Carragher filmed spitting after United game

Who's been defending it, not seen anyone say this is okay.

Hardcore on here. And in particular Twitter is full of it, have a look.

He was bang out of order but raging ? Get a life ! If evra did that to a scouser they would still be looking for bits of him. Up there with the story about people being outraged about putting jam on before cream on a scone. He fu**ed up, get over it , this moral outrage over everything really gets on my tits

Usually I'd agree but if I saw a bloke in the street spit at a young kid I wouldn't just walk past and ignore it believe me.

This isn't a F***ing conversation about F***ing gender neutrals or some sh*t, it's about a bloke who has recently retired at liverpool making 700+ appearances for the club spitting in a young girls face.

'This moral outrage over everything really gets on my tits'.  Well I hope you don't kick off if somebody spits at your kid then. You'd be a hypocrite if you do wouldn't you?

Yes i am a gobs***e, i am what you think i am. You don't even know me but feel free to judge, you are nothing to me and your comments make me laugh.

I am not a road rage lunatic but if you ask me would i be angry if i saw a parent texting or filming on a mobile phone while driving a vehicle with their children in, would i be angry?

Yes, i would.

If that makes me a road rage lunatic then yes i am, by your definition of course.

Thank you for your insight, it has enlightened me greatly and i will be sure to pass your insight onto many others you paragon of virtue you.

Hey keep digging that hole pal, its just getting deeper and deeper and deeper with every post.

Hang on weren't you the person who was also defending Flanagan for hitting his girlfriend, I guess in that case it was the "silly tart's" fault or some other charming phrase you used!

Who's been defending it, not seen anyone say this is okay.

Check out the pundits thread, some lovely posts by Hardcore soldier.

Danish TV sacked him, next up will be Sky no doubt.

Usually I'd agree but if I saw a bloke in the street spit at a young kid I wouldn't just walk past and ignore it believe me.

This isn't a f**king conversation about f**king gender neutrals or some sh*t, it's about a bloke who has recently retired at liverpool making 700+ appearances for the club spitting in a young girls face.

'This moral outrage over everything really gets on my tits'.  Well I hope you don't kick off if somebody spits at your kid then. You'd be a hypocrite if you do wouldn't you?

I Don't have any kids, and i am sure his intention wasn't to spit in the kids face deliberately so the distinction is there, i suggest strongly that you f**k off and get a life you sanctimonious pile of excrement.

You clearly know little about me because I am far from politically correct. Search a few of my posts.

Couldn't agree more that the person filming is a knobhead who is clearly more interested in winding carragher up than driving home safely. But I find it baffling how you can criticise him so heavily but ignore the fact carragher takes his eyes off the road, looks at him, leans out of his window and spits aggressively in his direction. He's hardly a driving instructor himself, is he.

If carragher went as far as spitting at the blokes daughter then I have no doubt he would have happily had a fight with him infront of his daughter too. He went to extremely low levels and showed he is a massive gobs***e tbh.

He should be sacked because a man in his position shouldn't behave in such a way. What sort of example is he setting? What sort of role model is he? He disgraced Sky, and he disgraced LFC.

Yes I am for real. I'm not excusing the bloke for filming while driving but I'm prettt sure carragher frightened that girl much more. Treating her to a football match would be a small consolation.

If Wayne Rooney or Patrice evra or Roy Keane or any other manc take your pick spat at one of our fans I'd be outraged and disgusted. I'd want to go and find them myself and f**king batter them.  I'd accept the liverpool fan was a tit but spitting is far worse.

I can't actually believe you're defending this behaviour. Seriously some of our fans see absolutely no wrong in anything liverpool related do they? This super fan thing really is a load of bollocks. I'm a scouser and only a few days ago I wrote on this forum how much I hate united but that from carragher is vile and disgusting. God help the guy who spits at me one day believe me.

Now I don't intend to trade insults with you or discuss this much further. On football related topics I enjoy your posts and you're one of the best on this forum in my opinion. But for me, this is just inexcusable from carragher and it sickens me seeing anyone try and defend it.

You clearly know little about me because I am far from politically correct. Search a few of my posts.

The whole point of my response to this situation is that Carragher is just driving home minding his own business.



Couldn't agree more that the person filming is a knobhead who is clearly more interested in winding carragher up than driving home safely. But I find it baffling how you can criticise him so heavily but ignore the fact carragher takes his eyes off the road, looks at him, leans out of his window and spits aggressively in his direction. He's hardly a driving instructor himself, is he.

Why does Carragher take his eyes off the road? He is distracted by the w**ker shouting at him from a vehicle travelling side by side with him. The said w**ker then winds his window to wind him up even further. Carragher then winds his window down so he can hear what he is saying, as far as Carragher is aware he could have been trying to warn him of something being wrong with his vehicle, flat tyre or something.


If carragher went as far as spitting at the blokes daughter then I have no doubt he would have happily had a fight with him infront of his daughter too. He went to extremely low levels and showed he is a massive gobs***e tbh.

He spat at the car in a split second. We all have a fight or flight mechanism, fighters will always react in an aggressive manner, flyers will always choose not to react and diffuse. That's just his genetic build up.




He should be sacked because a man in his position shouldn't behave in such a way. What sort of example is he setting? What sort of role model is he? He disgraced Sky, and he disgraced LFC.

He reacted to an idiot shouting at him for no other reason than to wind him up. Disgraced Sky? Sky are a disgrace anyway, hardly paragons of virtue are they?



Yes I am for real. I'm not excusing the bloke for filming while driving but I'm prettt sure carragher frightened that girl much more. Treating her to a football match would be a small consolation.

I agree that he scared her daughter and she should definitely be compensated but in your original post you said that the whole family should be rewarded and a donation made to charity. Please bear in mind that the little girl clearly tells her father to stop but her father ignores her request and carries on baiting and filming while driving a vehicle. It is he who should be making a donation to charity, hopefully he should lose his driving license now anyway.




If Wayne Rooney or Patrice evra or Roy Keane or any other manc take your pick spat at one of our fans I'd be outraged and disgusted. I'd want to go and find them myself and f**king batter them.  I'd accept the liverpool fan was a tit but spitting is far worse.

Let's be objective and honest here, if you are going to wind someone up then you should expect a reaction, especially if the person doesn't actually know you. Banter is banter when your target audience know who you are, if you are a stranger then banter can often be misinterpreted as insulting behaviour. Surely you can accept this?



I can't actually believe you're defending this behaviour. Seriously some of our fans see absolutely no wrong in anything liverpool related do they? This super fan thing really is a load of bollocks. I'm a scouser and only a few days ago I wrote on this forum how much I hate united but that from carragher is vile and disgusting. God help the guy who spits at me one day believe me.

The reason i am defending Carra is that situation was totally borne out of the desire of a bit of fame by a terrible father who clearly valued the cost of his chance at being recognised over the safety of his own daughter and those around him. It is immaterial whether you are a Scouser or not here. While spitting is not acceptable in any form of society, if you wind a complete stranger up then you will never ever know how they are going to react, will you?


 

Now I don't intend to trade insults with you or discuss this much further. On football related topics I enjoy your posts and you're one of the best on this forum in my opinion. But for me, this is just inexcusable from carragher and it sickens me seeing anyone try and defend it.

Neither do i wish to trade insults, i am purely putting my point across, being a father before a Liverpool supporter foremost. If you have taken my comments personally then i apologise as that was never my intention.

This is the way i am looking at it.

Carragher is driving home minding his own business.

w**ker shouts at Carra while fiming him on his phone whilst driving a vehicle with his daughter in it.

Daughter (clearly scared) asks her father to stop.

Father ignores his daughter's request (fuelling her anxiety and apprehension) and winds window down to give further abuse.

Carragher opens window, realises he is abusing him and snaps, reacts by spitting at car.

Carragher then shows impeccable restraint at traffic lights and remains in vehicle, despite every fibre of his being telling him to get out of the vehicle and batter the c**t.

I have not once said it is acceptable to spit at anybody. If that w**ker had listened to his daughter then none of this would have happened. My anger at this situation is that Carragher was not the instigator here.

I Don't have any kids, and i am sure his intention wasn't to spit in the kids face deliberately so the distinction is there, i suggest strongly that you f**k off and get a life you sanctimonious pile of excrement.

Well your mother then. You absolute gobs***e.

Hopefully carragher spits at you when you drive past him saying Jamie Jamie I love you stop and hug and give me a picture.

It's obviously fine with you if he does.

I Don't have any kids, and i am sure his intention wasn't to spit in the kids face deliberately so the distinction is there, i suggest strongly that you f**k off and get a life you sanctimonious pile of excrement.

Your comments seem to explain why you don't have any kids. Spitting is disgusting, and anybody who doesn't condemn it is equally as disgusting.

Well your mother then. You absolute gobs***e.

Hopefully carragher spits at you when you drive past him saying Jamie Jamie I love you stop and hug and give me a picture.

It's obviously fine with you if he does.

Oh give it a rest, i said he was absolutely out of order,what do want, carragher to be flogged, beaten, waterboarded ? My mum is dead by the way. If someone deliberately spat at someone like that it would be worse but seriously you need to calm down and stop getting your panties in a twist

Your comments seem to explain why you don't have any kids. Spitting is disgusting, and anybody who doesn't condemn it is equally as disgusting.

I condemned him if you could be arsed to read

I Don't have any kids, and i am sure his intention wasn't to spit in the kids face deliberately so the distinction is there

I actually agree with Fat, I don't think his intentions were to spit on the kid, more so at the man or the car, but unfortunately, his saliva landed on the girl. Carra said he didn't see the kid, and I choose to believe that. However, disgusting regardless of whether the girl was there or not, and rightly so in getting the sack and sh*t from people.

You clearly know little about me because I am far from politically correct. Search a few of my posts.

The whole point of my response to this situation is that Carragher is just driving home minding his own business.



Couldn't agree more that the person filming is a knobhead who is clearly more interested in winding carragher up than driving home safely. But I find it baffling how you can criticise him so heavily but ignore the fact carragher takes his eyes off the road, looks at him, leans out of his window and spits aggressively in his direction. He's hardly a driving instructor himself, is he.

Why does Carragher take his eyes off the road? He is distracted by the w**ker shouting at him from a vehicle travelling side by side with him. The said w**ker then winds his window to wind him up even further. Carragher then winds his window down so he can hear what he is saying, as far as Carragher is aware he could have been trying to warn him of something being wrong with his vehicle, flat tyre or something.


If carragher went as far as spitting at the blokes daughter then I have no doubt he would have happily had a fight with him infront of his daughter too. He went to extremely low levels and showed he is a massive gobs***e tbh.

He spat at the car in a split second. We all have a fight or flight mechanism, fighters will always react in an aggressive manner, flyers will always choose not to react and diffuse. That's just his genetic build up.




He should be sacked because a man in his position shouldn't behave in such a way. What sort of example is he setting? What sort of role model is he? He disgraced Sky, and he disgraced LFC.

He reacted to an idiot shouting at him for no other reason than to wind him up. Disgraced Sky? Sky are a disgrace anyway, hardly paragons of virtue are they?



Yes I am for real. I'm not excusing the bloke for filming while driving but I'm prettt sure carragher frightened that girl much more. Treating her to a football match would be a small consolation.

I agree that he scared her daughter and she should definitely be compensated but in your original post you said that the whole family should be rewarded and a donation made to charity. Please bear in mind that the little girl clearly tells her father to stop but her father ignores her request and carries on baiting and filming while driving a vehicle. It is he who should be making a donation to charity, hopefully he should lose his driving license now anyway.




If Wayne Rooney or Patrice evra or Roy Keane or any other manc take your pick spat at one of our fans I'd be outraged and disgusted. I'd want to go and find them myself and f**king batter them.  I'd accept the liverpool fan was a tit but spitting is far worse.

Let's be objective and honest here, if you are going to wind someone up then you should expect a reaction, especially if the person doesn't actually know you. Banter is banter when your target audience know who you are, if you are a stranger then banter can often be misinterpreted as insulting behaviour. Surely you can accept this?



I can't actually believe you're defending this behaviour. Seriously some of our fans see absolutely no wrong in anything liverpool related do they? This super fan thing really is a load of bollocks. I'm a scouser and only a few days ago I wrote on this forum how much I hate united but that from carragher is vile and disgusting. God help the guy who spits at me one day believe me.

The reason i am defending Carra is that situation was totally borne out of the desire of a bit of fame by a terrible father who clearly valued the cost of his chance at being recognised over the safety of his own daughter and those around him. It is immaterial whether you are a Scouser or not here. While spitting is not acceptable in any form of society, if you wind a complete stranger up then you will never ever know how they are going to react, will you?


 

Now I don't intend to trade insults with you or discuss this much further. On football related topics I enjoy your posts and you're one of the best on this forum in my opinion. But for me, this is just inexcusable from carragher and it sickens me seeing anyone try and defend it.

Neither do i wish to trade insults, i am purely putting my point across, being a father before a Liverpool supporter foremost. If you have taken my comments personally then i apologise as that was never my intention.

This is the way i am looking at it.

Carragher is driving home minding his own business.

W**ker shouts at Carra while fiming him on his phone whilst driving a vehicle with his daughter in it.

Daughter (clearly scared) asks her father to stop.

Father ignores his daughter's request (fuelling her anxiety and apprehension) and winds window down to give further abuse.

Carragher opens window, realises he is abusing him and snaps, reacts by spitting at car.

Carragher then shows impeccable restraint at traffic lights and remains in vehicle, despite every fibre of his being telling him to get out of the vehicle and batter the c**t.

I have not once said it is acceptable to spit at anybody. If that w**ker had listened to his daughter then none of this would have happened. My anger at this situation is that Carragher was not the instigator here.

Are you on a wind up here, you cannot be serious with your comments. You see the person saying, not shouting, to Carra 2-1 as being the bad guy and Carra as the good guy for restraining himself from swerving his car into the other one and then dragging the father out and smashing his head in in front of his child???  If you are being serious then you need some urgent anger management therapy and probably putting on some kind of list for hyper aggressive autistic level of empathy psycho nutters.

Cara endangered himself and other drivers much more by his actions than the one doing the filming and I'd be fairly surprised if the police don't have a little word with him.

Shouldn't have done it.

He's hurt nobody but himself and I guess we'll find out if his value to Sky is greater than the embarrassment and offense caused by this.

I see we have two threads going on about this now, and both are devolving into Reds vs. Reds. Always hate to see that.

And that's the end of my interest in what he did. Bring on the football.

Hey keep digging that hole pal, its just getting deeper and deeper and deeper with every post.

Hang on weren't you the person who was also defending Flanagan for hitting his girlfriend, I guess in that case it was the "silly tart's" fault or some other charming phrase you used!

Hello heimdall.

Here is that post you were quoting, oh hang on you didn't quote it obviously as you don't possess the intelligence to check what you say before you post -

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The Kop / Re: Flanagan charged with assault
« on: Jan 02, 2018 06:49:36 pm »
I used to like Flanno.

A sad story indeed, hopefully he can get help with his issues but i can't see his employment continuing here. Have no desire to lambast the boy as i have no idea exactly what happened or why.


That was my only post on that matter, please check my post history to confirm this. Please be very careful what you post as comments like that can be very damaging to make, as i said you don't know me.

I clearly state i am disappointed with Flanno but i have no desire to lambast the boy until i have established exactly what he did and why he did it. Also bear in mind that at the time of this post that he hadn't actually been charged so the full details of the assault were not in the public domain, hence my reluctance to comment on the matter.

So to be clear, i suggest you find the poster who did use that charming phrase and vilify the aforementioned poster. An apology would be nice but i wouldn't expect one from you anyway.

Posters like you are very dangerous, imagine spreading lies like that in your local community and tarnishing the name of an innocent person? Like i said, check your facts before posting, make a bit more of an effort and it will stop you spinning webs of lies and deceit.

Please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't that make you the gobs***e?

Carra's out of order for spitting, but the manc dickhead's behaviour is also wrong, obviously something got said before this happened, plus looks like he's filming from his phone while driving and weirdly delighted he's got a reaction from Carragher!!

One thing that's certain, if i had a kid and someone spat in their face deliberately or not my first thought wouldn't be 'how much can i sell this to a paper for' but then even during terrorist attacks people's first instict seems to be reach for the camera

Who cares mate, really.

I don't know why as liverpool fans we can never take blame or accept criticism. It's so cringe at times.

You wonder why other fans sing always the victim. Even carraghers tweet says 'I was out of order BUT I was provoked' or words to that effect.

I don't care if some silly manc is on his phone while driving. He's not the first nor the last driver to do that. I care more about our club legend spitting at children and embarrassing the club. And I'm getting a bit F***ing sick and tired of these players and ex players dragging our club through the sh*t.

Would love to know what that manc said to get that reaction!!

Just saying.

Jesus F***ing Christ! What kind of a pussy f**king world are we living in? I've just watched the f**king video, all those slagging Carra off need to have a f**king word with themselves!

Fact 1: He spat at the car not the girl.

Fact 2: The scabby Manc c**t exploited a highly volatile situation while endangering the safety of his daughter.

Fact 3: He is very lucky Carra didn't block him up and get out of the car and batter him.

Right then -

Let's look at this objectively -

- Jamie is driving home and is obviously extremely upset at the result and weak showing from our side at Old Trafford. He is extremely angry and probably on the edge of a breakdown.

- Scabby Manc supporter whilst in control of a moving vehicle (while carrying his daughter in vehicle) starts filming Carragher and winding him up.

- To further exaggerate the situation he winds the window down and continues with the wind up, while still filming Carragher while he is in control of a moving vehicle (with his own daughter in vehicle), endangering the life of his daughter, pedestrians and other road users.

- Carragher spits at the car, the f**king car, it is not his intention to spit at the girl at all. The only reason some spit lands on her (no actual proof of this in the video) is because the responsible father (who clearly values the safety of his daughter over his own self gratification and chance of slight fame (sarcasm intended) has wound his window down to shout at Carragher. I highly doubt that any person could spit a distance of 3-4 metres at a speed in excess of 30 mph given the turbulence created by the moving vehicle. How often have you spat out of your window and had it all over the side of your car / van?

- His daughter tells him to stop it but he continues to wind Carragher up with no concern for his daughter's warning.

- Watch the video fully, it is raining, the windscreen wipers are on, the odds are in the favour of the fluid landing on her being rain water landing on her from the throw off from the wipers onto the A pillar and the fact the window is fully open while the vehicle is travelling at speed.


I have had a f**king gutsful of people jumping on Carra at every chance they get. The man is a legend, a f**king legend. Has he done bad things in his life? Yes he has. Haven't we all?


My primary cause for concern in all this is that not one poster has gone after the father who has endangered the life of his daughter to try and claim a bit of fame (the sad c**t). There was every possibility that this situation could have ended violently, he could have been battered in front of his own daughter. This c**t could have killed a pedestrian while filming, he could have killed his daughter, he could have killed himself (done the world a favour) or killed another road user, he could also have caused Carra to kill a pedestrian, himself or another road user by inciting a possibly violent situation for nothing.

This c**t is a father, it is his duty to protect his child/children at all times. Do you think his wife is going to pat him on the back when he gets home? There is no stronger bond than a mother and child, does anybody on this forum think his wife will congratulate him on his minute amount of fame while endangering her daughter's life?

And to those saying that people use their phones while driving all the time? Shame on you. Go and say that to all the families who go to counselling meetings to come to terms with losing their loved ones. A friend of mine was killed in 2007 when he was thrown from his bike in a collision with a woman who was texting her friend while crossing a dual carriageway. My friend died and the slag got a 2 year ban and a £250 fine. She should die.

Please feel free to come and pass on your comments to his mother and father, i'm sure they will welcome them.

I'm with Carra on this one, all the f**king way. Thankfully he didn't get out of the car and beat the c**t to death.

You shaking the hand of the fella who spits at your 14 year old son/daughter then? Not even as if it's bad verbal getting given out.

I'd love to stick up for him but with this? Na, scum bag behaviour.

I am not even close to agreeing with you on this one, mate.

Check out the pundits thread, some lovely posts by Hardcore soldier.

Thank You Kind Sir 

I'd love to find an excuse for Carra's reaction but he's left himself wide open with his reaction...

I don't think it warrants loosing his job over...

Kirsty Gallacher got done for drink driving & Sky kept her job, Why should Carra loose his?...

Carra's out of order for spitting, but the manc dickhead's behaviour is also wrong, obviously something got said before this happened, plus looks like he's filming from his phone while driving and weirdly delighted he's got a reaction from Carragher!!

His sole intention was to make Carragher snap. And he did. Why is anyone surprised at this? This is Carra, he's hardly a shrinking violet.

I can only pray that one good thing comes of this - that that advert where the girl does the Loser sign at Jürgen while she drives past the coach gets dropped from TV. Don't think Nivea, or whoever it is, will want the association of her getting a faceful of gob.

Carra may have done us all a favour if he takes that down with him. F**k I hate that advert.