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      Keith Singleton
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1587: Nov 28, 2022 01:33:05 pm
      Watching the Korea Rep v Ghana. Can anyone educate  me why that goal was allowed? Fcuked if I know anymore.  :f_doh:
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1588: Nov 30, 2022 07:40:18 pm
      There you see var at its finest fckin shocking to give a pen for that
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      Reply #1589: Nov 30, 2022 08:53:31 pm
      There you see var at its finest fckin shocking to give a pen for that




      I assume mate your on about Poland V Argies, if so, what the f**k was the keeper supposed to do with his hand, he’s flying thru the air to reach the ball, he’s not watching where Messi is, he’s watching the f***in ball, gets enough of a glove on it to push away and ‘accidentally’ brushes Messi’s mush, the ref bottled it when his wee mate in the VAR box told him to take another look, on the monitor, f***in joke decision !!!!

      Karma tho when the wee ginger cnut missed 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 W⚓️
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1590: Dec 01, 2022 11:51:12 pm
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      Watching the Korea Rep v Ghana. Can anyone educate  me why that goal was allowed?

      There was nothing wrong with it. Even Taylor couldn't get that wrong.

      Lots of talk these days that when a ref on the pitch makes a mistake, players accept it. 60 years on and no German accepts that ball crossed the line in the WC final. They probably won't accept that the ball didn't cross the line in Japan v Spain either, but it's the second time in 2 WC tournaments that a VAR call has put them out at the group stage. Millimetres matter and make the difference at the highest level of the sport, so that justice is done.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1591: Dec 02, 2022 12:35:47 pm
      Spain V Japan:
      There isn't the technology at the World Cup which could show 100% that the ball had/hadn't crossed the line. Just because there is a frame
       (presumably at 24FPS) that shows the defenders foot in contact with the ball with a slither of the circumference of the ball aligned with the line that doesn't guarantee that the ball went back towards the field of play in that frame. And because it's nigh on impossible to know, the ref's original call can't be a clear and obvious error.
      Also last night in Germany V Costa Rica there was an incident were the ball crossed the line a good foot and a half and yet wasn't seen by the officials.
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      Reply #1592: Dec 09, 2022 11:42:22 pm
      It's not a clear and obvious error, it's factual. In/Out. With the sensors in the ball, the technology is there to prove that all of the ball did not cross all of the line.

      People mostly forget that the decision also impacted on Spain in the game and the group. But if it was taken by the eye, then that would have fuelled the usual conspiracy theories that FIFA only want the big teams to get decisions. Not only has the VAR got to deal with that, but also check the rest of the move so that the goal is valid. That's why it takes as long as it does.

      While most people seemed happy to see Germany go out when they did, I always spare a thought for Jürgen in those circumstances. He's as passionate about the fate of his country at these tournaments just like everyone else should be about theirs.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1593: Dec 10, 2022 12:52:09 pm
      Can't technology F**k up?

      Sure I saw a F**k up with the first no crowd game during the pandemic between Villa and Sheff Utd regarding the ball crossing the goal line.

      So to be like soft arse and totally rely on technology is F***ing stupid.

      Refs and linesman still have eyes and a voice, they could try using that than being lazy bas**rds and relying on technology to do their job.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1594: Dec 13, 2022 11:57:02 pm
      What’s worse…
      Players diving and getting ridiculous decisions (pre var)
      Or players going down theatrically after the faintest of touches knowing var will deem it a penalty?

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      Reply #1595: Dec 14, 2022 01:52:01 pm
      What’s worse…
      Players diving and getting ridiculous decisions (pre var)
      Or players going down theatrically after the faintest of touches knowing var will deem it a penalty?



      After platers going down throught faintest of touches and the latest one which is immediately start holding your head.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1596: Dec 19, 2022 10:10:57 am
      What’s worse…
      Players diving and getting ridiculous decisions (pre var)
      Or players going down theatrically after the faintest of touches knowing var will deem it a penalty?

      The first is far worse for me.  There's a big difference between no touch and the faintest of touches. 

      At least in the latter case even VAR has to recognise it has to be a significant enough touch to impact the attackers motion.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1597: Dec 19, 2022 10:59:32 pm
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      Can't technology F**k up?

      Sure I saw a F**k up with the first no crowd game during the pandemic between Villa and Sheff Utd regarding the ball crossing the goal line.

      So to be like soft arse and totally rely on technology is F***ing stupid.

      Refs and linesman still have eyes and a voice, they could try using that than being lazy bas**rds and relying on technology to do their job.

      You saw one error with GLT in the past 10 EPL seasons. How many major refereeing errors have we seen in that time?

      The Southampton game was the first one of our games I was at, with the use of VAR. Not having the benefit of replays, I thought at the time that their goal and our last goal was tight on the offside. So I celebrated the Nunez goal, then waited for the confirmation for the ref, then continued celebrating. It was fine, not the ruining the game experience that everyone else says it is.
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      Reply #1598: Dec 19, 2022 11:22:44 pm
      You saw one error with GLT in the past 10 EPL seasons. How many major refereeing errors have we seen in that time?

      The Southampton game was the first one of our games I was at, with the use of VAR. Not having the benefit of replays, I thought at the time that their goal and our last goal was tight on the offside. So I celebrated the Nunez goal, then waited for the confirmation for the ref, then continued celebrating. It was fine, not the ruining the game experience that everyone else says it is.
      A lot of what we term refereeing errors are in fact just biased judgements we make to suit our preferred outcome. If the call favours your team then it's the right call, if your team suffers due to the call, then it stinks and the ref got it wrong. We generally accept  they go either way...on balance. However once technology is introduced to eradicate human error, then it has to work 100%...not 99%. As soon as it has failed even once ( Your GLT example) then how can it be trusted to be correct at all?
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1599: Dec 20, 2022 07:38:26 pm
      So I celebrated the Nunez goal, then waited for the confirmation for the ref, then continued celebrating. It was fine, not the ruining the game experience that everyone else says it is.

      Good for you. The rest of us match going fans still think it's sh*t though.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1600: Dec 21, 2022 04:37:18 pm
      In general totally unacceptable for footie fans, needs an urgent rethink, or be totally scrapped !
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1601: Dec 21, 2022 06:43:55 pm
      In general totally unacceptable for footie fans, needs an urgent rethink, or be totally scrapped !
      I suspect you're right in thinking the majority of fans preferred the game pre VAR....I've said it before, it was well intentioned, but in practice it's made watching the game much worse. It creates as many arguments as it supposedly fixes...Truly tiresome.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1602: Dec 21, 2022 11:00:55 pm
      Quote from Longy-Shops
      A lot of what we term refereeing errors are in fact just biased judgements we make to suit our preferred outcome. If the call favours your team then it's the right call, if your team suffers due to the call, then it stinks and the ref got it wrong. We generally accept  they go either way...on balance. However once technology is introduced to eradicate human error, then it has to work 100%...not 99%. As soon as it has failed even once ( Your GLT example) then how can it be trusted to be correct at all?

      We know why the GLT failed in that game. It was a freak incident that has never happened before or since, so we can trust the technology. It's not even a VAR issue either.

      Three games this year against City, we've seen why VAR is essential. Unfortunately, tomorrow we have no VAR protection. They will be throwing themselves on the floor every couple of minutes appealing for penalties as usual, and many offside calls will be tight. So it will be no consolation to say any wrong decisions will even itself out, because it won't get us back in the cup and in this day and age, it's just not good enough at this level.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1603: Dec 22, 2022 09:13:14 am
      Premier League video assistant referees have made six incorrect interventions this season - and also missed another six incidents when they should have stepped in.

      A five-person independent panel was introduced this season to conduct a weekly review of Key Match Incidents (KMI) for all top-flight games.

      BBC Sport understands the panel has gone through hundreds of incidents and identified 48 situations when VAR needed to get involved, with 42 correct decisions made.

      However, it found six incidents were missed completely and on another six occasions, VAR overturned on-field decisions that had initially been right.

      It is not known what the individual decisions were but the Premier League's newly appointed chief refereeing officer, Howard Webb, is determined to improve standards.

      Given the time he spent in Major League Soccer (MLS), where VAR has been in use since 2017, it is no surprise Webb, who refereed the 2010 World Cup final, is an advocate of the system.

      However, he does realise its implementation in the English game has not gone smoothly.

      It is understood a new VAR coach, Phil Bentham, whose background is in rugby league, has now been appointed and that Webb intends to visit all top-flight clubs and some in the Football League early in the new year to discuss officiating within the game as a whole.


      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64057906
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      Reply #1604: Dec 22, 2022 09:35:33 am
      Premier League video assistant referees have made six incorrect interventions this season - and also missed another six incidents when they should have stepped in.

      A five-person independent panel was introduced this season to conduct a weekly review of Key Match Incidents (KMI) for all top-flight games.

      BBC Sport understands the panel has gone through hundreds of incidents and identified 48 situations when VAR needed to get involved, with 42 correct decisions made.

      However, it found six incidents were missed completely and on another six occasions, VAR overturned on-field decisions that had initially been right.

      It is not known what the individual decisions were but the Premier League's newly appointed chief refereeing officer, Howard Webb, is determined to improve standards.

      Given the time he spent in Major League Soccer (MLS), where VAR has been in use since 2017, it is no surprise Webb, who refereed the 2010 World Cup final, is an advocate of the system.

      However, he does realise its implementation in the English game has not gone smoothly.

      It is understood a new VAR coach, Phil Bentham, whose background is in rugby league, has now been appointed and that Webb intends to visit all top-flight clubs and some in the Football League early in the new year to discuss officiating within the game as a whole.


      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64057906

      F***ing Howard Webb.

      The baldy little tw*t
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1605: Dec 22, 2022 10:28:34 am
      F***ing Howard Webb.

      The baldy little tw*t

      He's identified 6 penalties that Man U should have had!!
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      Reply #1606: Dec 22, 2022 11:14:29 am
      Premier League video assistant referees have made six incorrect interventions this season - and also missed another six incidents when they should have stepped in.

      A five-person independent panel was introduced this season to conduct a weekly review of Key Match Incidents (KMI) for all top-flight games.

      BBC Sport understands the panel has gone through hundreds of incidents and identified 48 situations when VAR needed to get involved, with 42 correct decisions made.

      However, it found six incidents were missed completely and on another six occasions, VAR overturned on-field decisions that had initially been right.

      It is not known what the individual decisions were but the Premier League's newly appointed chief refereeing officer, Howard Webb, is determined to improve standards.

      Given the time he spent in Major League Soccer (MLS), where VAR has been in use since 2017, it is no surprise Webb, who refereed the 2010 World Cup final, is an advocate of the system.

      However, he does realise its implementation in the English game has not gone smoothly.

      It is understood a new VAR coach, Phil Bentham, whose background is in rugby league, has now been appointed and that Webb intends to visit all top-flight clubs and some in the Football League early in the new year to discuss officiating within the game as a whole.


      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64057906

      kinell can see Man U winning a few league titles with that tw*t around
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      Reply #1607: Dec 26, 2022 12:45:52 am
      He's identified 6 penalties that Man U should have had!!


       :lmao: :lmao:

      Spot on...fkn Webb c**t!
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1608: Feb 12, 2023 08:25:40 am
      Absolute shambles of a day for VAR yesterday.

      Soucek handball, Brentford not getting their early goal, the clear offside for their equaliser and then the disallowed Brighton goal.

      Until the referees can use it properly just sack this sh*te off. At least before when they made mistakes we could sweep it under the carpet and say it was a split second decision etc. and all move on.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #1609: Feb 12, 2023 10:22:17 am
      Absolute shambles of a day for VAR yesterday.

      Soucek handball, Brentford not getting their early goal, the clear offside for their equaliser and then the disallowed Brighton goal.

      Until the referees can use it properly just sack this sh*te off. At least before when they made mistakes we could sweep it under the carpet and say it was a split second decision etc. and all move on.
      As long as there is ANY human interpretation, ALL the judgements made will be subject to error.

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