Manc's biggest rival for Yank Reds?

I had this discussion with some other Reds supporters here in the US. Traditionally for those in Liverpool its always going to be the Blues. But that is based simply on geography and the century old rivalry between neighbors and divided families and just the whole history of
LFC V EFC.

We dont necessarily have the hatred for Everton that we have for United.its the arrogance of a plastic Manc which really gets to us true hardcore LFC upporters. The Chants about winning the league is just so fake and vapid its maddening.

But here i truly believe its the Mancs, 100%. The bandwagon, plastic Manc supporters who constantly talk sh*t about the titles under that whiskey soaked douchbag Ferguson and the no nothing Yank supporters who just glommed onto the Manc shitheads, who didnt know sh*t about Football but bought the Beckham tops and scarves and banners.

True football supporters and those who follow the league every week, FA Cups, UCL  and are the most knowledgeable are usually Liverpool. We have 5 times more supporters for Liverpool. We sing in the pubs and their have even been a few pub bust ups during the Manc/Reds matches.

Im curious if my other US Reds agree.

I had this discussion with some other Reds supporters here in the US. Traditionally for those in Liverpool its always going to be the Blues. But that is based simply on geography and the century old rivalry between neighbors and divided families and just the whole history of
LFC V EFC.

We dont necessarily have the hatred for Everton that we have for United.its the arrogance of a plastic Manc which really gets to us true hardcore LFC upporters. The Chants about winning the league is just so fake and vapid its maddening.

But here i truly believe its the Mancs, 100%. The bandwagon, plastic Manc supporters who constantly talk sh*t about the titles under that whiskey soaked douchbag Ferguson and the no nothing Yank supporters who just glommed onto the Manc shitheads, who didnt know sh*t about Football but bought the Beckham tops and scarves and banners.

True football supporters and those who follow the league every week, FA Cups, UCL  and are the most knowledgeable are usually Liverpool. We have 5 times more supporters for Liverpool. We sing in the pubs and their have even been a few pub bust ups during the Manc/Reds matches.

Im curious if my other US Reds agree.

I'd hardly call Everton rivals. They're not good enough. Not far off relegation battle.

Beating Everton will probably always provide the most enjoyment in the weeks/months after a game but I'd imagine if you don't live in Liverpool it's unlikely you work or socialise with other Evertonians so not just USA but I'd imagine most other fans around the world - they class United as the biggest rivals.

Mancheater United is our biggest away game. Into the infested den. Mourinho did well getting Sanchez and he has shook them up.So this will be a very hard game. Our defense will be tested to the limit. Lets see how they cope.

Our pace on the break will give them nightmares. Salah has played closer to Firmino in the last 8-10 games or so. These two will be our matchwinners. Expect Mourinho to target Salah. We now have a 7 point lead over 5th place Chelsea but we might need every point to secure top 4.

I think Karius will need to show he really is No.1. He has done well since taking over from Mig. Crucial for him to cope well with it.

1-1.....1-2....very little in it.

I had this discussion with some other Reds supporters here in the US. Traditionally for those in Liverpool its always going to be the Blues. But that is based simply on geography and the century old rivalry between neighbors and divided families and just the whole history of
LFC V EFC.

We dont necessarily have the hatred for Everton that we have for United.its the arrogance of a plastic Manc which really gets to us true hardcore LFC upporters. The Chants about winning the league is just so fake and vapid its maddening.

But here i truly believe its the Mancs, 100%. The bandwagon, plastic Manc supporters who constantly talk sh*t about the titles under that whiskey soaked douchbag Ferguson and the no nothing Yank supporters who just glommed onto the Manc shitheads, who didnt know sh*t about Football but bought the Beckham tops and scarves and banners.

True football supporters and those who follow the league every week, FA Cups, UCL  and are the most knowledgeable are usually Liverpool. We have 5 times more supporters for Liverpool. We sing in the pubs and their have even been a few pub bust ups during the Manc/Reds matches.

Im curious if my other US Reds agree.

Your hardcore for sure. But we generally refer to Chelsea as the Plastics after they dished out plastic flags to their fans. Plus the fact that Abramovich, their Russian owner, started his career making and selling plastic toys and general plastic crap.

But it's great we have support over the pond. I'm going to New York from here in N.Ireland late March. Going to wear all my LFC stuff all over the City.

Top 4 looking more assured after Chelsea lost to M.City today. They play Crystal Palace next week. At home, whilst we destroy M.United. Great season so far with Mo Salah having a great first season. Coping well with the loss of Coutinho. Andy Robinson having a great first season as well. A great buy from Hull City and a great spot by our scouts.

Good luck, enjoy the rest of the season.

I had this discussion with some other Reds supporters here in the US. Traditionally for those in Liverpool its always going to be the Blues. But that is based simply on geography and the century old rivalry between neighbors and divided families and just the whole history of
LFC V EFC.

We dont necessarily have the hatred for Everton that we have for United.its the arrogance of a plastic Manc which really gets to us true hardcore LFC upporters. The Chants about winning the league is just so fake and vapid its maddening.

But here i truly believe its the Mancs, 100%. The bandwagon, plastic Manc supporters who constantly talk sh*t about the titles under that whiskey soaked douchbag Ferguson and the no nothing Yank supporters who just glommed onto the Manc shitheads, who didnt know sh*t about Football but bought the Beckham tops and scarves and banners.

True football supporters and those who follow the league every week, FA Cups, UCL  and are the most knowledgeable are usually Liverpool. We have 5 times more supporters for Liverpool. We sing in the pubs and their have even been a few pub bust ups during the Manc/Reds matches.

Im curious if my other US Reds agree.

 

It's all a bit diluted and contrived over here to me.Sharing bars with teams ya supposed to hate doesn't work for me.I've not watched us play united at a bar for years cos of the dumbassed big game types it attracts.Outside of game days it really doesn't matter.Maybe it's more of an age thing for me i guess,but the uber gotta support the team man can be annoying as hell,i don't have as high opinion of lfcboston so maybe that's tinted my opinion.... i'll sit and have a beer with anyone just don't be a dickhead.

 

It's all a bit diluted and contrived over here to me.Sharing bars with teams ya supposed to hate doesn't work for me.I've not watched us play united at a bar for years cos of the dumbassed big game types it attracts.Outside of game days it really doesn't matter.Maybe it's more of an age thing for me i guess,but the uber gotta support the team man can be annoying as hell,i don't have as high opinion of lfcboston so maybe that's tinted my opinion.... i'll sit and have a beer with anyone just don't be a dickhead.

You'll get a lot of posers who seem desperate to prove their supporter bona fides, and that can make viewing at a bar rather unenjoyable. The LFC club in my town is pretty decent in comparison, despite that I usually watch at home.

I can't change the fact that I was born in America and thus didn't have a natural-born interest in an English club (my mother's family are from Scotland and apparently supported Rangers, but even that fact I only learned about later in life when I developed an interest in football), but my own interest in the club has been cultivated over the past 20 years since my first visit to Anfield. At some point I quit worrying about whether someone from UK thinks my support of the club is legitimate. I'll never have some of the childhood and cultural experiences that you are privileged to have shared with loved ones over the years, but I know supporting this team is the thing I think about when I am not occupied with work or family (and sometimes even then).

The OP is correct that Man United was the ascendant team as the game became popular over here, and thus the default team for many of those "fans" - but those fans' support tend to be a mile wide and an inch deep. I've seen it for Arsenal, City, Spurs and Chelsea as well in the last 5-10 years. I notice it with kids in UK as well though, ,or with Bayern Munich in  Germany - they support the club(s) who are near the top of the table. In the same way, you don't find many/any American supporters of Stoke City or Burnley.

Not American (N.Ireland) but I consider Manc's to be our biggest rivals, but over the last few years I've developed a real hatred of Everton. A few years back during a game where the Kop held up a mosaic saying "thank you" for their support over Hillsborough, they started singing that Manc "Always the victim" song about Hillsborough, and I just thought "you absolute cu*ts!" I have zero respect for them now and hope only the worst for them!

Your hardcore for sure. But we generally refer to Chelsea as the Plastics after they dished out plastic flags to their fans. Plus the fact that Abramovich, their Russian owner, started his career making and selling plastic toys and general plastic crap.

But it's great we have support over the pond. I'm going to New York from here in N.Ireland late March. Going to wear all my LFC stuff all over the City.

Top 4 looking more assured after Chelsea lost to M.City today. They play Crystal Palace next week. At home, whilst we destroy M.United. Great season so far with Mo Salah having a great first season. Coping well with the loss of Coutinho. Andy Robinson having a great first season as well. A great buy from Hull City and a great spot by our scouts.

Good luck, enjoy the rest of the season.

The NYC Liverpool supporters club is the biggest in the the US. They have a good site at www.lfcny.org

 I went a few times and its loaded with the hardest Reds in the US. The United matches are the biggest draws and due to the time difference the Pub opens early and serves breakfast. They have 2 pubs in Manhattan. Some in the other boroughs and 1 in Jersey. The 11th st pub and The Grafton which is a few blocks from 11th st. are the 2 best. Their both in the Village and its an amazing atmosphere filled with ex-pats and lifetime Reds supporters. The best matches are the usual...Mancs, Chelsea, Everton, Arsenal and the European Cup matches which start here around 3pm right at happy hour and it gets f***in' wild. Especially if the rival supporters try to get in.... you wont be disappointed.

Beating Everton will probably always provide the most enjoyment in the weeks/months after a game but I'd imagine if you don't live in Liverpool it's unlikely you work or socialise with other Evertonians so not just USA but I'd imagine most other fans around the world - they class United as the biggest rivals.

Precisely. The feeling was the same in Brazil. I always loved beating Everton of course, but my hatred was always towards United above any other team.

However after living in Liverpool for one year, that changed slightly. I was amazed at how bitter and obsessed they are and thus the Merseyside derby win I watched at Anfield (3-1) was the most enjoyable LFC home match I've attended so far.

The NYC Liverpool supporters club is the biggest in the the US. They have a good site at www.lfcny.org

 I went a few times and its loaded with the hardest Reds in the US. The United matches are the biggest draws and due to the time difference the Pub opens early and serves breakfast. They have 2 pubs in Manhattan. Some in the other boroughs and 1 in Jersey. The 11th st pub and The Grafton which is a few blocks from 11th st. are the 2 best. Their both in the Village and its an amazing atmosphere filled with ex-pats and lifetime Reds supporters. The best matches are the usual...Mancs, Chelsea, Everton, Arsenal and the European Cup matches which start here around 3pm right at happy hour and it gets f***in' wild. Especially if the rival supporters try to get in.... you wont be disappointed.

I’ll be at 11th Street Bar for the game on Saturday

The NYC Liverpool supporters club is the biggest in the the US. They have a good site at www.lfcny.org

 I went a few times and its loaded with the hardest Reds in the US. The United matches are the biggest draws and due to the time difference the Pub opens early and serves breakfast. They have 2 pubs in Manhattan. Some in the other boroughs and 1 in Jersey. The 11th st pub and The Grafton which is a few blocks from 11th st. are the 2 best. Their both in the Village and its an amazing atmosphere filled with ex-pats and lifetime Reds supporters. The best matches are the usual...Mancs, Chelsea, Everton, Arsenal and the European Cup matches which start here around 3pm right at happy hour and it gets f***in' wild. Especially if the rival supporters try to get in.... you wont be disappointed.

My bro-in-law always goes to Carragher's Bar in NYC when he's in NY, he says the craic in there is brilliant with loads of scousers on match days.

Precisely. The feeling was the same in Brazil. I always loved beating Everton of course, but my hatred was always towards United above any other team.

However after living in Liverpool for one year, that changed slightly. I was amazed at how bitter and obsessed they are and thus the Merseyside derby win I watched at Anfield (3-1) was the most enjoyable LFC home match I've attended so far.

Completely off topic, but always wondered what you were doing in Liverpool Diego? Studying? Very nearly went to study there myself before my old man pulled the plug on the whole thing (it was that or go study and live with my gran; the student life suddenly didn’t appeal so much )

You'll get a lot of posers who seem desperate to prove their supporter bona fides, and that can make viewing at a bar rather unenjoyable. The LFC club in my town is pretty decent in comparison, despite that I usually watch at home.

I can't change the fact that I was born in America and thus didn't have a natural-born interest in an English club (my mother's family are from Scotland and apparently supported Rangers, but even that fact I only learned about later in life when I developed an interest in football), but my own interest in the club has been cultivated over the past 20 years since my first visit to Anfield. At some point I quit worrying about whether someone from UK thinks my support of the club is legitimate. I'll never have some of the childhood and cultural experiences that you are privileged to have shared with loved ones over the years, but I know supporting this team is the thing I think about when I am not occupied with work or family (and sometimes even then).

The OP is correct that Man United was the ascendant team as the game became popular over here, and thus the default team for many of those "fans" - but those fans' support tend to be a mile wide and an inch deep. I've seen it for Arsenal, City, Spurs and Chelsea as well in the last 5-10 years. I notice it with kids in UK as well though, ,or with Bayern Munich in  Germany - they support the club(s) who are near the top of the table. In the same way, you don't find many/any American supporters of Stoke City or Burnley.

 

I wasn't really questioning the legitimacy of the support more the idea that lfc supporters are better than others.We've got just as many fair weather glory boys as any club.And there are still a fair few grumpy expats that remember city when they were in the league 2 playoffs,so i can understand their chance at glory more than the 21 year old student c**t.Look if some tw*t walks in the pub wearing a united shirt i still F***ing bristle and tense up but ya know what ya gonna do,it's Boston not L4.

For us non-brit, non city-dwelling supporters, following your club can be a strangely solitary experience.

I watch most of the matches from home, and probably about 1/3 at my local Irish pub. I do have Reds-supporting friends, but if I'm honest, in public I feel a bit like a fish out of water if I wear anything associated with a football club; I'll likely have to explain my reason for supporting LFC, and that's a story neither unique nor very interesting. I just love my club. Love it so.

American fans who come in dripping with kit and scarves and hats send me looking the other way. It's probably got something to do with the fact that - I can't help it - every time I see someone walk through the door with a united shirt, I think: "global marketing triumphs again". This is unfair perhaps but there's little doubt that MU are the default club when someone here decides they like watching soccer. Also, they tend to be the most raucous and the most loud-mouthed, even though they're from Schenectady, New York, have never been to England, don't know anything about their club's history, and pronounce Scholes with a soft "ch".

A bit of a roundabout way of making a point here, but on the rare occasion I meet another American who supports Everton, I give them the benefit of the doubt. Everton are firmly outside of the modern marketing wonders of Arsenal, MU, City, Chelsea and to a lesser extent Spuds, and even though their supporters' behavior makes me sick at times, it is generally worth hearing out one of their American fans because they tend to have a more thorough appreciation for the game.

For us non-brit, non city-dwelling supporters, following your club can be a strangely solitary experience.

I watch most of the matches from home, and probably about 1/3 at my local Irish pub. I do have Reds-supporting friends, but if I'm honest, in public I feel a bit like a fish out of water if I wear anything associated with a football club; I'll likely have to explain my reason for supporting LFC, and that's a story neither unique nor very interesting. I just love my club. Love it so.

American fans who come in dripping with kit and scarves and hats send me looking the other way. It's probably got something to do with the fact that - I can't help it - every time I see someone walk through the door with a united shirt, I think: "global marketing triumphs again". This is unfair perhaps but there's little doubt that MU are the default club when someone here decides they like watching soccer. Also, they tend to be the most raucous and the most loud-mouthed, even though they're from Schenectady, New York, have never been to England, don't know anything about their club's history, and pronounce Scholes with a soft "ch".

A bit of a roundabout way of making a point here, but on the rare occasion I meet another American who supports Everton, I give them the benefit of the doubt. Everton are firmly outside of the modern marketing wonders of Arsenal, MU, City, Chelsea and to a lesser extent Spuds, and even though their supporters' behavior makes me sick at times, it is generally worth hearing out one of their American fans because they tend to have a more thorough appreciation for the game.

Agreed. I've noticed that the Reds here in the US are true supporters and follow the whole league. They know how relegation works and GD and draws and away goal aggregate, difference between Cup and League matches etc,etc.... A lot of the Mexican and Hispanic fans follow Madrid and Barcelona.  I NEVER  see BVB or Munich or PSG. I do see some Celtic but its in primarily large Irish areas like NYC, Boston and a lot in Atlanta and Savannah Ga. which has a huge Irish American population.

For us non-brit, non city-dwelling supporters, following your club can be a strangely solitary experience.

I watch most of the matches from home, and probably about 1/3 at my local Irish pub. I do have Reds-supporting friends, but if I'm honest, in public I feel a bit like a fish out of water if I wear anything associated with a football club; I'll likely have to explain my reason for supporting LFC, and that's a story neither unique nor very interesting. I just love my club. Love it so.

American fans who come in dripping with kit and scarves and hats send me looking the other way. It's probably got something to do with the fact that - I can't help it - every time I see someone walk through the door with a united shirt, I think: "global marketing triumphs again". This is unfair perhaps but there's little doubt that MU are the default club when someone here decides they like watching soccer. Also, they tend to be the most raucous and the most loud-mouthed, even though they're from Schenectady, New York, have never been to England, don't know anything about their club's history, and pronounce Scholes with a soft "ch".

A bit of a roundabout way of making a point here, but on the rare occasion I meet another American who supports Everton, I give them the benefit of the doubt. Everton are firmly outside of the modern marketing wonders of Arsenal, MU, City, Chelsea and to a lesser extent Spuds, and even though their supporters' behavior makes me sick at times, it is generally worth hearing out one of their American fans because they tend to have a more thorough appreciation for the game.

Mate, wear your colours with pride, educate those who ask you why, tell them of our history and of our successes, and of course our sad times,

You may not realise but our LFC family need you, we need you to spread the word so we have fans just like you in the future, so get your ass out there buddy on match days and show how proud you are to be part of the Liverpool FC family, wear our colours every opportunity you get, and tell those who ask that being a Red means ...
You'll Never Walk Alone !!

YNWA

Not in the States, but here in South Africa the biggest rivalry is most definitely LFC vs Man United. It gets hyped up for weeks on tv, paper and on radio. There will often be supporters clubs or even local pubs screening the live matches on their big screens to draw in crowds and the winners of the match usually have weeks of bragging rights. The loser inevitably has to deal with a barrage of memes some negative banter.
No other game is anticipated more, even El Classico doesnt get the same hype.

There's a reason Liverpool v Man Utd is one of the most watched sporting events in the world, but it doesn't split a city and families like the Merseyside derby.

Any game against the Mancs or Chelsea is big here in Aus. Plastics everywhere.

Was fun being in Liverpool when Everton got beat and we won against Palace couple years back. The walk back from Anfield to the city centre was as joyous as you could imagine Nothing like that here.

I avoid talking football with anyone here. Too much nonsense.

Completely off topic, but always wondered what you were doing in Liverpool Diego? Studying? Very nearly went to study there myself before my old man pulled the plug on the whole thing (it was that or go study and live with my gran; the student life suddenly didn’t appeal so much )

Hey mate, sorry only seen this now.

But yeah, I was studying, I did the MBA in Football Industries at the University of Liverpool. I loved the city and more generally the country. Truly the only downside about living there was the miserable weather, but the summer, or what they refer to as summer - that part of the year where you see the sun a bit more frequently - was really enjoyable. And all my short trips to Manchester always reminded me the weather could be a lot worse.

I would have stayed if I could, but I was there with a scholarship and could not stay in the country afterwards. Maybe if I have the chance I will get back there one day.

 

I wasn't really questioning the legitimacy of the support more the idea that lfc supporters are better than others.We've got just as many fair weather glory boys as any club.And there are still a fair few grumpy expats that remember city when they were in the league 2 playoffs,so i can understand their chance at glory more than the 21 year old student c**t.Look if some tw*t walks in the pub wearing a united shirt i still f**king bristle and tense up but ya know what ya gonna do,it's Boston not L4.

I didn't think you were, I'm just chiming in from my own experiences at "soccer bars" in the U.S. I used to watch Rangers vs Celtic at a bar in DC where expat supporters from both sides were there (think IRA vs. UVF - not a pretty sight). This was in the 90s and one side wisely found another place to watch.

The City fans I'm talking about have know idea who Paul Dickov or Georgi Kinkladze were. They just saw a team that bought every top player in sight and decided that was who they like.

United are our biggest rivals.
The Ev is as big a game as United is to scousers yes.
In terms of rivalry though, Everton don’t come close and haven’t since the 80’s.
In terms of trophies and histories of the two cities etc...Liverpool v United is probably the biggest rivalry in world football.

Mate, wear your colours with pride, educate those who ask you why, tell them of our history and of our successes, and of course our sad times,

You may not realise but our LFC family need you, we need you to spread the word so we have fans just like you in the future, so get your ass out there buddy on match days and show how proud you are to be part of the Liverpool FC family, wear our colours every opportunity you get, and tell those who ask that being a Red means ...
You'll Never Walk Alone !!

YNWA

You're right.

Last year on April 1st my wife and I walked the twenty minutes from our airbnb to Anfield, all the while teaching her the words to "you'll never walk alone". We were lucky enough to get hooked up with tickets by virtue of a poster on this community, and we stood in the kop together, sang the songs, and watched LFC 3-1 Everton. I'll never forget that day; it makes the hair stand up on my neck.

By the way I wore the track jacket my wife bought me at the club shop out to the pub to watch us beat Newcastle

Precisely. The feeling was the same in Brazil. I always loved beating Everton of course, but my hatred was always towards United above any other team.

However after living in Liverpool for one year, that changed slightly. I was amazed at how bitter and obsessed they are and thus the Merseyside derby win I watched at Anfield (3-1) was the most enjoyable LFC home match I've attended so far.

I'm not surprised by how obsessed they are, they genuinely think they're on a war footing against us. The fact is beyond Liverpool itself, they have few fans and barely register on our radar. Their fans sign up to a life of obsession, depression and frustration over us, while we're more concerned about competing against the mancs, city, and other clubs at our level.

They remind me of 1860 Munich fans, whose raison d'etre is anti-Bayern Munich. Similiar to Everton outside Liverpool, they are an irrelevance outside Munich, and Bayern fans just laugh at them.

This is a nice topic.

Not an American too (Lebanese), but I remember growing up in Beirut and most Lebanese/arabs didn't really take interest in the premier league but mostly in the La Liga and Seria A. We have a huge football culture that and basketball. However the biggest English Lebanese supporters were Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd, then after 2004 we had a growing number of Chelsea supporters. I remember back in university in 2006 encountering new Chelsea fans who are not really into the game but because they support Mourinho  . They lack a lot in football and history of premier league teams.

I would say the most cringe worthy Lebanese football supporters are the Manc ones. Absolutely detest them and their condescending arrogance. They think they know better than anyone in football and they are so obsessed with us it's ridiculous. This is why to me it's always going to be the Mancs.

I would say and without bias , LFC and Arsenal supporters in Beirut are the most knowledgeable and we do respect each other.

The Official LFC supporters group in Beirut is not as big as the NY one but the games in one of the pubs the supporters is always lively and we had a special visit from Luis Garcia last season which was great!


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Born and bred scouser and man united to me is (and always will be) the biggest rivalry.

Growing up as a kid Everton didn't bother me one bit. They were more successful in the derbies when i was younger too. I remember thinking they were a bit of a bogey team for us in the 90s and it wasn't until Houllier came along that beating them just became normal again.

I have as many blue mates as I do red mates and my mums family are all blue too. So that probably has something to do with it.

Man United though I can't begin to explain the hatred I have for them. I think any violence or any football hooliganism is just pure stupidity but when we play them my blood boils that much I want to punch all their fans in the f**king head.

I can't stand their supporters and then you had their dick head players like Neville and Beckham. Both have turned out and come across now as alright blokes but in their playing days f**king hell i wanted to run on the pitch and punch them two as well. Fergusons a horrible tw*t too.

I've seen fights between both sets of supporters before and we've all heard their chants regarding the 96. Ill always hate them no matter what.

Like somebody above has already mentioned, it's only been recently where I've grown a hatred towards Everton too. It's not as strong as the one I have for United but I can't stand them now. Going 23 years without a trophy has really turned them into a bitter and twisted lot. Their fans are so petty and they're so deluded. Liverpools failure is now their success.

I don't mind a bit of banter, I encourage it, but after a season were they spent millions in the summer, telling the world what they were going to do, repeatedly saying reds heads had fell off, to being in a relegation battle all season and appointing a manager who is only known for keeping teams up and drinking shots of gravy....you'd think they'd keep quiet until next season but no, mark my words, if we miss out on top 4 or get knocked out of the CL they'll have the biggest party they've ever seen.

I agree with the above poster too in that their chants have angered me as well. When you call them out on it they deny it's anything to do with hillsborough but openly admit/accept that it's about heysel. I've got no time for any set of supporters who sing or chant about any tragedy and that includes any of our own (Munich for example).

Maybe I'm being naive or biased but whenever I've heard a liverpool fan stoop to those kind of levels I can honestly hand on heart say it's only ever been one or two. But when united or Everton go to those levels they sing and chant in their thousands.  Got no time for either of them. Horrible f**king cu*ts the pair of them.

The only other team I share that kind of hatred for is Chelsea for the same sort of reasons. Their fans are up there for being the most vile of the lot. We have a lot of recent history with them with the European ties when Rafa faced Jose etc.

Rambled on a bit here but point of my post is it'll always be United who are the biggest rivalry and who I hate the most in my eyes. Everton and Chelsea are closely behind though.

This is a nice topic.

Not an American too (Lebanese), but I remember growing up in Beirut and most Lebanese/arabs didn't really take interest in the premier league but mostly in the La Liga and Seria A. We have a huge football culture that and basketball. However the biggest English Lebanese supporters were Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd, then after 2004 we had a growing number of Chelsea supporters. I remember back in university in 2006 encountering new Chelsea fans who are not really into the game but because they support Mourinho  . They lack a lot in football and history of premier league teams.

I would say the most cringe worthy Lebanese football supporters are the Manc ones. Absolutely detest them and their condescending arrogance. They think they know better than anyone in football and they are so obsessed with us it's ridiculous. This is why to me it's always going to be the Mancs.

I would say and without bias , LFC and Arsenal supporters in Beirut are the most knowledgeable and we do respect each other.

The Official LFC supporters group in Beirut is not as big as the NY one but the games in one of the pubs the supporters is always lively and we had a special visit from Luis Garcia last season which was great!


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That's a good turn out,no? I'd imagine the supporters pubs are gonna be chocka tomorrow,i'll be watching at home.

Born and bred scouser and man united to me is (and always will be) the biggest rivalry.

Growing up as a kid Everton didn't bother me one bit. They were more successful in the derbies when i was younger too. I remember thinking they were a bit of a bogey team for us in the 90s and it wasn't until Houllier came along that beating them just became normal again.

I have as many blue mates as I do red mates and my mums family are all blue too. So that probably has something to do with it.

Man United though I can't begin to explain the hatred I have for them. I think any violence or any football hooliganism is just pure stupidity but when we play them my blood boils that much I want to punch all their fans in the f**king head.

I can't stand their supporters and then you had their dick head players like Neville and Beckham. Both have turned out and come across now as alright blokes but in their playing days f**king hell i wanted to run on the pitch and punch them two as well. Fergusons a horrible tw*t too.

I've seen fights between both sets of supporters before and we've all heard their chants regarding the 96. Ill always hate them no matter what.

Like somebody above has already mentioned, it's only been recently where I've grown a hatred towards Everton too. It's not as strong as the one I have for United but I can't stand them now. Going 23 years without a trophy has really turned them into a bitter and twisted lot. Their fans are so petty and they're so deluded. Liverpools failure is now their success.

I don't mind a bit of banter, I encourage it, but after a season were they spent millions in the summer, telling the world what they were going to do, repeatedly saying reds heads had fell off, to being in a relegation battle all season and appointing a manager who is only known for keeping teams up and drinking shots of gravy....you'd think they'd keep quiet until next season but no, mark my words, if we miss out on top 4 or get knocked out of the CL they'll have the biggest party they've ever seen.

I agree with the above poster too in that their chants have angered me as well. When you call them out on it they deny it's anything to do with hillsborough but openly admit/accept that it's about heysel. I've got no time for any set of supporters who sing or chant about any tragedy and that includes any of our own (Munich for example).

Maybe I'm being naive or biased but whenever I've heard a liverpool fan stoop to those kind of levels I can honestly hand on heart say it's only ever been one or two. But when united or Everton go to those levels they sing and chant in their thousands.  Got no time for either of them. Horrible f**king cu*ts the pair of them.

The only other team I share that kind of hatred for is Chelsea for the same sort of reasons. Their fans are up there for being the most vile of the lot. We have a lot of recent history with them with the European ties when Rafa faced Jose etc.

Rambled on a bit here but point of my post is it'll always be United who are the biggest rivalry and who I hate the most in my eyes. Everton and Chelsea are closely behind though.

I HATED Ferguson. He's so pompous and conceited. He conveniently ignores the first 6 years where he was almost fired and his managerial skills were sh*t. The Academy saved Ferguson's career not his "brilliance".

I hate to admit it but, I kind of like Beckham. I think he helped establish MLS  and now Atlanta United sell out a 75k seat stadium every home match. I think the MLS is comparable to League 1 or the SPL for now. But his time in LA helped make Football in the US relevant.

So i mentioned this in another thread but it kinda got lost.I was checking out the lfcboston facebook page and there is a united fan  posting "Always the victims,never your fault",and he's not really been called on it,it hasn't been deleted.So does this pass for banter now? Is it ok if it's mates? What y'all think?

So i mentioned this in another thread but it kinda got lost.I was checking out the lfcboston facebook page and there is a united fan  posting "Always the victims,never your fault",and he's not really been called on it,it hasn't been deleted.So does this pass for banter now? Is it ok if it's mates? What y'all think?

Of course it is not banter, it is pure filth comment. I am sure you know it is not banter and looking for some reaction, we all know what comments happen and if you see it, you can report it under "hate speech", which is what I would do rather than bring it to this forum.

Of course it is not banter, it is pure filth comment. I am sure you know it is not banter and looking for some reaction, we all know what comments happen and if you see it, you can report it under "hate speech", which is what I would do rather than bring it to this forum.

 

Jesus lad,course i was looking for some reaction it's a discusion forum, that's what we do,no? If i had a united friend say that he'd be gone, was asking what other americans who may have united friends think?