tournament. You can see why from the last couple of seasons in the Premier League. The standard is appalling. They're not just unfit to use the technology at hand, but some are physically unfit to referee on the field as well. They command absolutely no authority and little if any respect because of how useless they are. It's farcical that someone like Martin Atkinson continues to be put forward by the FA as England's top referee. That guy's just a f**king clown.

      The worst thing is, with VAR operated by these clowns you are seeing their thought processes play out as they edit in real time, live in front of millions of viewers as they shift and squint the lines to fit whatever agenda that want to chicken out of (or out of sheer bias perhaps?) or just out of sheer incompetence. It's a complete horror show. Like watching your nan break dancing.

      I've always said the problem is not with VAR, it is with how it is implemented, interpreted and ref'd.

      As my lad likes to say about people who don't use computers very well: "The problem exists between keyboard and chair."
      I think as far as VAR goes, that's pretty f**king apt.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1212: Jun 12, 2021 08:12:16 pm
      Den v Fin

      Are the rules different in the Euros?? Goalkeeper well off his line for the penalty. Aren't they suppose to take it again?

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