Top four or reach the final?

Interested to gauge people's opinions.  Only reason I ask is I saw us, what I think, drop two points against Everton and I'm wondering what effect reaching the semi final is now going to have on our league performances.

So, you can be guaranteed reaching the European Cup final or finishing in the top four?

Which one would you take.

European Cup final

European cup final!

Interested to gauge people's opinions.  Only reason I ask is I saw us, what I think, drop two points against Everton and I'm wondering what effect reaching the semi final is now going to have on our league performances.

So, you can be guaranteed reaching the European Cup final or finishing in the top four?

Which one would you take.

I think we will easily reach Top 4 have you seen the state of Chelsea and our next 3 opponents.

CL it's written in the stars!

Cup Final

Main reason is we'd really have to screw it up to blow Top 4 now. Need 8 points with GD huge advantage. And thats IF Chavs run the table.

Bournmouth
@ West Brom
Stoke
Brighton

Even with a loss @ Chelsea , 8 pts against those teams with 3 at Home.  No problem ))

In my mind were already top 4. The champions league is now bonus territory.

Don’t see us getting out of the top 4, but if I had to choose between both: CL final.

Yah I am tired of having to make a choice to give up this to get that...I want them both.

Gamblers the lot of you!

European Cup Final ... & winning it.

European Cup final

There's no trophies for finishing fourth or third

Interested to gauge people's opinions.  Only reason I ask is I saw us, what I think, drop two points against Everton and I'm wondering what effect reaching the semi final is now going to have on our league performances.

So, you can be guaranteed reaching the European Cup final or finishing in the top four?

Which one would you take.

It's a worthwhile conversation topic for sure, but I think after Chelsea dropping points to West Ham, it's not really the choice before us. I think now we can rotate the squad in a couple of league matches with even less of a fear or repercussion.

The chance to win the Champions League outright or qualify for next seasons competition. It’s a no brainer!

I’m confident we will not have to choose and achieve both!

Top Four ...... but short of the roof falling in we are there.

I'm a greedy c**t, I want both but also to win the Final. Number 6 Baby!

Top 4 is almost secured, it's not like we are the ones chasing it. What final ? We'll win it lads, mark my words.

European Cup Final ... & winning it.

Hahahaha

If we win the CL

Assuming arse win the Europa. The 4th team will get kick out of CL.

Correct? Max 5 teams per nation.

A big if

That poll makes no sense.

Surely you want top four to be in a position to play in a Champions League Final. So why would anyone choose not getting to the final if given the choice.

Sorry but I  believe we can finish in the top four and not only reach the Champions League Final but win it as well. GO THE MIGHTY REDS.

Hahahaha

If we win the CL

Assuming arse win the Europa. The 4th team will get kick out of CL.

Correct? Max 5 teams per nation.

A big if

Yeah motivation to put Spurs into 4th. Sure Arsenal would like that.

Hahahaha

If we win the CL

Assuming arse win the Europa. The 4th team will get kick out of CL.

Correct? Max 5 teams per nation.

A big if

Imagine that team is United. The perfect result.

European Cup final.

Without a second thought as well.

Hahahaha

If we win the CL

Assuming arse win the Europa. The 4th team will get kick out of CL.

Correct? Max 5 teams per nation.

A big if

The Arse has Atletico, if they avoid Atletico in the semis though ... it might be possible for them to win it.

The chance to win it or the chance to qualify for it?

Easy as piss.

Off to Kiev we go!

I don't take anything for granted anymore especially in football. There are no gaurentees that we will get to the final, there are no guarantees that we will stay in the top 4, ok it would be a total melt down if we didn't get top 4 now but we have to be consistantly reaching this competition every year, not one year in 3 or 4 years out like we have been doing. Yes it would be fantastic to get to the final and win it and I believe in this squad and manager to do that. We have a great chance but let's take one game at a time. I remember the europa league final and all my mates saying that the way we were playing at that time that we were a shoe in to win it especially after that dortmund game and look what happened there. If we do get to the final and win then it's a fantastic achievement but we have to go out and win it first and that's going to be difficult, like it will be for any of the other teams. That's why I voted for top 4 because we need to be in this competition every year for financial and competitive reasons. The glory days are coming back, I'm sure of that with our current manager and for that to happen we need the finance to improve this squad to take us to that top level that the other teams that reach this competition every year do. We've done it 5 times before we can do it again and possibly get another 5 but to do that we need to be in the competition in the first place.

If we can only have 1 then top 4 to be able to attract the best players but in all reality top 4 is almost as certain for us as winning the league is for Citeh. Both could miss out but it would take an almighty f**k up.

Anyway CL, I think if we can get to final then we'll win and at the moment we have every chance.

99.99% chance of top four and 100% chance of final. I'll take that.

You'd probably see a few more votes for the "Guaranteed Top 4" option if we were currently sat in 5th or 6th. 

At this moment, we're going to be a really attractive option for top level talent this summer.  Players will see the exciting, attacking footie that we are playing and they will want to be a part of it.  However, if we failed to secure a CL spot, some of those players might opt for other destinations. 

The ultimate goal is to win trophies, so the easy response is to vote for a 1-off game where we could secure the biggest prize in club footie.  However, we are only about 4 top level players away from being able to genuinely compete for Prem and CL glory on a consistent basis.  If we dropped out of the CL for the 18/19 season, we may not be able to recruit the level of player necessary to make that final step up. 

At the end of the day, we are almost a lock for a top 4 spot so we should be able to fully commit to our European Cup run.  Whether we make the final or not, it's been an incredible run and we are finally getting back to where we belong -- among the elite clubs in England and Europe.  City ran away with the league this term, but I'm confident that next season we will make a genuine run at it. 

Win the next 3 and we seal top4! The semi final is sandwiched between the bottom 2 clubs, West Brom away and Stoke home. So they are gonna fight tooth and nail for their life, although the Baggies are actually gone. The likes of Solanke, Ings, Woodburn, Clyne, Moreno and half of our 'CL-XI' would be rotated for these games. Think 9 points is gettable and still be fit enough for both legs of the semi final!

You'd probably see a few more votes for the "Guaranteed Top 4" option if we were currently sat in 5th or 6th.   

Maybe but not from me mate.

I'd take a place in the final over a top four finish every day of the week.

Both please, both very attainable so let's go for it

Maybe but not from me mate.

I'd take a place in the final over a top four finish every day of the week.

Question:  What is more important to help us achieve our long term goal of building a team capable of winning silverware annually?

Making it to the CL final, but losing. 

OR

Finishing top 4 and qualifying for the group stage for next season. 

To be transparent -- I voted for "A Place in the Final" in the original poll.  However, if we take a long term view, it is critical for us to qualify again next year in order to be able to recruit elite level players and continue to build on the foundation that Klopp has established.  Obviously, winning the final would give us automatic qualification AND an even greater appeal to the members of the elite talent pool that Klopp needs to dip into.  But if I was going to pick an answer to the question that I posed, my answer would be top 4. 

Follow up questions:  Would Salah have joined last summer if we hadn't been in the CL?  Would we be where we are (in the CL semifinals) without him?  How much better could we be with another few players of his ilk?

I'd rather get to the Supercup Final, then top 4 isn't an issue.... If you get my drift.

Watching Madrid celebrate the way they did with that soft penalty. I can’t wait to knock these cu*ts out !

Watching Madrid celebrate the way they did with that soft penalty. I can’t wait to knock these cu*ts out !

Oliver that quality premier league ref!
No wonder we have no refs at the world cup

Oliver that quality premier league ref!
No wonder we have no refs at the world cup

Not everyone here is English ! Don’t include me in that group. Canada doesn’t even qualify for world cups 🙈

Not everyone here is English ! Don’t include me in that group. Canada doesn’t even qualify for world cups 🙈

Apologies, any of your refs at the world cup ?

The chance to make history. Or the chance to qualify.
Is this a serious question?
Arsenal qualified for it for 20 odd years straight and look at them now.
Even if it meant we never won the final and missed out next season I would still take the final every single day of the week. Chances like these don’t come round very often no matter how good a team or what you spend or what calibre of player you buy. PSG and City being prime examples

What a stupid poll. Why be in it if you can't win it?

The whole point of making top 4, is that we qualify and compete for the European Cup. It's not much of a recruiting tool if we're only buying 4 new players per year.

We will make top 4 fairly comfortably anyway, so I don't think we need to choose.

I want it all as a big club's fan.

Question:  What is more important to help us achieve our long term goal of building a team capable of winning silverware annually?

Making it to the CL final, but losing. 

OR

Finishing top 4 and qualifying for the group stage for next season. 

To be transparent -- I voted for "A Place in the Final" in the original poll.  However, if we take a long term view, it is critical for us to qualify again next year in order to be able to recruit elite level players and continue to build on the foundation that Klopp has established.  Obviously, winning the final would give us automatic qualification AND an even greater appeal to the members of the elite talent pool that Klopp needs to dip into.  But if I was going to pick an answer to the question that I posed, my answer would be top 4. 

Follow up questions:  Would Salah have joined last summer if we hadn't been in the CL?  Would we be where we are (in the CL semifinals) without him?  How much better could we be with another few players of his ilk?

On the flipside though what if we qualified every season like Arsenal used to and never got anywhere with it?

I do get your point mate but for me football is all about winning and I'd gamble on getting a place in the final, with a one game chance of winning, than a guaranteed top four every time without question.

Nice to reach the final, having said that not so nice to lose the final. Already almost guaranteed top four finish, bar huge slump in form. Do not think that I will bother to vote.

The chance to make history. Or the chance to qualify.
Is this a serious question?
Arsenal qualified for it for 20 odd years straight and look at them now.
Even if it meant we never won the final and missed out next season I would still take the final every single day of the week. Chances like these don’t come round very often no matter how good a team or what you spend or what calibre of player you buy. PSG and City being prime examples

Seems to come round fairly regularly for Real Madrid and Bayern ;-)

This will be the type of question management has for the players. For allocating the bonus pot when there's limited bonuses. :Lmao:

"We're running low on bonuses. Would you like to be paid for top four or winning the semi finals?"

Why not both?

To the eight "fans" who voted top four, all I can do is laugh!

What is the point in qualifying for the Champions League if your aim is to just keep qualifying and not winning!

Are ye Arsenal fans in disguise???

To the eight "fans" who voted top four, all I can do is laugh!

What is the point in qualifying for the Champions League if your aim is to just keep qualifying and not winning!

Are ye Arsenal fans in disguise???

I'm not one of the 8, but how can you not understand the logic?  Look at it from the perspective of -- what would be more damaging to our long term goals?  Failing to win the CL final, or failing to qualify for the CL next season?  Failing to win the final would neither help nor hurt us.  Failing to qualify could be catastrophic as it would cripple our appeal to transfer targets and strengthen the appeal of one of our rivals (Chelsea). 

If we want to sign players who are being recruited by other teams like Bayern, Madrid, City, and Barca, then we have to be able to offer them the opportunity to consistently play in the CL. 

Winning the final obviously trumps all, but if we are trying to solidify our status as annual trophy contenders (both domestically and on the continent) then we need to be playing in the CL every year.

Sorry, not playing. We're finishing 2nd with a European Cup to our name, and over the next ten years this will be our worst season.

F**k that! I want my cake and eat it!

Sorry, not playing. We're finishing 2nd with a European Cup to our name, and over the next ten years this will be our worst season.

Can't wait to see you change your Username to 6timesacharm.

F**k that! I want my cake and eat it!

Now we all know who you are..... Yaya :O

F**k that! I want my cake and eat it!

I have Donuts and Cheese cake. I am going to eat a Donut right now.
A real question would be, would we trade places with City, guaranteed league title or Semi Final in CL and top four?   

To the eight "fans" who voted top four, all I can do is laugh!

What is the point in qualifying for the Champions League if your aim is to just keep qualifying and not winning!

Are ye Arsenal fans in disguise???

Perhaps they are the club's accountants.

So we're in the final without a guarantee of top four. Thanks a lot... 

Decent result for us with Brighton beating the man said tonight. It means they won't be scrapping for their lives come the last game of the season should we be in need of a result to secure top 4.

Decent result for us with Brighton beating the man said tonight. It means they won't be scrapping for their lives come the last game of the season should we be in need of a result to secure top 4.

Is it too late to sneak 2nd place?

United would need 1 point from 6 while we need 6/6. Would love to finish above that lot; even though it’s not as big to us as it is to them this season, seeing as we have bigger fish to fry.

Is it too late to sneak 2nd place?

United would need 1 point from 6 while we need 6/6. Would love to finish above that lot; even though it’s not as big to us as it is to them this season, seeing as we have bigger fish to fry.

After stopping PMSL at their result I thought the same!

Done.

Both, baby!