Trending Topics

      Next match: LFC v Man Utd [Premier League] Sun 16th Dec @ 4:00 pm - Pre Match Topic
      Anfield

      Today is the 15th of December and on this date LFC's match record is P23 W13 D5 L5

      4th place now

      Read 1618 times
      0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
      LFC PAUL
      • Forum Jari Litmanen
      • *
      • Started Topic

      • 49 posts |
      4th place now
      Mar 11, 2018 05:49:53 pm
      Spurs win so we've dropped again, looking closer than last week our CL spot, anyone concerned or not yet?
      fields of anny rd
      • Forum Legend - Paisley
      • *****

      • 12,250 posts | 969 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #1: Mar 11, 2018 05:56:38 pm
      We should finish top 4. My bet is third, depends on us really but also Spurs. Kane went off injured so if hes out lets see what they're made of.

      We need a reaction ourselves again now.
      Harrisimo
      • Forum Legend - Benitez
      • *****

      • 1,773 posts | 228 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #2: Mar 11, 2018 07:10:44 pm
      Spurs win so we've dropped again, looking closer than last week our CL spot, anyone concerned or not yet?

      No need for panic as we are still 4 points clear of Chelsea and we still have to play them. We also have an easy to medium run in. Chelsea are the ones who should be worried.
      Ribapuru
      • Forum Legend - Dalglish
      • *****

      • 9,778 posts | 1070 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #3: Mar 11, 2018 07:13:57 pm
      No need for panic as we are still 4 points clear of Chelsea and we still have to play them. We also have an easy to medium run in. Chelsea are the ones who should be worried.
      Chelsea and Spurs have to play each other too.
      5timesacharm
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 4,409 posts | 897 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #4: Mar 11, 2018 07:17:24 pm
      We should finish top 4. My bet is third, depends on us really but also Spurs. Kane went off injured so if hes out lets see what they're made of.

      We need a reaction ourselves again now.

      Speak for yourself, I'm still thinking 2nd and a Champions League winners medal ;)
      LondonRed83
      • Forum Legend - Dalglish
      • *****

      • 7,651 posts | 758 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #5: Mar 11, 2018 07:24:49 pm
      I’m worried but the boys did the business last year in similar circumstances and I know they can do it again.
      saille29
      • Forum Roger Hunt
      • ***

      • 507 posts | 23 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #6: Mar 11, 2018 08:02:08 pm
      I think we play twice before manure and spuds in the league so a chance to get points on the board (Watford H & Palace A) spuds next game is chelski so points dropped either way, just gotta take care of our own agenda. Put 6 points in the bank sit back and relax
      Billy1
      • Forum Legend - Dalglish
      • *****

      • 9,962 posts | 1400 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #7: Mar 11, 2018 08:51:48 pm
      Spurs win so we've dropped again, looking closer than last week our CL spot, anyone concerned or not yet?

      I thought we would be guaranteed entry into the champions league when we win the champions league this season.Okay we had a bad result playing Manure and a bad ref,it will not happen again.(this season)
      Diego LFC
      • Forum Legend - Paisley
      • *****

      • 18,405 posts | 1978 
      • Sempre Liverpool
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #8: Mar 11, 2018 09:22:43 pm
      I am fairly confident we will finish in the top 4 which is a decent enough performance from that squad. Hoping we can have some fun in Europe as well.

      Not terribly excited about finishing 4th or 3rd or even 2nd but a million points behind the leaders though, even if someone manages to find a random period of time to say we're actually in title winning form, or tells me right now that we've just had the best 5.3 weeks and 7 hours spell since 1962-63.
      Livershrew
      • Forum John Aldridge
      • **

      • 107 posts | 20 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #9: Mar 11, 2018 09:47:48 pm
      bar city away, uniteds fixtures look pretty tame, will be tough to catch them now.
      3rd will do me fine. champions league is dominating my mind now...
      7-King Kenny-7
      • Lives on Sesame Street
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 37,699 posts | 2613 
      • You'll Never Walk Alone!
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #10: Mar 12, 2018 04:12:03 am
      Ultimately not much difference between finishing 2nd, 3rd or 4th. Higher the better but all the top 4 go into group stages now so not the end of the world not getting 2nd. Would love to finish above the Mancs though.
      HamannsTheMan
      • Forum Legend - Benitez
      • *****

      • 2,284 posts | 1258 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #11: Mar 12, 2018 04:19:47 am
      Man U are so frustrating. Every time I watch them they're just f**king sh*te but they some how get the result. F**k knows how they're second with that many points because they really are dog sh*t. Even though we lost, we completely dominated the game on sat. Yes it's the result that matters at the end of the day but f**king hell, I don't know how they've gotten away with it all season. They are nailed on for top four now.

      Spurs, like us, keep surprising me. Whenever I expect them to drop points they don't. They just keep winning. I really like Spurs and how they play. They're the most entertaining team in the league behind us. I hope they get top four and I think they will.

      That means it's between us and Chelsea. We have the easier fixtures but I expect Barca to knock them out which could be a blessing in disguise. We have European distractions and they won't.

      Chelsea have also been awful this season from whenever I've seen them. We're a better team than them and we should finish above them. I'd fancy us to catch them if they were four points clear of us so the fact that we're four points ahead I'll be shocked if we f**k this up.

      It's in our hands and we should finish top four comfortably. I'm not worried.



      tomx
      • Forum Legend - Benitez
      • *****

      • 1,539 posts | 71 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #12: Mar 12, 2018 11:43:44 am
      We play 2 games now before Chelsea-Spurs match (this weekend they both play in fa cup).
      If we pull 2 wins against Wattford and Palace, we will make massive step into top4 finish. We would have 10 point diff against Chelsea and 5 points against Spurs and both playing each other :)
      heimdall
      • Forum Legend - Dalglish
      • *****

      • 7,194 posts | 1362 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #13: Mar 12, 2018 11:58:27 am
      Man U are so frustrating. Every time I watch them they're just f**king sh*te but they some how get the result. F**k knows how they're second with that many points because they really are dog sh*t. Even though we lost, we completely dominated the game on sat. Yes it's the result that matters at the end of the day but f**king hell, I don't know how they've gotten away with it all season. They are nailed on for top four now.

      Spurs, like us, keep surprising me. Whenever I expect them to drop points they don't. They just keep winning. I really like Spurs and how they play. They're the most entertaining team in the league behind us. I hope they get top four and I think they will.

      That means it's between us and Chelsea. We have the easier fixtures but I expect Barca to knock them out which could be a blessing in disguise. We have European distractions and they won't.

      Chelsea have also been awful this season from whenever I've seen them. We're a better team than them and we should finish above them. I'd fancy us to catch them if they were four points clear of us so the fact that we're four points ahead I'll be shocked if we f**k this up.

      It's in our hands and we should finish top four comfortably. I'm not worried.





      Sorry but we really did not dominate the game on Saturday, we had possession, especially in the second half, but we were not really threatening their goal at any point. It was one of those matches where we were 10-15% below par and they upped their game, it happens, move on.
      Plus also remember that they are a damned good team with excellent players, although they are quite negative tactically, but it seems to work for them.

      Anyway I still fancy us to be in top 4, no idea what position though, I'd love to be above Manure but I can't really see it happening now.
      Keith Singleton
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 4,737 posts | 410 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #14: Mar 12, 2018 03:50:29 pm
      Ultimately not much difference between finishing 2nd, 3rd or 4th. Higher the better but all the top 4 go into group stages now so not the end of the world not getting 2nd. Would love to finish above the Mancs though.

      It's only bragging rights nothing else. Give me 4th now and I'll jump at it. 2nd 3rd or 4th, it's all the same.
      HamannsTheMan
      • Forum Legend - Benitez
      • *****

      • 2,284 posts | 1258 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #15: Mar 12, 2018 03:57:43 pm
      Sorry but we really did not dominate the game on Saturday, we had possession, especially in the second half, but we were not really threatening their goal at any point. It was one of those matches where we were 10-15% below par and they upped their game, it happens, move on.
      Plus also remember that they are a damned good team with excellent players, although they are quite negative tactically, but it seems to work for them.

      Anyway I still fancy us to be in top 4, no idea what position though, I'd love to be above Manure but I can't really see it happening now.

      We still dominated the game though but I agree we lacked a cutting edge and we were a bit toothless in the final third. I mentioned this in my post match comments.

      It's the result that counts but we had 65% possession or something crazy like that (let's remember where the game was played) and we made double the passes they had. Think we had almost double the shots too.

      It was a frustrating afternoon for us. We were trying to walk the ball into the net at times and we had no plan B, or plan C, either.

      Regarding top four I'm pretty sure we will be sound. Chelsea are crap.
      tezmac
      • Forum Legend - Dalglish
      • *****

      • 6,118 posts | 134 
      • F**k the Sun F**k Murdoch F**k the press
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #16: Mar 12, 2018 04:02:30 pm
      We play 2 games now before Chelsea-Spurs match (this weekend they both play in fa cup).
      If we pull 2 wins against Wattford and Palace, we will make massive step into top4 finish. We would have 10 point diff against Chelsea and 5 points against Spurs and both playing each other :)

      Palace away not one of our happy hunting grounds....
      7-King Kenny-7
      • Lives on Sesame Street
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 37,699 posts | 2613 
      • You'll Never Walk Alone!
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #17: Mar 13, 2018 04:16:11 am
      It's only bragging rights nothing else. Give me 4th now and I'll jump at it. 2nd 3rd or 4th, it's all the same.

      Especially this season because regardless who finishes 2nd, they will still be a good 20 odd points behind City, which in truth is pretty embarrassing that the so called best league in the world, has such a run away winner, that’s the kind of margin you expect in the French league with PSG.
      zz19a
      • The Mighty REDS 19
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 3,148 posts | 114 
      • You'll Never Walk Alone
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #18: Mar 13, 2018 04:37:12 am
      We play 2 games now before Chelsea-Spurs match (this weekend they both play in fa cup).
      If we pull 2 wins against Wattford and Palace, we will make massive step into top4 finish. We would have 10 point diff against Chelsea and 5 points against Spurs and both playing each other :)

      It's only bragging rights nothing else. Give me 4th now and I'll jump at it. 2nd 3rd or 4th, it's all the same.

      Right on, just concentrate on our next game and win this

      Let them worry about their games in hand.  :aaliverpool2xt1: :kop5cf8koxp6:
      LondonRed83
      • Forum Legend - Dalglish
      • *****

      • 7,651 posts | 758 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #19: Mar 13, 2018 07:13:55 am
      We still dominated the game though but I agree we lacked a cutting edge and we were a bit toothless in the final third. I mentioned this in my post match comments.

      It's the result that counts but we had 65% possession or something crazy like that (let's remember where the game was played) and we made double the passes they had. Think we had almost double the shots too.

      It was a frustrating afternoon for us. We were trying to walk the ball into the net at times and we had no plan B, or plan C, either.

      Regarding top four I'm pretty sure we will be sound. Chelsea are crap.

      Missed Coutinho long range efforts big time. There were a few opportunities for AOC to strike from outside the box but he hesitated and passed to the wing.
      Keith Singleton
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 4,737 posts | 410 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #20: Mar 13, 2018 07:58:27 am
      Especially this season because regardless who finishes 2nd, they will still be a good 20 odd points behind City, which in truth is pretty embarrassing that the so called best league in the world, has such a run away winner, that’s the kind of margin you expect in the French league with PSG.


      I'm very much in agreement with you, the gap  between run away winners and the the ones making up the numbers...(( United - Liverpool - Spurs ))... Is very much a big concern. In reality can any of this year teams make up so much ground going into season 18/19??

      I can't see it myself sadly. United do have the resources better than Liverpool ( on paper ) and players that need to go are the following.
      Fellaini, Dirty b***ard and it's like watching him play in slow motion.
      Herrera, can't mix it with the best and just a average squad player,
       lindelof, worse buy of the season and not even good enough to be a bench warmer,
       Rojo, always injured,
      Smalling, not quite good enough to partner Bailly, 
       Blind, Darmian. Both average but bench warmers for me,

      Liverpool outs.
      Karius good enough for a No 2 so needs replacing.
      Ox Chamberlain. Just about makes the grade for a bench warmer and nothing else.
      Henderson, bit like Carrick and getting passed his sell by date along with Milner.
      Lovren, one of the worse players ever to grace a Livepool shirt. He'd be first gone if I was in charge.
      Mignolet, simply not good enough, sell and put funds towards a No 1
      Gomez doesn't make the grade, bench warmer at best.
      Moreno has the odd good game but very inconsistent.
      Klavan, no room for average player to take Liverpool forward.

      Obviously my comments are in a ideal world which isn't going to happen, we can all pipe dream though! Can't we?  ;D

      Get rid of the Above from both sides and replace with better players then it will be United & Liverpool 1st & 2nd ( in any order) along with the Champions league final United v Liverpool  ;D

      KEITH!! "Wake up" Keith! "Wake up"  :lmao:
      Scottbot
      • Forum Legend - Dalglish
      • *****

      • 6,968 posts | 1057 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #21: Mar 13, 2018 08:23:41 am
      A repeat of 2005 will do me. 5th place finish and a 6th Big Ears taaaaaa very much with the chavs missing out on CL as a result of the big win.
      MIRO
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 11,670 posts | 2313 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #22: Mar 13, 2018 09:10:08 am
      Speak for yourself, I'm still thinking 2nd and a Champions League winners medal ;)

      Oh Yes.                ;D
      hardcoresoldier
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 4,316 posts | 819 
      • The Liverpool Way is The Only Way
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #23: Mar 13, 2018 09:25:42 am
      Of those saying that 2nd, 3rd or 4th doesn't really matter. 3rd or above you are in the group stage proper, 4th means we have to go through the qualifying route.

      4th is not acceptable to me, on current form we should be aiming for 3rd at least. Saturday just gone could prove to be very costly. Those qualifying games early doors are games we could do without.
      HScRed1
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 13,544 posts | 2550 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #24: Mar 13, 2018 09:36:55 am
      Of those saying that 2nd, 3rd or 4th doesn't really matter. 3rd or above you are in the group stage proper, 4th means we have to go through the qualifying route.

      4th is not acceptable to me, on current form we should be aiming for 3rd at least. Saturday just gone could prove to be very costly. Those qualifying games early doors are games we could do without.

      There is no qualifying rounds next year for the Top 4 ranked countries in Europe, so makes no difference 2nd or 4th.
      hardcoresoldier
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 4,316 posts | 819 
      • The Liverpool Way is The Only Way
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #25: Mar 13, 2018 09:51:00 am
      There is no qualifying rounds next year for the Top 4 ranked countries in Europe, so makes no difference 2nd or 4th.

      Oh good. Thanks for that HScRed. Wasn't aware of this rule change.
      hardcoresoldier
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 4,316 posts | 819 
      • The Liverpool Way is The Only Way
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #26: Mar 13, 2018 10:05:53 am
      Just found it -

      Champions League and Europa League changes next season
      Tuesday 27 February 2018

      Qualifying for the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League from 2018/19 is evolving. We explain the new system, which includes an extra round.

      Qualifying for the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League is evolving from 2018/19. We explain the new system.

      Q&A: How the changes were made

      KEY CHANGES
      Twenty-six teams now gain direct entry to the UEFA Champions League group stage – including the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League winners – with six qualifying places available
      Every team eliminated in UEFA Champions League qualifying will get a second chance in the UEFA Europa League
      Seventeen teams now gain direct entry to the UEFA Europa League group stage, with ten teams directly transferring from the UEFA Champions League play-offs and third qualifying round plus 21 qualifying places in two different paths (UEFA Europa League champions and league paths)
      There will be a preliminary round in qualifying for the UEFA Champions League (played as a knockout mini-tournament) and UEFA Europa League (played as two-legged ties)
      There is no change to the formats from the group stage onwards but there will be staggered kick-offs – 18.55CET and 21.00CET – in the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Europa League
      Useful links: 2018/19 access list, 2016/17 UEFA association coefficient rankings
      UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
      Group stage
      There will now be 26 teams automatically qualified as per the access list drawn up from the UEFA association coefficients at the end of 2016/17.
      For 2018/19 they will be ...
      UEFA Champions League holders (1)
      UEFA Europa League holders (1)
      Top four from associations ranked 1st to 4th: Spain, Germany, England, Italy (16)
      Top two from associations ranked 5th and 6th: France, Russia (4)
      Champions of associations ranked 7th to 10th: Portugal, Ukraine, Belgium, Turkey (4)

      If the UEFA Champions League holders have qualified for the group stage via their domestic championship, the vacancy will be filled by the champions of the association ranked 11th (Czech Republic), who otherwise compete in the champions path
      If the UEFA Europa League holders have qualified for the group stage via their domestic championship, the vacancy will be filled by the third-placed club from the association ranked fifth (France), who otherwise compete in the league path
      An association may have a maximum of five teams in the group stage
      Qualifying
      As now there are two paths: the champions path and the league path. Teams enter as per the access list draw up from the UEFA association coefficients at the end of 2016/17.
      Champions route (four group places)
      This route consists of the champions of the associations ranked 11th and below, and now includes a preliminary round as well as three qualifying rounds and a play-off round:

      Preliminary round (played as knockout mini-tournament): four teams enter
      First qualifying round: 33 teams enter plus winner of preliminary round
      Second qualifying round: three teams enter plus 17 first qualifying round winners
      Third qualifying round: two teams enter plus ten second qualifying round winners
      Play-offs: two teams enter plus six third qualifying round winners
      All teams eliminated in the champions path between the preliminary round and the third qualifying round will be given a second chance to compete at European level by entering a new dedicated champions path of UEFA Europa League qualifying with staggered access according to round of elimination from the UEFA Champions League. Teams eliminated in champions path play-offs enter the UEFA Europa League group stage directly.

      League route (two group places)
      This route consists of the third-placed teams of the associations ranked fifth and sixth, and the runners-up of the associations ranked seventh to 15th. There are three rounds in all:

      Second qualifying round: six teams enter
      Third qualifying round: five teams enter plus three second qualifying round winners
      Play-offs: four third qualifying round winners
      All teams eliminated in the second qualifying round of the league path will be given a second chance to compete at European level by entering the third qualifying round of the UEFA Europa League league path. Teams eliminated in the league path third qualifying round and play-offs enter the UEFA Europa League group stage directly.

      UEFA EUROPA LEAGUE
      Group stage
      There will now be 17 teams automatically qualified as per the access list drawn up from the UEFA association coefficients at the end of 2016/17.
      For 2018/19 they will be ...
      Two teams from associations ranked 1st to 5th: Spain, Germany, England, Italy, France (10)
      One team from associations ranked 6th to 12th: Russia, Portugal, Ukraine, Belgium, Turkey, Czech Republic, Switzerland (7)

      Ten teams also enter the group stage direct from the UEFA Champions League: six teams eliminated in the league path (third qualifying round and play-offs) and four teams eliminated in the champions path play-offs.
      Qualifying
      From 2018/19 there will be two paths: the champions path and the league path. Teams enter as per the access list drawn up from the UEFA association coefficients at the end of 2016/17.
      Champions route (eight group places)
      This route consists of teams eliminated in the UEFA Champions League champions path between the preliminary round and the third qualifying round. There are three teams in all:

      Second qualifying round: 20 teams eliminated in UEFA Champions League preliminary round and first qualifying round
      Third qualifying round: ten teams eliminated in UEFA Champions League second qualifying round plus ten winners from UEFA Europa League champions path second qualifying round
      Play-offs: six teams eliminated in UEFA Champions League third  qualifying round plus ten winners from UEFA Europa League champions path third qualifying round
      League route (13 group places)
      This route consists of the remaining UEFA Europa League entrants from all 55 associations plus teams eliminated from the UEFA Champions League league path second qualifying round

      Preliminary round: 16 teams enter
      First qualifying round: 86 teams enter plus eight preliminary round winners
      Second qualifying round: 27 teams enter plus 47 first qualifying round winners
      Third qualifying round: 15 teams enter (including the three teams eliminated from the UEFA Champions League league path second qualifying round) plus 37 second qualifying round winners
      Play-offs: 26 third qualifying round winners
      MATCH CALENDARS
      2018/19 UEFA Champions League
      26 June: Preliminary round semi-finals
      29 June: Preliminary round final
      10/11 July: First qualifying round, first leg
      17/18 July: First qualifying round, second leg
      24/25 July: Second qualifying round, first leg
      31 July/1 August: Second qualifying round, second leg
      7/8 August: Third qualifying round, first leg
      14 August: Third qualifying round, second leg
      21/22 August: Play-off round, first leg
      28/29 August: Play-off round, second leg

      18/19 September: Group stage, matchday one
      2/3 October: Group stage, matchday two
      23/24 October: Group stage, matchday three
      6/7 November: Group stage, matchday four
      27/28 November: Group stage, matchday five
      11/12 December: Group stage, matchday six

      12/13/19/20 February: Round of 16, first leg
      5/6/12/13 March: Round of 16, second leg
      9/10 April: Quarter-finals, first leg
      16/17 April: Quarter-finals, second leg
      30 April/1 May: Semi-finals, first leg
      7/8 May: Semi-finals, second leg

      Saturday 1 June: Final – Estadio Metropolitano,Madrid


      Click Here For Article



      « Last Edit: Mar 13, 2018 10:14:07 am by hardcoresoldier »
      David Wright
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 2,802 posts | 140 
      Re: 4th place now
      Reply #27: Mar 13, 2018 10:23:09 am
      The above article, plenty to take in there !

      Quick Reply